To All Big Six Schools

 

November 15, 1942.

Sports Publicity Director,
University of Missouri,
Columbia, Missouri.

Dear Sir:

Very sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Bducation,
POA:AH ° Varsity Basketball Coach.

 
   

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Mr. Gwinn Henry, “Athletic Director
University of Kansas
Lawrence » Kansas

Dear Gwinn:

Perhaps this letter is somewhat premature, However, I Wish

te aeaquasint you with some vertinent facts relative to the

.. feeilities we can previde for your bas ketva ll squad on
Mareh 4th,

.. Pirst, the PAXTON is win teens and newest hotel ine Oakes
It is located two blocks from the heart of the city, there-
\ fore, affording a more quiet atmosphere whieh is conducive

\to perfect rest. <All rooms have private bath and outside
ex pare . :

ie are gind fo provide twin bedded rooms, to be oseupied by
two persons, at special rates of $3. per day. of course,
these would be located high in the building. Sing le rooms
are from $2.75 daily. A two room suite, with twin beds, will
be reserved en a eomplimentary basis for the Coach and you.

ae you Will submit menus in duplicate we shall quote prices
on méals, Being experienced in handling athletic groups I ,
‘now that vegsiar menus are generally not accepted by sence

Tneidesta Ly, my actual experience in the athletic field

ev 3 many years, I maintain a membership in the American
Football Geaches Association. In view of my affiliation
with educational institutions, I can appreciate the problem
of expenge entailed in the completion of arrangements for
sontes te) away from home,

 
  

It is ay sincere hope that we shall be granted an opportunity.
to be Pieted ag your headquarters when you play —

May, y, hear fren you?
fogs : Sincerely,

be Pat Miller
 

Nevember 5, 1942.

Mir. Russell Wiley,
Director, University Bands.

Dear Mr. Wiley:

Will that be teo early to get the Cowboy Band in action?

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Eaucation,
PCAAH Varsity Basketball Coach. —

 
THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS

SCHOOL OF FINE ARTS
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DEPARTMENT OF BAND October 29, 1942

Dr. Forrest C, Allen

Director of Physical Education
Varsity Basketball Coach
Department of Physical Education
University of Kansas

Campus
Dear Dr, Allen:

Thank you for your good letter of October
27 regarding the Cowboy Band. I am happy to
know you enjoyed it; and it probably goes with-
out saying that we are, personally, getting a
great deal of kick out of the organization,

I am considering the possibility of using
the Cowboy Band at the basketball games for the
following reasons: First, it is small and will
be easy to seat in the limited space available
for the band. Second, it is made up of top
players from the larger band; consequently, it
possesses a great deal of snap and quality.

What do you think of the idea?

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Sincerely yours,
Director of Physical Education,
Varsity Basketball Coach.

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Dear Harrys

Zi am sending you a copy of a letter written to
me on August 14th by George Edwards. I am also sending
you a carbon copy of my reply to him. I believe that I

have made it perfectly clear to him that there would
have been no reopening of the situation had it not
for your initiative.

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With all good wishes, I am

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UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI!

COLUMBIA

Kansas City, Mo.
August 14, 1942

INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS

De. F. C.. Allen,
University of Kansas,
Lawrence, Kan.

Dear Dr. Allen:

Late this morning I received the following
by wire: .

Creighton will allow shift in dates. Make
plans for 29th and 30th in Kansas City.
| Larry Snyder..

A notification of this acceptance was sent
to you by telegraph early this afternoon. Thus, all of
those involved are ready to accept and to execute the
responsibilities made possible by your kind invitation.
As host school I presume that you will draw up the
necessary contracts. Missouri authorities are ready
to sign according to assurance given me by Spurling
earlier in the week.

I regret very much the near mix-up which
arose in regard to Pre-Flight, and am very happy that
both Hickey and Snyder cooperated so beautifully.

In closing my letter of July 10 I wrote:
"Your decision has been accepted; we have gone ahead with
other plans; and I hope your games will bring you lots
of money." Our other plans consisted of a shift in
dates with Pree-Flight in order to permit them to meet
Creighton.

: When Spurling asked me if I would be willing
to accppt your invitation I thought he was joking as your
letters were rather emphatic regarding my suggestions. If
my own personal feelings had been the sole guide I would
have rejected your invitation, but the fact that I still
thought the double header plan was a good one for both
the competitors and basketball in this area overrode ny
personal prejudices and I told Spurling I would like to
accept.

The subsequent news article made it plain that
this is your affair,- and that is proper,= but it also
mentioned the participation of Pre-Flight who, I knew, was
scheduled for Omaha. Until then it never occurred to me

that you would have invited us without knowing that the
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dates were cleared. It was, then, with the desire to be
of assistance if possible that I phoned you when I reached
Kansas City. The news seemed to surprise you no end.

While this is a Kansas affair I,nevertheless,
agreed to attempt negotiations with PreeFlight. Larry
was very receptive but had already signed a contract with
Creighton and we had to await their decision on the request
for cancellation of the date.

I firmly believe that had you elected to transmit
this invitation to me directly instead of making me the
third person in the series that none of this friction would
have happened. For your information, details concerning
basketball at Missouri are handled by me operating under
policies and supervision of the Committee on Intercollegiate
Athletics. I much prefer handling such matters directly
with the responsible party at other institution rather than
through alumni, however capable and interested, and the
business mgnager.

From now mmk and until late in August I am taking
my vacation but can be reached at the residence of
Dr. F. A. Hummer, 1311 Indiana Ave, phone Benton 7229. If
there is any way in which I can be of service to you in these
games while in Kansas City I would appreciate notice.

Yours truly,

George R. Edwards.
 

 

August 26, 1942.

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Mr. Dorman H. O*Leary, . |
Viee President, Stern Brothers & Co.,
Kansas City, Missouri.

Dear Dorman:

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I know you are tired of reading this tripe, but \
after everything was all settled and Missouri had \
agreed, through the interpolations of Harry Welsh, )
it was discovered that George Edwards had without }
saying enything to Harry Welsh changed the date of |
his game with Pre-Flight School from Janusry 50 to
Pebruary 12. .

Of course, MeBride had already run it in the ;
paper and I told Harry, and Harry agreed with me,
that unless Missouri straightened out the situation _
and came in with the lows team there would be nothing |

doing.

this letter is from Goorge Eamarde after he thinks
larry Snyder and Eddie Hickey did a wonderful job in
arranging it so George could play as he original
agreed upon. reese ‘te tastiest, buh i 8A wont
a ee ole story so when you talk to Hatch

you would know that somebody is a screwhell. It is not
necessary for me to mention any names.

Very cordially yours,

Director of Physical Bducation,
FOA :AH . Varsity Basketball Coach.

 
STERN BROTHERS & COMPANY

DORMAN H. OLEARY

VICE PRESIDENT KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI

August 13, 1942.

Dear Phog:

Thank you very much for your letter
of the eighth, together with copies of the
correspondence.

I am glad this matter is arranged
and think it was a very happy solution for
Hateh Welch to work it out with you. Cer-
tainly, George Edwards is an old woman if I
ever saw one.

Ve Sincerely,

meet

POA

. Dr. Forrest C. Allen,

University of Kansas.
Lawrence, Kansas.

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Kansas City, Moe
August 14, 1942.

“Dre y. C. Allen,

University of Kansas,
Lawrence, Kan.

Dear Dr. Alle:
Late this morning I received the following by wire:

Creighton will allow shift in dates. Make plans for 29th
and SOth in Kansas City. Larry Snyder.

A notification of this acceptance was sent to you by
telegraph early this afternoon. Thus, all of those involved are ready
to accept and to execute the responsibilities made possible by your
kind invitation. As host school I presume that you will draw up the
necessary contracts. Missouri authorities are ready to sign according
to assurance given me by Spurling earlier in the week.

I regret very much the near mix-up which arose in regard
to Pre-Flight, and am very happy that both Hickey and Snyder cooperated
so beautifully. |

In closing my letter of July 10 I wrote: "Your decision
has been accepted; we have gone ahead with other plans; and I hope your
games will bring you lots of money." Our other plans consisted of a
shift in dates with Pre-Flight in order to permit them to met Creighton.

When Spurling asked me if I would be willing to accept your
invitation I thought he was joking as your letters were rather emphatic
regarding my suggestions. If my own personal feelings had been the sole
guide I would have rejected your invitation, but the fact that I still |
thought the double header plan was a good one for both the competitors and
basketball in this area overrode my personal prejudices and I told Spurling
I would like to accept.

The subsequent news article mde it plain that this is your
effair,- and that is proper,- but it also mentioned the participation of
Pre-Flight who, I knew, was scheduled for Omaha. Until then it never
occurred to me that you would have invited us without knowing that the
dates were cleared. It was, then, with the desire to be of assistance if
possible that I phoned you when I reached Kensas City. The news seemed to
surprise you no end.

While this is a Kansas affair I, nevertheless, agreed to
attempt negotiations with Pre-Flight. Larry was very receptive but had
already signed a contract with Creighton and we had to await their decision
on the request for cancellation of the date.

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I firmly believe that had you elected to transmit this
invitation to me directly instead of making me the third person in the
series that none of this friction would have happened. For your ine
formation, details concerning basketball at Missouri are handled by me
operating under policies and supervision of the Committee on Intercollegiate
Athletics. I much prefer handling such matters directly with the responsible
party at other institution rather than through alumi, however capable and
interested, and the business manager.

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can be reached at the residence of Dr. F. A. Hummer, 1311 Indiana Ave., phone Benton
7229. If there is any way in which I can be of service to you in these games ;

while in Kansas City I — appreciate notice.

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Director of Athletics,
Oklehoma Ae & I. College,
Stillwater, Oklahoma.

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You know my original desire was to have
you in our double-headers with us, Great Lakes, and Pre-Flight
School, but Tony Hinkle blocked this when he scheduled with
Missouri at Columbia on January 29. I had written him asking
him to go along with us in these two games with you and with
us, but he failed us.

I regret it is impossible to have you. As
I told you, I a ee
Oklahoma Aggies as one of the principal actors.

With all good wishes, I am

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Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education,
PCA:AH : Varsity Basketball Coach.

 
 

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' August 13, 1942

Dear "Phog":

Received your letter of August 7 concerning
the double-header in Kansas City. Phog, you work the
matter out and we will be glad to cooperate with you.

Anything you decide will be agreeable to us.

Very cordially yours,

Yah Wwhk

PAUL D. HINKLE
Lieutenant, USNR
Athletic Office

Mr. Forrest ©, Allen

Director of Physical Education
Varsity Basketball Coach
University of Kansas

Lawrence, Kanses
 

August 10, 1942.

lia. Marry Welsh, Ue, Ae

John Mencock Mutual Life Insurance Coe,

922 Walnut Street, 3

Kenses City, Mo. =

Dear Harry: .
Here's something that I certainly can't figure out.

PCA: AH oe Varsity Basketball Coach.
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August 10, 1942.

Mr. Harry H. Welsh, Jre,

John Hancock Mutual Life Insurance Co.,

922 Walnut Street,

Kansas City, Mo.

Dear Harrys

I, too, am happy that we were able to come to a decision thet seems
to have universal epproval. I assure you that I will be very happy to
consistently cooperate with you for our mutual benefit. I am glad that
you and Dorman O'Leary are enthusiastic about the double-header plans
for next year. You remember that I told you it would be necessary for
you and Dorman both to use your good offices with the Big Six Conference

faculty representatives in influencing their decision to permit such —
situations as this. ,

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I see no reason why Big Six teams should not be able to play each
other in the auditorium. They play service teams and the reason they
permit that is from the patriotic standpoint. ‘The service teams need
moneys While they need competition, their greatest need is money, and
the Big Six Conference permits it. Certainly the Big Six teams need
money. All their treasuries will be in bad shape. However, before the
year is over the Big Six Conference will, I believe, permit their own
teams to play each other in cities in which their schools are not
lesa

If you and Dorman can have a huddle with C. &, McBride I am sure that
you could restore the Kanseas-Missouri indoor track meet in Kensas City,
and while you are doing that it would be an easy matter to permit basket-
ball teams to play in cities wherein the universities are not located.
An expectant and a watchful policy will do this job if you and Dorman
cen start the ball rolling. We have two alumi members in Kansas City
end if you and Dormgy could meet with your representative committees at
: lumoheon some time I am sure that you could get the job well on the
way. The reason that I am mentioning this is that there will be a
faculty meting of the Big Six in Kensas City in early September and
another in December. It is so much easier to get the job done when the
faculty meeting is in Kansas Cith than when they met at Lincoln or eise-
where in May. The faculty are always more accessible and susceptible to
you in Kensas City during the winter meting. I believe you get my point.

I am sure that we will have a very fine crowd because 1 propose to make
this a great patriotic gathering as well as fine athletic contests. With
us in the war up to our necks and our playing the service teams it lends
itself to a fine patriotic endeavor. .

Sincerely yours,

| _ ‘Director of Physical Education,
FCA:AH Varsity Basketball Coach. |

 
 

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HOME OFFICE

BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS
HARRY H. WELSH, Jr., General Agent

August 8, 1942 HENRY L. MAHLEY
Suite 814 Commerce Trust Building
922 Walnut Street
Telephone Harrison 0735 KANSAS CITY, MO.

Dr. Forest C. Allen, Director
Physical ducation

Varsity Basketball Coach
University of Kansas, Lawrence

Dear Dr. Allen:

Thanks very much for your letter of August 7. Of
course, I am very happy as to the out-come of your dec-
ision, and I assure you I appreciate it more than you
think; and my only hope now is that Missouri will have a
team near, or equal to yours, so that we will really have
two big nights of basketball.

I talked to Dorman O'Leary in regard to some double
headers in the Auditorium next year. He was very much in
favor of it and I assure you that we will do our best to
promote these basketball attractions.

You have been very fine and fair in this dealing
Dr. Allen, and I assure you I shall not forget ite I on-
ly hope that our newly formed friendship will carry on,
and I am looking forward for another nice #isit with you.

Very sincerely,

rry_Hé Welsh Jr.
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August 10, 1942.

Mr. Jack Gardner, Lieutenant, USER,
Athletic Office,

Pairfex Airport,

Kansag City, Kansas.

Dear Jack:

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written to Mr. C. E,. MoBride, which oe self-explanatory.

If you haven't closed with anybody on January 29th

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Sincerely yours,

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FOA:AI Varsity Basketball Coach.