January 24, 1942 Mr. Ned Irish 9 Rockefeller Plaza New York City Dear Ned: In the rush of things I find that I have failed te answer your good letter received about two weeks agos dust too many details to get caught up at presente _T want you to lmow that we greatly apprediate the many fine courtesies that you showed us and the team while we were in New Yorke No one could have been treated betters : I an sorry that we did not make a better showing, but I knew that we were doomed when Miller and Voran, two of our last year's regulars who were heavy scorers, failed to return this yeare We had no size and very little experience, and then the morning thet we left home on the 23rd of December, Bobby Allen took violently ill, then Sollenberger and Vance Hall, and each one of the fellows, one day at a time, took downe We simply had no fight or drive and the boys are just now beginning to recover from their illnessess Now, regarding next year's proposition, I would much rather wait until I have a team coming up that I think would make @ right sort of impression in the Baste I will have a bunch of youngsters next year which it will take a year or two to season, but the material on the freshmen team is much better than it has been in years paste , However, I believe that we will stay home and learn sone fundamentals and if we have a few fairesighted boys to throw in the hoops, I am sure that we will not be in the position we were this year when some of our standbys failed to return. Again thanking you for all your courtesies and kKindnesses, I am, . : Sincerely yours, FeAslg : | Director of Physical Education and Recreation Varsity Basketball Coach | NED IRISH NINE ROCKEFELLER PLAZA NEw YORK, N.Y. January 7th, 1941 Dr. Forrest C. Allen, Varsity Basketball Coach, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. Dear Phogi- I am very happy to know that you enjoyed your trip and presume you would have enjoyed it a great deal more had your boys been more successful here and in Philadelphia. We enjoyed very much having you back here, and I sincerely trust that Kansas University will continue to be a regular visitor to New York City. It was a pleasure meeting the boys and I am sure that the majority of them would do much better on their second trip. Howard Engle- man was one of the finest players it has been my pleasure to see compete in these games. Regarding the settlement for your games with Fordham and Temple University. I am today forwarding a statement of your account to Fordham University and I pre- sume this will be relayed to you without undue delay, The same condition exists in reference to your game with Temple University. Mr. Yoemans, I am sure, will forward this to you. For your advance information, my accounts at present show that Fordham will receive for your account the amount of $2846.44 minus a tax deduewtion of $7.80 on complimentary tickets, or a net balance of $2838.64. Temple University will receive for your account $603.72 less a complimentary tieket tax deduction of $7.25 for a net balance of $596.47. The gate receipts in New York for your game with Fordham amounted to $17,714.34, the gate receipts in Philadelphia $2567.24. Your total proceeds from the two games will, there- fore, be $3435.11. I imagine that you will receive along with your statement from Fordham a request for a note cer- tifying that your expenses exceeded the limit of 2080.00, which reimbursement is included in the total sum you will receive. I trust that you will let me know if you are in- terested in returning, and if so with what schools you would care to schedule games so that I can refer the matter to them to take up with you directly in regard to arrangements on dates and financial conditions. Sincerely, y. Director of Basketball | Madison Square Garden NI:FP 7 : April 16, 1940. Mire Ned Irish, 9 Rockefeller Plaza, : lew York City, NeY Dear Ned: — $580 fron Temple, are agreeable, and the dates, Saturday, -Decenber 28 in New York City, end Monday, December 350 at Philadelphia, are perfectly satisfactory. You" percentage ee good ~emGe You my have Bd Kelleher and the Texple goach (and by the wey, his mame has s my mihd ~ will you please inform me? —o on the above stated basise | Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Bdueation and Recreation, PCAs AH Varsity Basketbell Coache NEO Teo NINE ROCKEFELLER PLAZA NEW YORK CITY April 15, 1940 Dr. Forrest Ce Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: I have your note of April 12th regarding the transporta- tion and hotel expense and will rectify my mistake in figuring the trans- portation and pullman. It is my understanding that your expenses would be $2080; —=— of this amount $1500 would be reimbursed you by Fordham University and ysS0_ by Temple University. < I am a bit concerned over the days that you mention in your letter, since it was my understanding from our conversation that we were discussing your game with Fordham to be played in New York on Satur- day December 28th and with Temple University in Philadelphia on Monday December 30the This is the arrangement that I have been working on in making up my schedule for both places. | ee Regarding the percentage figures for both Madison Square Garden and Gonvention Hall: The percentage for Kansas University in both places would be 10% of the gate receipts after the following deductions have been made: In New York the Kansas expenses are $1500. The expenses of Univer- sity of Minnesota are not to exceed $1250, and the expenses of Madison Square Garden preparation, officials, tickets, personnel, etce not to exceed $1500, or a total of (4250. In Philadelphia the deductions would be = Kansas not to exceed $080. The other visiting team not to exceed $750, if it is Santa Clara, which now seems likely, and the Convention Hall expenses not to exceed $1000, or a total of $2330. As yo can see fran this figure, the total deduction from both spots would be $6580 at the most. oe I would conservatively estimate the receipts from these two games to be between $15,000 and $20,000. The $15,000 receipts wuld be below our average for the past season. I do not see how the trip could fail to net you a profit of at least $1000, and will be disappointed if you do not make considerably more. I trust that this is the information ym desire, and if I have been correct in my assumption of the dates, I will get in touch with Fordham and Temple and have them forward the agreements to yo on the above stated basis. Sincerely eel Bal April 12, 1940. Mire Ned Irish, Director of Dasketball, Madison Square Garden, 9 Rockefeller Plaza, New York City, NeYe Dear Neds , Director of Physical Rdueation and Recreation, FOASAH Varsity Basketball Coach. ‘ : , oi. NED IRISH ree BR O D4 Ua u Ss NINE ROCKEFELLER PLAZA —e LS NEW YORK CITY OO-C oe 2 = te 4 a j/ oy April 4, 1940 Mr. Forrest Ce. Allen Coach of Basketball Kansas University Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phos: On my return to New York I checked on the transpor- tation costs between Kansas City and New York. The round trip rate rail fare is $69.05. The pullman would be approximately $15.00 round trip, or $85.00 a person, which would total $1275 for a party of fifteen. I presume that you will be away from the campus approximately six days, and on the basis of $100 a . day for your party - to cover meals and hotel accommodations- Ln I would say that a total of $1850 would be about the right | estimate. Nl Le This is a trifle more than Oklahoma Aggies and Oklahoma University or Missouri were reimbursed for their recent trips East. if this figure seems a fair estimate to you of your probable expenses for the trip, I will be glad to pass the infomation along to Fordham and Temple, so that they can cover this amount in the agreements to be executed by them with Kansas. I would like to suggest that of the $1850 total, $1500 would be reimbursed you by Fordham for participation in basketball here and the balance of $350 to be reimbursed to you by Temple. If this arrangement is satisfactory to you, I will immediately communicate with Fordham and Temple, so that they have a clear understanding of this picture. Sincerely aS Director of Basketball Madison Square Garden NMED !KISh NINE ROCKEFELLER PLAZA NEW YORK CITY March 18, 1940 Mr. Forrest Ce Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: I hawe your note of March 2nd regarding the possibility of your discussing a trip for your team to New York. I expect to arrive in Kansas City the evening of March 28th and will stay at the Hotel Continental. I trust at this time you will be in a posi- tion to let me know definitely whether or not you are interested in such a tri Pe A thle Yan — AS you probably know, Missouri ayed’Fordham here last winter and also met Temple and St. Joseph's in Phikgelphie at Convention Hall. At the present time Hordham University and St. John's University have an option on the Madison Square Garden court for a date in late December. Both schools, I understand, are nego- tiating with other institutions regarding games on that date, but it is my understanding neither has definitely committeed itself to such a game. City College is also considering the possibility of scheduling Butler on December 26, but it is possible that this game could be played at a later date, since Indianapolis is just over- night from New York, in which event City College might also be interested in securing a game with your team. If you would give me some idea as to whether any or all of these opponents would be satisfactory to you I could then be in a position to have these institutions get in touch with you. It is my understanding also that Ed Kelleher of Fordham, Joe Lapchick of Ste John's and Nat Holman of City College will attend the meeting in Kansas City. I am not certain as to whether any of these indi- viduals have complete authority in arranging their schedules, but ZI am sure if you were interested in any one of these teams and the proper authorities were aware of this fact in advance they would be in a position to negotiate dates and terms with you in Kansas Citye For that reason, if it is possible for you to give me some of your ideas along this line before we leave here next Wednesday March 27th I feel sure it would be possible to complete arrangements at the Kansas City meeting. Sincerely you c Director of Basketball Madison Square Garden My, Ned Irish, 9 Rockefeller Plaza, New York Citys Hele Thank: you very much for your kind letter of the 26th ultimos I have been so absorbed in basketball genes that I have not had an opportuni’ to write you | before this. We are leaving for Sunday night, end then on Priday we play Ollahom at Norms | I appreciate your writing me as you did about ' Maleate ocr ant anid As you Imow, in the past we heve not been permitted, by our Big Six Conference rule, to play in a public place such as Madison Square Gardens However, I am hoping thet our conference “moguls” will becane & Little nore lenient, ss cur team would like to play in New Yorke : ee ee ee you about thie at sane time whon it is convenient for us to get together, because I am interested. With best wishes, I on _ Very sincerely yours, Heo Ants NINE ROCKEFELLER PLAZA NEW YORK CITY February 26, 1940 Dr. Forrest Ce Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: I have had several letters recently fran coaches in your conference and others in your section and all seem to agree that your Kansas University team will be the outstanding team in the Big &/next season. In view of this fact, I am wondering if you would be interested in bringing your team East. There are several possible dates that I could suggest, and if yo are in- terested I could have the schools who have the option on the Garden court for these dates communicate directly with ym regard- ing such a tripe City College of New York has the right to lease the Garden court on Thursday December 26th or on Monday December Dth-e There is also a possibility that St. John's University, which has the right to the Garden court on Saturday December 21st, may not have concluded its negotiations regarding that date. Manhattan College, also a member of the I.C.A.A.A.A-,has a tentative arrangement with Texas which I think hinges on the probability of that team winning in the Southwest Conference Championship. That date is Saturday Decenber 28th. It is also possible, although I am not definite- ly sure of this yet, that New York University may not have closed for its opponent on Saturday,Jamary 4th. | On any one of these dates it wold probably be possible for me to have Temple in Philadelphia arrange to play you a night or two later in Convention Hall, which is a modern structure and has the same playing surface and conditions that surround our court in the Garden. St. Joseph's College and La Salle College also use this court as their home court for all major games. St. Joseph's is the team that defeated Missouri this year, although Missouri at the time of their trip here mst have been mch weaker than they are at the present writing. As you know fran our previous camversations, we do not make arrangements directly with the compet ing schools. The local team which leases the court would te responsible for the conduct of the game and for the financial arrangements. However, it is our custom to see that your transportation and hotel expenses from Lawrence, Kansas to New York and return would be campletely underwritten by these two games. Kansas University would also receive 10% of the gate re- ceipts after deducting your traveling expenses. The transportation ‘ of any other visiting team which plays in the Garden or Convention Hal on the same night, and the expenses of conducting this program in the Garden and Convention Hall limited to $1500.00 in Madison Square Garden MED -'RISH NINE ROCKEFELLER PLAZA NEW YORK CITY Dre Forrest CeAllen mie February 26 1940 and $1000.00 in Convention Hall. The expenses such as tickets, officials, ticket takers and ticket sdlers, cleaning the building, etce generally exceed this figure, but it is the amount agreed upon by all the parties who make use of these courtse I would appreciate an early response from you, since as you may have noted in this letter negotiations by the local schools in many cases have already been started with other institutions, and if there is a possibility that,you wuld be interested in a trip here I would rather see a Big Szteam come in than three or four from the Western Conference. Sincerely i” “a Director of Basketball Madison Square Garden Janmary 4, 1942 Mr. Stanley Ge Waltz General Manager | University of Michigan Union Ann Arbor, Michigan Dear iir, Waltzs, from reading a carbon copy of your letter sent to our Chancellor Deane ™, Halotte Prior to my reading this letter I received a eall from our Director of Public Relations, lite Kee Tavidsor, telling me that the Chancellor had cailed his attention to this letter, and he was in turn informing otherse This made me very hapvye The fact that you wrote this letter entirely usolicited and without my knowledge deeply cratifies mo, 2 The morning that our team left, your very affable man in charge of the cafeteria called me over and said, “May I say something to you? I said, “Yes, indeed Sire” At the same time I feared that something had cone wrong and thet maybe one of our boys had gotten out of Line over Sonetiting, but much to my surprise and elation this young man said, "I want you to imow that this is the finest group of boys that has ever visited the Michigan Union, and we see a lot of then heres" I said to this young mn, "This makes ne very happy." When the boys got on the train I called them together and called attention to the fact that teams from all over the United States stop at the Michigan Union, and apparently there was no motive other than to tell us that by contrast we were & group of fellows just merely behaving ourselvese ‘To me it is a sad connentary on sports when @ group of fellows representing colleges of America think themselves 80 privileged that they can destroy property and act like rowdies, The mere fact that we were ordinary gentlemen called forth unuswl praise for just being decent; therefore, I told the boys that I wanted them to lnow that I was very proud of them, but the great benefit from such & compliment went to the University of Zanses, And so, lire Waltz, it ts very generous of you to write the letter to our Chancellor. Such acts as yours are constructive because this afternoon when I meet the boys in a conference I shall read them your letter, and I am sure that . you will mke them feel that it is very worthwhile to be gentlemen, With deep appreciation and Wishing you @ Very Progperous and Happy New Year, I am, : Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Edueation and Recreation FCAglg Varsity Basketball Coach | e¢: Kolo Davidson STANLEY G. WALTZ GENERAL MANAGER « a UNiversity oF MicHiGAN UNION | ip Oe ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN December 2&7, 1940. Mr. Forrest C. Alien, Director of Physical Education, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kan. Dear Mr. Allen: The enclosed copy of my letter to Dr. Malott is, I believe, self-explanatory. While I presume you will feel inclined to pass most of this credit on to your beys, 1 have the firm conviction that you are far more responsible for their behavior than any other one person. So often we have visiting athletic teams staying with us whose coaches have no sense of responsibility and in fact, act worse than many members of their squad. While without question you are to be commended upon your fine basket- ball teams, the thing that is much more out- standing to me is that you are teaching your boys character. Sincerely yours, -~ SGWaltz W ae EEE REET SPT TEIN: REY RTE ES, Ay RS ETT TN DNR RIMES SEETEOIE YS" > Ag PSE aa ae " NE PEE NE LE RSPR RE: CORRE ee REN enna eae December £7, 1940. Dr. Deane W. Malott, Chancellor University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. bear Dr. Malott: This letter may seem a bit unusual to yOu, but the ‘ circumstances prompting it are in my mina considerably out of the ordinary. A few days ago we hac the pleasure of entertaining Director F. C. Alien and his basketball squad enroute to the East. This particular phase of the situation is certainly not unusual because during the year many athletic teams ranging from Y. M. C. A. squads to those of the Big Ten Conference stay at the Michigan Union. The angle that 1 wish to comment upon is this. During the many years that 1 have been associatea with the Michigan Union, 1 have never come in contact with a finer group of boys. It has been our experience that visiting athletic teams are the greatest souvenir huntérs in the world. So often we fina it necessary to check through their luggage before they leave the building and frequently we have to write to the coaches or athletic directors and ask for the return of articles which have been picked up. The boys from your university were extremely courteous, very well behavec and when they checkea out in the morning every towel was neatly folded ana left at the bottom of each bed. The bathroom and showers were not in disorder; in fact, another team could almost have stepped into the room without any cleaning or maida service. , It is my observation that college students are very apt to adopt the qualities, good or bad, which their | Decenber 30, 1940 Your letter of December 27 to Dre Allen, enclosing a letter you wrote to Dr. Allen returns to the office about January 43 your letter will be brought to his attention then. Sincerely yours, Secretary to Dre Forrest C. Allen UNIVERSITY OF MIOHIGAN UNION AMR ARBOR, MICHIGAN The enclosed copy of my letter to Dr. Melott is, I believe, self-explenstery. While I presume you will feel inclined to pass most of this credit STANLEY @, WALTZ Generel Manager corr UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN UNION ANH ARBOR, MICHIGAN Stanley G. 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