Ootober 23, 1944, Mr. Clarence Hoff, Manager, Municipal Auditorium, Kansas Cityy Mo. Dear Mr. Hoff: I am enclosing a carbon copy of a letter I have just written Reaves Peters, which I am sure is self- explanatory. ae Sincerely yours, { Director of Physical Education, | Ens. Varsity Basketball Coach. September 27, 1944. My. Cleenan Hoff, et : ails i. ad, fy , Hl - fy i wi [ni | i i | Hh ie + i ihe if iy | ih nit I sibs addi iF Wi tht He i is a si i uit Gi} ryt | ain aE Hl We cf in if ij iy i - PLE Bes ‘d rf ip yf 3 ul: hits i ani ie } i : As $3 aan al wh an Sete iuimiyyeretye Very cimeerely yours, ae varsity tas Conetie October 25, 1944. Mr. Harold Reade, Coach, Shawnee-Mission Rural High School, Merrian, Kansas. Dear Harold: We are playing Rockhurst College in the Mumicipal Auditorium on Tuesday, December 12. If agresable to you, as it is to Rockhurst, we would like to match your school with Rockhurst High as the preliminary game. We also have some games on the 22nd and 23rd of December. If you would be interested in one of those games we would be glad to have you pick your opponent - maybe Ward High er anyone that you think would draw well. Congratulations on your fine football game against Lawrence. I saw it, and it was a dandy. You certainly shuffled your ~~ in an intelligent style. With all good wishes, I am Sincerely yours, | Director of Physical Bducation FCA:AH Varsity Basketball Coach. — November 2, 1944. We have finally completed our schedule for the double headers in Kansas City on December 22 and 25. We had had a date with Colorado on the 25rd, ob: to come on the 23rd, and that necessitated our asking | ty if he could come on the 22nd. If Frosty could not have made this change we hoped to get you on one the 22nd, and we are plenning on Nebraska on the 25rd. I am sorry that we could not have included you in our schedule. 2 , Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education, PCA: AH Varsity Basketball coach. Qotober 31, 1944. Mr. cliff Rook, Basketball Coach, Denver University, Denver, Colorado. Dear Cliff: I am sorry that I have been unable to give you a definite reply to your wire about the Decerber 22nd date. I have been ewaiting a reply from one other school, and have wired them today asking for their decision. I dislike to keep you waiting, and will let you know as soon as possible. - Sineerely yours, Director of Physical Education, PCA:AH Varsity Basketball Coach. WESTERN UNION 4:45 Pelle October 26. Dr. Forrest C. Allen. Can we play on the December 22nd date that you mentioned? Wire us immediately. Cliff Rock, Basketball Coach, University of Denver. Reply: Cannot give definite informatian until Monday. Date still uncertain. Forrest C. Allen. Pe Ree rere | CLASs,OF SERVICE \ \ J E 5 EB RN eS A20E SYMBOLS qatis is a pe | DL =Day Letter elegram or Cable- iil gram unless its de- 7 Lif 50 Nis Night dette ferred character is in- ) LC =Deferred Cable dicated by a suitable symbol above or pre- NLT =Cable Nighe Letter ceding the address. A. N. WILLIAMS A Ship Radiogram PRES! DENT The filing time oer in the date line on telegrams and day letters is STANDARD TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is STANDARD TIME at point of destination KAZ112 17 3 EXTRASDENVER COLO 26 258P DR FORREST C ALLENS ~ Se. BASKET BALL COACH UNIV OF KANSAS PAS OCT 56 py az ?CAN WE PLAY ON THE DECEMB ER POND DATE THAT YOU MENTIONED WIRE US fMMEDI ATELY a CLIFF ROCKBASKET BALL COACH UNIV OF DENVER ig eee THE COMPANY WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESTIONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICE Getober 20, 1944. ave | Gee ee Dear clise: We have set up some ganen in the Municipal huditoriun in Kansas City for December 22 and 23 with Missouri, Kensas State and ~ Kansas playing double headers each night, and have arranged for the I i ‘University of Colorado to some in on Saturday night, December 23. We could probably use you on Priday night, the 22nd, but have a offered the date to deorge Pepperdine College. | If anything should happen that Pepperdine cannot cone | 4 in an that dato, could you play on the 22nd? I believe this one game aoe would draw better with Missouri, Kansas State and Kansas, than your games with Kansas State, Washburn and Rockhurst. 4 I am sorry that we did not hear from you earlier be- La eause we could have doubtless used you both Friday ani Saturday nights. The arrangement that we have is that each team shall pay their ow ox~ | penses and the eut will be four ways after the rental of the hall is taken care of. It has always been our experience with Kensas and Missouri playing in a foursome that they have done exceptionally wll and I re ee Maan eee in for a good cut. Think it over and let ime know your reaction. i ‘ \ Sincerely yours, 7 : Sirewtes of ovina WE ae fo FOr FCAAH Varsity Basketball Coach. i eee - sevvn — gare weMReepeTT covey | prnecsa: co 20, 1944, | LPIVE Je QAeL eG Tos we Jaro Lom, Lewogyowe erg peyyess wyy femm wonzy some 7x tor w Eoog ong | ! aresomy bywhywe yw o Lomeocwe gpup syeh prac com exoeberovesys ay ne me Gena Gey BO Opa. bap pum ihe hae & Te : ase oornes Cees apay ems genes” peepee ong yoommmes Rel mong Qian pepees ay sy Wraton.7* yevawe geepe mq yee’ spew hom — we neat oak ones Sa ‘ytbouaras emer Soon CELOhOF #90 qeee #9 genie satiate poe f onyg buopapya mee Aon ow purge wzene* gre ByrG" mig puss eengeeraeyh ST o% gayeneqo fo some pu ow avemge’ wytpp* peeompex gg muewe byvhyu® qonpre pergere oway vyfyp* wg prac muwuTeg You _ 4 yo Eww @ ork %o% peoenper § Bowed 2 Boag pete noses —_ - o Y October 19, 1944. Mr. Beret Fe Shelton, Untveruity of Wyoming, — Laramie | : » Wyoming. Dear Ev: I am afraid we are in a little difficulty with your game. Bruce Drake called me and when I told him that Kansas did not want to play on the 16th and 16th, because it would be too difficult to arrange games when Oklahoma did not want to pley Kansas or any other conference members, he said, “Well, I will take it over, then, and *. wade arrange it.” So I have turned over the dates to hime Sin iearay tens ine: weeds Ma play Abed SON. eal: le ma want to play on the 15th. The fact that we are playing Rockhurst College in Kansas City on December 12th, and then playing again on December 22 and 23, prompted me to the opinion that should we go in on the 15th and 16th it would appear to our Big Six brothers that Kansas was overdoing The Bannan Gity date angle. I was endeavor ing to arrange a schedule for the four dates, December 15 and 16, and 22 and 23, because I promised the coaches of the Big Six that we would keep these dates open and the Auditorium has been ho] them, so I felt to keep faith with everybody we should arrange the schedule for these dates. But now since Bruee has taken it over, you doubtless will hear from him. For our 22nd and 23rd dates we have tentatively scheduled Frosty for the 23rd and we are looking for someone for the 22nd. Perhaps Wyoming and Kansas oan get together in Kansas City in a pair of games next year or where four college tears are playing.. I thank you for your kind expressions, and I assure you I am definitely interested in building the game of basketball. While every individual normally looks to his own interests, yet he must be unselfish enough to allow the other fellow some latitude. - With all good wishes, I am Sincerely yours, _ Director of Physical Education, FOCA:AH . Varsity Basketball Coach. THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING LARAMIE, WYOMING October 14, 1944 Mr. Forrest C. Alien Varsity Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: Received your letter of October 12th about you thinking Kansas should not play in both double-headers, we are very muuch interested in Kansas pleying in the one on December 15th and 16th, we know that the best drawing basketball team in the country in Kansas City is Kansas, and that is one reason we wanted to take part in the games at that time, I am sure we will want to come on down and play the two games any way, but if Iowa-Saehawks can not play both nights why don’t you play as the fourth team the other night, but I am very strong for Kansas being in both games, if Bruce does not want to play bring Missouri in as the other team, I like to play my tough conference teams in a non-conference geme as I believe I would know something about them that would help me in that game that counts. Iba tells me Bruce is tough to get along with. We will leave every thing in your hands, and I believe you would like to play both week ends, and I am sure the basketball fans in Kansas City would rather see you in four games than any one else, why don't you ask McBride? With kindest personal reagrds, I am erett F. Shelton Basketball Coach Oetober 12, 1944. Mr. Everett F. Shelton, Basketball Coach, University of Wyoming, Laremie, Wyoming. Dear Ev: TI am sending you a oopy of a letter I have just written to Bruce Drake. Bruce doesn't want to play, as you kmow, where the Big Six teams are involved, whore his team would beat one of ours in a pre-conferenee game. I am suggesting a set-up that I think would be a wow and one that would draw e fine crowd. I am not sure that Bruce will went the two gemes, but I think it would be marvel- ous if Oklahoma, Arkansas, Wyoming and another strong team would come in for the foursome. We are endeavoring to arrange for Wyoming to play the two nights, and I am sure that we can do it. I will keep you informed as to the progress. | With all good wishes, I am Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Rdueation, | POAAH : Varsity Basketball Coach. THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING LARAMIE, WYOMING October 4, 1944 Mr. Forrest ¢. Allen Varsity Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Fhog: In reply to your letter of Sept. 50th, it would not maixe any difference to us whetner the game is on the 15th or 16th, but but we would much rather-play both nights, I believe we would make a lot more money as the travel will be the big expenme. We have to come back home after the games there, as the next week is exam week and we do not go east unfill Thrusday. I think we would be willing to figure as the other teams do, with no guarntee but on a four way cut, with the adjustment of exoenses pro rata. I am sure we will make out expenses and have a chance of making some money. It is too bad Bruce got started in the coaching game the way he did, I had just as goon play a conference team as on the same bill with them Are you making an eastern trip this year? age Everett F. Shelton Basketball Coach September 30, 1944. Mr. Everett F. Shelton, Basketball Coach, University of Wyoming, Laramis, Wyoming. Dear Ev: When we were in Kansas City at the Big Six meeting Bruce Drake and I agreed that we would try to arrange a foursome for December 16th, Bruce has @ game scheduled with the Iowa Seahmwks on the 16th, and we were looking for an opponent for Kansas on the same night. _ I have written Bruce along the lines of asking ‘him to consider the 16th and 16th, and I am writing you asking if you would be agreeable to coming to Kansas City for both nights. Bruce doesn't want to play any of the Big Six teams before the season opens and for that reason he is shying off of a fow'some for the 15th and 16th, but we do want to play ball with him and go along and schedule the 16th date. Could you come to Kansas City on December 16th if we could not arrenge for a foursome for the 15th and 16%h? Tt am wondering what you would consider fair for your cuarantee with an option. Since you are traveling or Bast you will wderstand that we are not trying to talk you out of anything, but the other teams competing Will be making the trip just to the gemes in Kansas City and return. Pere — haps you may want the same situation:to obtain as the other teams, namely that our expenses to and from the place are counted in the estimate and the gate receipts are out fou ways equally. But in that case there is no guarantee to any team. In the adjustment of expenses the pro rata traveling mileage is figured, and the hotel is figured for all at ao much per day, and then after the hall rental and officials' fees are taken out, the out is four ways. Would you let me hear from you regarding your desires? Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education, FCA: AH Varsity Basketball Coach. — \ E S ] E RN ~ Se This is a full-rate is ee Pay rete Telegram or Cable- NL=Nighe Letter yom unless its de- d character is in- { 7 6 }] pf LC=Deferred Cable dicated by a suitable symbol above or pre- NLT =Cable Night Letter eding the as = — A. N. WILLIAMS - Ship Radiogram PRESIDENT ‘The filing time shown in the date line on telegrams and day letters is STANDARD TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is STANDARD TIME at point of destination KAZ45 10=LARAMIE WYO 26 854A= a “Wee SPeo oe fie iO n FOREST C ALLEN= gah Ole 2S BASKETBALL COACH KANSAS UNIVER SITY BE HAPPY TO PLAY KANSAS DEC 19TH IN KANSAS CITY= EV SHELTON: TELEPHONED To__k 4g cme 1047. BY | ee THE COMPANY WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESTIONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICE THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING LARAMIE, WYOMING September <6, 1944 Mr. Forrest C. Alien Varsity Basxetovall Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phos: Received your letter of September 2Oth and wired you this morning accepting the game with Kansas on the Double-header, December 15th with Oklahoma and Iowa Pre-Flignt. Would you let me know the financial arrangement ior the gene, and about how much we can ecpect from the game. We should help draw in Kansas City although our team will be young as will the teams every place I expect. erett Ff. .Shelton Basketball Coach September 20, 1944. Mir. Everett Shelton, | Basketbell Coach, University of Vyoming, Laramio, Wyoming. Dear Ev: Tho University of Oklahoma and Iowa Pre-Flight are playing in Kansas City on December 15th. We were to play Okleshoma Aggies on that date, ——— = : I am wondering if you could play on the 15th in Kensas City. We might make arrangements for Kensas to play Yyoming, end Oklahoma play Iowa Pre-Flight. Let me know your reactione Very cordially yours, we Director of Physical Education, PCA: AH Varsity Basketball Coach. THE UNIVERSITY OF WYOMING LARAMIE , WYOMING Aagust 21, 1944 Mr. Phog Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: I have been corresponding with George Edwards of Missouri about playing on a double-header in Kansas City, on August 12th he wrote me from Kansas City giving me the possiblity of two dates, Dec. 15 and 16, and Dec. 22 and 23, The 22 and 23 would of been just right as we are on our way east at that time but I hada game scheduled with Michigan for the 23 and could not change: the date, we wanted to keep the game as we have been some time trying to get on the Big Ten schedule. George thought that the 15 and 16th would be too early to draw any kind of a crowd. There will only be five of our school in our sonference playing basketball so we are going to wait untill Oct. 7th to make out basket- ball schedule so if we can schedule any out side games we are to go ahead. I would like very much to come to Kansas City and take part in a double-header and we could do it any time after January 8th, just so we can decide on dates before our conference meeting, Jack Gopelend of the Wichita Beacon wants us to come in there and play and we could play both places onthe same trip. If you and George have an open date and can get the hall later we would like tery much to come to Kansas City to play on the same arrangements of Kansas, Kansas State, Washburn and Missouri had last year. Are you going to New York this year? We are playing in New York City on December 27th and Philadelphia Jan. 1st and Ohio on the way home. Iwent to tell you that John Buescher is one of the best boys I have ever had the pleasure to coach and he thinks the world of you. I am very sorry we could not come down the 22nd ahd 23rd of Dec. but if jyou can find any two dates later on, I expect the crowds would be better anyway, don't you think. Very trul ours o? Evefett F. Shelton Basketball Coach te, ruse Drake, ceanehie ao aa infin A a $3 4 “ 28 sda, iP ine a 5 wu rat i in i aggeasz Hit on ij fits au En ite AL Varaity Basketball Couche aH g © PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR MEN THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA NORMAN : OKLAHOMA October 5, 1944 Dr. Forrest C. Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Doc: In my previous letter to you, I stated that I was only interested in December 16. However, if we could get Everett Shelton to come in on the 15th, we might be able to get the Seahawks to change this date for us. I had rather go shead and take my licking from the Seahawks and let you schedule any team you like rather than try to schedule a game on the 16th myself. It is possible that Oklahoma University could play on the 15th and 16th providing we follow the double-header idea on both nights. I don't know who you have in mind on the 15th if Wyom- ing and Kansas get together. If you have some other Big Six school already engaged, you can count Oklahoma out on December 15. I re- ceived a letter from Reaves Peters saying that Arkansas would be a drawing card, due to the publicity received in their unfortunate accident prior to the N.C.A.A play-off. I am leaving your opponent to be selected, as it should be, by you, end if Shelton will not come in on the 16th and you have no other team in mind, I will be glad to come in and schedule some team other than the ones that would be in on the 16th. I am sorry I was unable to reach you by telephone yesterday, and under- stand that you left for Tulsa for your game with the professionals. Let me hear from you at your convenience, and whatever you decide will be perfectly satisfactory to me. Sincerely yours, ruce Drake Basketball Coach BD sng September SO, 1944. Mr. Bruce Drake, Basketball Coach, University of Oklahom., Norman, Oklahoma. Dear Bruce: Thanks for your good letter of the 27th instant. Great Lakes is not permitted to play in this territory because it is out of their domain. We had a game scheduléd with them last year and they were forced to cancel it. Go ahead and get Ohio State or anyone else to play you. I think it would be a fine thing, only the item of expense would doubtless take most. of the: profit, but I believe the drawing card would perhaps justify the long trip. You will understand we do not guarantee an outfit's expenses. Bach fellow is allowed his traveling expenses based on the equitable travel of all four teams, but perhaps Ohio State might want a guarantee when we play in Kansas City. As you kmow, each team is allowed their pro rata share of expenses in accordance with the distance traveled. And the hotel rates are, of course, equalized for all. We have never underwritten any _ expenses, so Ohio State might not desire to come. I would be gled if you would turn promoter inasmuch as I have run out of possibilities. Ev Shelton wants to come in on the 15th. He might be persuaded to come the 15th and 16th, and if we could get the Seahawks in for a couple of games then the only difficulty would be in getting your team for both nights. If you do not like this, Bruce, why don't you go ahead _and arrange an opponent for Oklahoma on the 16th, and we will play the Sea- hawks. ‘That will close up the 16th to your satisfaction as we previously agreed upon, and then if you do not like the idea of playing two games we will try to fill in for the 15th with some other foursome, as the hall is engaged for the 15th and 16th, and the 22nd and 25rd. Let me know at yow convenience. Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Hiucation, FCA :AH : Varsity Basketball Coach. INTE}:COLLEGIATE ATHLETICS THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA NORMAN - OKLAHOMA September 27, 1944 Doctor Forrest ©. Allen Basketball Coach © University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Doc: I am sorry that Hank Iba has a billing in Philadelphia on December 16. I know that this game would have been a wonderful drawing card after the four man trouble in Lawrence. The only game I am interested in is the one game on December 16 as we planned in Kansas City. I am at a loss to recommend any team with drawing=power to a man who has been in the game as long as you have; however, I would be more than glad to try to get Ohio State to come in and play me, provided you want the Seahawks. Personally I don't particularly care who Oklahoma plays on that particular night. I would just as soon play Great Lakes as the Sea- hawks or any other team that we might get to come in. You advise me which way you want me to go and I am sure that it will work out satisfactorily for Nordly. In short, if you are having trouble getting 4 reputable team and want me to see what I can do, it will be necessary for me to contact the team with the idea of playing them. If such is agreed, I would want it understood between you and I that the team scheduled would meet your satisfaction 100%. December 16 is the only possible date that I can play. I om sorry that Ev Shelton will be in the East at that time. Please let me know © what you want me to do on the matter, and I will be glad to cooperate in any way possible. Sincerely yours, 4 Bruce Drake Basketball Coach BD:ds September 27, 1944. Mr. Bruce Drake, Basketball Coach, University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma. Dear Bruce: Once I heard of a Dutohman. He was not named Hoff, but his name was Kloppf. He was to serve on the jury. He got so excited and mixed up, and he said, "Good-by, wifey, good=by. I got to leave my home in the country and go to Kansas City and serve on the jury. I know I am going to run over the car and kill somebody." It is queer, when these Dutch have things explained to them sometimes fairly clearly that they cannot get it. I went in to talk to Ralph Baker, and Hoff dropped in. I was going down to see Mr. Hoff later and explain to him, but I wanted the dates held. Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education, PCA: AH , Varsity Basketball Coach. Enc e | - Septerber 20, 1944. \ \ \ It PS \ wo | \ \ \ \ \\ J \ Mre Bruce Drake, ; j a Basketball Coach, - rs \ University of Oklahoma, — | \. Norman, Oklahoma. iV Dear Bruce: aa \ \ Hank Tha suggests that on Decenbor 16th he has a \ conflict calling for him to play in Philadelphia on that dates I am wondering if there is anyone thet you can sesame: that | would be a good drawing card. \ 4 : : Do you have in mind only one game iit: “isthe Had you thought of double-headers for the 1sth also? a George Edwards had talked to Hv Shelton about ploying in Kansas City on the 22nd and 25rd of Decenber, but Ev has dates in the Hast. Please let me know if you can dete out a foursane. Very cordially yours, Director of Physical Education, PGA :AH : Varsity Basketball Coach.