April 12, 1958~ Mr. We Pe Coon, dre, Cogn'’s Athletic Goode Cos, 925 Malnut Stroct, Kemses Citys, Mo. Ordlearily the Dopartnent of Poyatoal i wo find it desirente hewe @ few on hand. L you i send us one dozen of the $3.00 tommis halle? We —_— if sistas suia'tear watsilia soe atuahien, See ? Director of Physick] Education, vCARAl } Varsity Basketball Coches : : is] i : Ha Hitt wt tg pi ali i , a i iat a Hae Hie Ge ri Ri i Hy i | : iat Hi i i 3 1 wt il 4 o : 3 ‘| : THE OSBORNE CITY SCHOOLS L.H. BREWSTER, Superintendent ‘ae Osborne, Kansas March 22, 1938 Wr. Fogg Allen, s Director of Athletics, S University of Kansas, . ' Lawrence, Kansas. Dear Mr. Allen: Although you and I have never met, I have kept in close eS touch with the University. I am a reader of the Central i Christian Advocate and sometime ago noted an articie in there concerning your work in the Methodist *hurch at Lawrence. Be- cause of that article more than for any other reason I feel I can say some things to you that I could not otherwise. We are very apt to be needing a new coach for football and basketball next year. This is not final but I am writing to you to determine what you may have to say concerning a first- class applicant. ‘Ye have two splendid men in our system here now and they have been offered contracts to return, but I be- lieve my football coach will be signing up elsewhere. He has one or two good opportunities at this time, but as I say, an opening has not definitely occured as yet. For sometime this school and community has wanted a first-class coach from K. U. I am wondering if you have such a prospect. If so; please hand him the enclosed application blank. First of all; we wanta man of Christian character and principles. No smoker need ap- ply. We feel that our coach, above all other persons on the Faculty, has an opportunity for character building and for that reason we want the very best in this position, and naturally they 2 must have the goods when it comes to football and basketball. We are willing to take an inexperienced man if he has the personality and make-up that you consider necessary to make good in a big way. We appreciate any favor that you may give us in | the way of time and ee to place the proper applicant-in con- nection with us. KID i eS Sy es \ fe £ ot fe Bx ews e ee i Z f 2 rogers % Rowland, Derristers, | 60 Richmond St» West, | 2, GATADM. | Peadon my in ensworing your splendid letter — myself agreeing on sending lire Ste Jon a lettor, and you a earben =a of the satee Itrust thet you will be able to work out to your satisfactions 1 hae enjoyed your followhiy ia the may nootings we have had togethers inthis cf tienteid pieiitedy | RocGEeRsS & ROWLAND TELEPHONES ELGIN 2333 BARRISTERS, SOLICITORS NOTARIES HOI-2 VICTORY BUILDING SAMUEL ROGERS,K.C. 80 RICHMOND ST. WEST WALTER M. ROWLAND COUNSEL JOSEPH -SEDGWICK , “K.-C. TORONTO 2, March lst, 1938. F. G. Allen, Esq., University of Kansas, LAWRENCE, Kansas, Us &. A. Dear Dr. Allen: I am enclosing copy of a letter which I re- ceived from Mr. St. John written under date of February 2lst also copy of Mr. St. Johnts letter to Mr. Crocker and copy of my reply to Mr. St. John. In my letter to Mr. St. John I have set out fully and accurately the Canadian situation and am mere- ly asking that no further action be taken until such time as the Committee has had an opportunity to consider fully all aspects of this situation. It is a matter of great regret to me that our Canadian differences should have to be aired before the Rules Committee but as matters have progressed to the point which is disclosed by the correspondence there does not seem to be any other alternative. If after reading the correspondence, you agree with me that the course which I suggest is the proper one under the circumstances, would you write Mr. St. John and express that view. Yours truly, SR/VCM Encls. 6 OP. February 2lst, 1938. Mr. Samuel Rogers, 80 Richmond St., West, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Dear Mr. Rogers: Foryour information, I am sending you herewith copy of a letter I wrote to Mr. Crocker under date of February 15. This letter was sent to all members of the Executive Committee, a majority of which have expressed to me their concurrence in my judgment, which is that the Canadian AmateurBasketball Association by cancelling its alliance with the A.A.U. of Canada, thereby discontinued its official affiliation with the National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada. As you doubtless know, Mr. Crocker is abroad, so that I have had no opportunity to hear from him. However, in looking forward to our annual Basketball Rules Meeting, it seemed necessary to get this matter straightened out, so as to avoid any embarrassment at the coming meeting. You will understand, I hope, that there is nothing whatever of a personal nature in my dealing with this subject. You personally have been very well received and well liked by all members of our National Basketball Committee. The facts, however, seem to point to the conclusion that the AAU of Canada, as the original body represented on our Rules Committee, and as the official organization of Canada now affiliated with other national bodies in the international | basketball picture, is still the organization entitled to representation on our Basketball Committee, I understand from other sources that Mr. Crocker was appointed as the official representative of the A,A.U. of Canada at the last meeting of that organization, This will mean that for the next meeting of the National Basketball Committee, Mr. Grocker will represent both the A.A.U. of Canada and the Canadian Intercollegiate Athletic Union. I hasten to inform you of this situation, so that we may avoid, if possible, any misunderstanding and unpleasantness. Cordially yours, Le We St. John, Encl. Chairman. LWS : MF ¢ 0 PY February 15th, 1938. Mr. J. H. Crocker, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada. Dear Mr. Crocker: You will recall that I discussed the basketball situation in Canada with you when I saw you in Canada last August at your Canadian summer home. I had a letter on this same subject from Samuel Rogers under date of September 20, 1937. I, also, received a letter on October 15, 1937, attach- ing thereto copy of a letter from Mr. Sammel Rogers to you under date of October 14, I am sorry to have neglected the matter of attending to this problem for so long. These letters should have been answéred and I should have express- ed my best judgment on the various questions raised a long time since. However, I am at last taking cognizance of the matter and giving you herewith my best judgment. ; The situation existing in Canada at the present time seems somewhat complicated and I may not be entirely correct in my premises and, therefore, possibly wrong in my conclusions, In the first instance, as I recall, you re- presented the interest of Canada in our Basketball Rules Committee meeting as official spokesman for the Amateur Athletic Union of Canada, and also, for the school and college interest, which later was more definitely organized as the Canadian Intercollegiate Athletic Union. In this earlier stage of development, the Canadian Amateur Basket- ball Association was definitely a subsidiary of the Amateur Athletic Union of Canada, and when Samuel Rogers came to our meeting as a Canadian representative, he had been definitely delegated by the president of the As. Ae Us of Canada. It always has been my understanding that we were dealing with the Canadian Intercollegiate Athletic Union and the A.A.U. of Canada, which correspond to the Amateur Athletic Union of the United States in its relation to amateur sport in Canada. As the picture appears to me now, the Canadian Amateur Basketball Association has decided to withdraw from the Amateur Athletic Union of Canada and operate as an in- dependent group. It seems to me indicated, therefore, that the Canadian Amateur Basketball Association should not be re- cognized officially at the present time by our basketball group in preference to the A.A.U. of Canada. In other words, it seems to me in order that the president of the Canadian Amateur Athletic Union should appoint an official representa- tive to our Rules Committee to succeed Samuel Rogers or Mr. C. R. Blackstock. Mr. J. H. Crocker #2 February 15, 1938 If, on the other hand, the Canadian Amateur Basketball Association were to be officially recognized and designated by the Canadian Amateur Athletic Union as that organization which has jurisdiction over and res- ponsibility for amateur basketball in Canada under the control of the parent body, namely, the A.A.U., then we would continue to recognize the Canadian Amateur Basket-~ ball Association as the official body to hold representa- tion on our National Basketball Committee. I hope I am correct in my conclusions, but feel the need of being guided by your judgment. Has the A.AU. of Canada officially appointed a representative to the National Basketball Rules Comm- ittee? If so, who is this representative? I do not know what, if any disposal Was made of the funds which are mentioned in the letter Mr. Rogers wrote to you. It would be my offhand judgment that this amount of:money should be divided on a fifty-fifty basis between the Canadian Intercollegiate Athletic Union and the organization which Mr. Rogers officially represented, which, as I understand it, was the Canadian Amateur Basket~ ball Association, a subsidiary of the Canadian A. A. U- I am sending a copy of this letter to the Execu- tive Committee of the National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada, This Executive Committee con- sists of the officers of the Rules Committee, together with yourself and Dr. Brown, I am asking this Executive Committee to express to me their judgment on the question of the appropriate or legal representation from Canada. Cordially yours, Le We. St. John, Chairman LWS/MF €oPpyx March lst, 1938. Le W. St. John, Esq., Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio, U. S. A. Dear Mr. St. John: I acknowledge receipt of your letter of the 21st ultimet enclosing copy of letter written to Mr. Crocker un- der date of February 15th. As it is quite apparent that you have only heard one side of the Canadian situation and that the members of the Executive have not been informed of the true situation in Canada, I cannot agree to abide by the decision express- ed in your letter. In the first place, the Canadian Amateur Basket- ball Association was given its representation on the Rules Committee under the constitution approved some years ago and I do not believe that the Executive is empowered to ad~ mit the A.A.U. of Canada’*> and disbar the C.A.B.A. from its membership until the matter has been dealt with by the Rules Committee as a whole by way of amendment to the con- stitution. I do not, however, intend to base my argument up-~ on technical or legal grounds, but upon the fact that the C.A.B.A. represents approximately ninety percent of all basketball played in Canada. The A.A.U. of Canada repres- ents no basketball whatsoever and the Canadian Intercolleg- iate Association represents only a few colleges in Ontario and Quebec. The University of British Columbia Canadian 1937 senior champions and Mount Alison University, New Brunswick, intermediate 1937 champions are C.A.B.A. teams, It has always been our mutual objective that there should be one set of rules for the United States and Canada and if the step which you suggest should be taken and the C.A.B.A. barred from participation in the Rules Committee, we would have no other alternative than to set up our own Rules Committee under whose rules practically all basketball in Canada would be played. Le W. St. John #2 March lst, 1938. Mey I point out that there is a serious error in your letter to me when you state that the A.A.U. of Canada was the original body represented on the Rules Committee. The A.A.U. as such has never at any time been represented on the Rules Committee. Mr. Crocker, in the first place, together with John Brown, was a reéw presentative from the Y.M.C.A.'s of the country at large. At a later date Canada was given two representatives, Mr. Crocker and myself both being appointed by the C.A.B.A. At a still later date it was decided to cut down Canadian representation to one and as the C.A.B.A. insisted that I should be their representative, a modification was’ made so that Mr. Crocker could continue his membership in the Committee as representative of the Canadian Intercolleg- iate Association. The A.A.U. of Canada is not now the official organization of Canada affiliated with other national bodies in the international basketball picture. I have on my desk a copy of a letter from Mr. W. Jones, Secret- ary of the Federation Internationale De Basketball dated the 2nd of January, 1938, in which he states that the A,A.U. of Canada has been notified as at January 2nd, 1938, that the F.1.B.B. is not renewing its membership; that it will not renew any Canadian membership without previously satisfying itself that the applicant deserves the qualification of member; that the F.I.B.B. believes that basketball must be an independent sport, promoted and governed by its own freely chosen organization and that following its constitution, it is the National Basket- ball Federation which is recognized as the responsible body; the A,A.U. in the case of Canada is only a super- federation and cannot claim to control any sport directly except in track and field, etc. From this you will see that the A.A.U. of Canada is no longer recognized in international basketball circles. I would add that steps are now being taken by the C.A.B.A. which will undoubted~ ly result in that body being recognized as the official basketball organization in Canada. I also note your statement that Mr. Crocker was appointed official representative of the A.A.U. of Canada at the last meeting of that organization. While I have not checked the accuracy of this statement, it does not seem to me to bear upon the matter at all. In the first place, the A.A.U. has never at any time been accorded membership in the Rules Committee nor has it made appli- cation for much, in the second place, the A.A.U. controls L. W. St. John #3 March lst, 1938. no basketball and there is not one team in Canada play- ing directly under its auspices. I quite appreciate your remarks that there is nothing personal in connection with this matter and may also add that as between Mr. Crocker and myself there is nothing personal in this letter, but I do say that neither yourself nor any other members of the Executive have been informed as to the true Canadian picture otherwise I feel certain that you would not have reached the conclusion which is contained in your letter. I am sending a copy of this letter to every mem- ber of the Committee and would ask you to take the matter up again with the members of the Executive and request that further action be deferred until the meeting of the Rules Committee is held, At that time the three bodies concerned, namely, the C.A,B,A,, the A.A.U. of Canada and the Canadian Intercollegiate Association should be asked to make a full statement as to the Canadian situation and the Committee should judge for itself what action should be taken, : Unless the C.A.B.A. remains as a member of th® National Committee it will no longer be a National Basket- ball Committee of the United States and Canada. Yours truly, SR/VCM Samuel Rogers, When vou come to Lawrence this week I wonder if you could stop in Dre Allen's office et your conven= fence, We are interested in purchasing one of the _ adjustable chairs which you mentioned to me. I be~ lieve you said the cost was something like $1260. I algo think we shall be able to get = Linese-time, or some similar arrengenent for use on a typewriter desks Sincerely yours, _— Seeretary to Drs Pe Ce Allen, Direstor of Physical Educetione XY Mesch 29, 1938. your ed that we dan be sresoat at your basketball banquote ith all good wishes, I an - Director of Physical Bdusation, FCASAH Varsity Basketball Coaches OFFICERS E.W. COOPER, PresIDENT BEN W.HOKE, Vice PrResIDENT FRED B.CAMPBELL, CasHier LEE GARVIN, Assistant CasHiER J.B.COOPER, ASSISTANT CASHIER JAKE HOKE, Assistant CASHIER BANK OF LEE’S SUMMIT “THE OLD..RELIABLE” DIRECTORS E W.COOPER BEN W. HOKE FRED B.CAMPBELL AUGUST POOS LEE GARVIN JAKE HOKE ROBERT WILLIAMS LEE’S Summit, Mo. March, 24the 1938. vd ara \ Vv o Dre Fe GC. Allen Kansas University, i Lawrence, Kansas. a Dear Phogs a an I am just dropping you a line about our banquet we are having for our basket ball boys, gerlse We are having it on the evening of April, 6th., at about 63:30, and as you said you would come over and be our guest and speaker of the evening, if I would just let you know the date, so here I am letting you know that date is April, 6the We would be mighty happy, Phog, if you can arrange to come that evening, and if the time of 6:50 is not suitable, we can change the time to any time you saye Also, you will not want to drive over here, alone, so bring anyone you wish with youe Why not bring Mrs. Allen and another couple and the ladies could visit with lirs. Cooper, while we were at the banquet, if they did not care to attend. My wife would be delighted to have theme I am very anxious to have you talk to these two boys that graduate this year, Wells and Danielson, for they are really your kind. Your boy Praille really set the National, Tournament at Denver, afire, didn't he? I bet you are proud of him. He is sure a darbe Heres hoping you can make it on the 6th., and with very best to you and yours, I an, erely, x CRAMERGRAM A Message from The Cramer Chemical Co. Gardner, Kansas February 26, ly o 8 Dear "Phog": Reference your letter of February 25, you may be sure that I will give you credit for being the Founder of the Kensas Relays. Do you realize that I haven't missed a Relay since they started and naturally I know the set-up better than probably anyone else. It would seem to me, thet it is most wnfair to take you out. of this great classic since you are the one responsible for it being developed as it is. I appreciate the situation over there,but I will certainly see that you get the mention as you ee it. February 15, 1938. Director of Physical Education, — | | 4ttr2a.WD OA Cg oe 43, 4G ae. Jamary 31, 1938s good game ente I was intensely interested in\kind offer to interest Bob Wells, Danielson and Draper in the University of After the | | en opportunity — : Ea i é i It will be a great pleasure to sec you and your - group Wednesday eveninge Pull for us, because we need it. Sincerely yours, | Director cof Physical Education, TOAsAH Varsity Basketball Coache BANK OF LEE’S SUMMIT “THE OED RELIABLE.” OFFICERS E.W. COOPER, PresIDENT BEN W.HOKE, Vice PRESIDENT FRED B.CAMPBELL, CasHier LEE GARVIN, AssisTANT CasHiER J.B.COOPER, ASSISTANT CASHIER JAKE HOKE, Assistant CASHIER LEE’S SUMMIT, Mo. January, 28th. 1938. Dr. Forrest C, Allen, Director of Physical Education, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. Dear Phogs DIRECTORS E W.COOPER BEN W. HOKE FRED B.CAMPBELL AUGUST POOS LEE GARVIN JAKE HOKE ROBERT WILLIAMS Lee, Roy Brown, Chas. Childress, Carl Land, and I are planning to come out to see the K. U. - Nebraska game, and would it be asking too much for you to get us some good tickets, and leave them at the ticket window and we would pick them up there, and pay for them the night of the game, which Jack Hall tells me is the second of February, next Wednesday night. I do hot like to bother you, but do like to have good seats. and we will appreciate it very much. You seem to be going along pretty well, this season, in spite of your heavy losses by graduation. I can give you three mighty good boys for next yeare Bob Wells, Lee's Summit, a boy of your type, six feet four, and good action. A boy named Danielson, from Holden, six feet four, and also good base ball player. Draper, from Ruskin High, five feet eleven, and tricky, fast and great ball handlere These boys are all real scorers, t00e Well, will see you Wednesday might, and all the gang join me in best. Sincerely, hy Jenuery 18, 1938 Mr. Eimer A. Carson 1521 Monroe Street foveka, Kansas My dear Sr. Carson: fhe University catalog sent you a day or so ago does not contain the detailed outline of the curriculum for men in physical education. We are enclosing ea copy of the requirements for that work and suggest that if you heve questions after reading this material you might write to Dr. F. ©. Allen, Head of the Depart- ment of Physical Education, or arrange to come to Lawrence for a confereace with Dr. Allen. Sincerely yours, fateel Rich Secretary to the Dean WR: De Ene. sebei/SPERG, xipommmmmenmmenembommeaad ae aed aaa February 4, 1938 oe | “ Dipeetor of Phyeheal ‘Bhuiatitety FCAsAH Rarity Senet Reagee Oy Director of Physical Educati February 14, 1958. + to your you for your good They have the edge, but we have a lot of deter= and we hope that will be worth somethings Sincerely yours, With every good wish, I an Myre Fred Ee Vinton Vinton, Deaz lire wishes for hana to do mination, FCA sAH Binton Public Schools C. E. KNAPP, Superintendent Binton, Jowa February 11, 1938 Drs PF. Re €. Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen: Received your letter of the 28th for which I am very thank- ful to you for the information and eYarification of some of the things in the book. I have been using some sort of a zone for defense for the past twelve vears and stumbled into the 2-1-2 type and eventually found ourselves working tery close to your stratified transitional idea but this yezr we don't have 2 cen- ter so I am playing more or less of a 2-2-1 with boys correspond- ing to our center on the side who can figure quite heavily in the fast break. Will be following your Oklahoma game and hoping that you may be able to do the trick as I noticed Nebraska did last night. Again thanking you very much for your information, I am Very truly yours, Fad Goon) FECsLB Fred E. Cameron Ath. Dix.