November 2, 1737. Senate Advisory Committee, University of Kinane. The University of Kansas Physical Education Corporation, otherwise known as the Athletic Board of the University, is a non-profit-sharing corporation of fourteen members, eight of whom are faculty members which control the finances end direct the intercollegiate policy of the University of Kansas, » : The eight faculty members of the University of Kansas Physical Education Corporation (Athletic Board) are: W. W. Davis, Chairman ellor & H. Lindley R, ¥, Moore Karl Klooz FP, T, Stockton Lawrence Woodruff James B, Smith Je o, Jones. There are also two student members - the peasant of the Men's Student Council, Don Voorhees, and one athletic menber of | the student body, Ferrell Anderson, elected by the student betre This election serves as a nomination to the University of Kansas Physical Education Corporation. ‘The Corporation proceeds to elect these two student members to their board. The Alumni Association also elects their four members, and that election serves as a nomination to the Corporation, The four alumni members who hola membership under this plan are: George Nettels, term expires June 1940 Dan Servey, term expires June 1938 Dr. Marvin Hall, term expires June 192% Tom Van Cleave, term expires June 1939. Chancellor Lindley is ex-officio member » board, : ‘See ite! BRR CR. oe we on The eligibility for the athletic participation of all athletes is set by the Missouri Valley Intercollegis fe. Athletic Association, otherwise kmown as the "Big Six" Confer - ence, Professor W, We Davis is feculty representative, repre - enting Kansas in this conference. The faculty representatives are the legislative body of this Conference, making all laws rules covering participation of the athletes, The athletic directors serve as business managers. arranging all schedules and business details, all of which must be approved by the faculty representatives, . The Senate Committee on Athletics has not been extremely active since the formation of the Physical Education Corporation in 1923, However, it seems entirely logical that intra-mral athletics should come under the scope of the powers of the Senate Committee on Athletics, The charter of the University of Kansas Physical Education Corporation states that when the stadium is free and unencumbered of debt the earnings of the Corporation shall go toward play utilities for the students of the University of Kansas. The total cost of the stadium to date is $660,000, and there is yet a debt of $150,000 remaining in the form of deben-~ ture bonds, bearing interest at the rate of 54% per annum, An annual principal payment of $12,500 id due December 1 each year, plus this year's interest, amounting to $8,250 due semi- annually on June and December 1, If the present payment sched- ule is maintained the stadium will be free of debt by Decenber 1, 1948. The State of Kansas purchased the land known as the intra-mural field of 103 acres south of the University end also purchased four houses and six vacant lots north of the University for $31,000, the exact price paid several years ago by the Universit of Kansas sical Education Corporation, The C orporation purchased these holdings in their years of abundance, The vacant lots are now in use for tennis courts and the intra-mural field has been used by the University ever since its purchase in 1925, | Several years ago Dean George C, Shaad, then faculty representative from Kansas, proposed to the Big Six faculty representatives that the academic hours for eligibliity be reduced to 20 hours of work of "C" grade for the two pre. ceding semesters instead of the 350 hours of work above "Fed 1@ure" bs for Engineers, 28 hours for Laws, and 27 hours for Colleg. students. This was voted down, Three years ago the faculty representatives voted to reduce the Engineering requirement to 28 hours for the two preceding semesters, but no higher standard of grades was proposed, x ie? By 5 AE i a sili it seems entirely fitting that an investigati>” into the normal amount of work successfully carried and pass »~ by the majority of students at the University of Kansas s serve as a standard for athletic competition, Most of the athletes work all or part time in an effort to get through school, ff a student works he may carry but 12 hours of academic work, Should he pass 100% of his work the two pre- ceding semesters he would still be short three or four hours on his eligibility requirements, Summer school or correspond- ence study is the only thing open to him for eligibility, He needs the summer work to recoup his financial depletion, ft would respectfully recommend for consideration the raising of the standard to a "C" average and the lowering of the required hours to 10 each semester, making a total of 20 hours of "C" for the two preceding semesters prior to athletic participation, If such action was reported favorably by the Senate, the same could be conveyed to the Big Six Con- ference for their consideration at their next meeting. = Since Professor W, W, Davis is chairman of the eivageter of Kansas Physical Education Corporation (Athletic oard}j, and since he is also faculty representative from ‘Kansas to the Big Six Conference, which also means that he is ~ emattelit eee ne cent avenes of the Big Six, espec yY propose be favorably considered for the ehairmanship of the Senate Committee on thleties, Respectfully submitted, Chairman, Senate Committee on Athletics, oh sili ant To the University Senate: The comnittee appointed at the last mocting of the | University Senate to nonimte an Assistant Secretary of the Senate begs to sutmit the name of Prefessor Ce Je Poseys In the absence of Professor Earl De Hay, chairman of thie comittes, this report is mde by the undersigned. Respectfully sulmitted, \ Harl De Hay, Chairmen Rose Morgan Forrest Ce Allen Chancellor He He Lindley, > University of Kansas. Dear Dr, Lindley: It just occurred to me that there might be a possibility of a Senmte Comittee on Physical Rducations Soubtless there would be several members of the Senate Comittee on Athletics on the same. committee. , I am thinking now of several faculty members as possible members of this committee: Professors U. G. Mitchell, Guy Smith, Ce De Clark, lfiss Beulah Morrison, Miss “tealthy 4 Sabsoek or !iss Mlerence Black, Dre Twente or ore OBrien, ff Je Be Smith of the Law School, Je De Stranathan or Ce Ve Kent, ( Howard Taylor, J. 5. Taggart, Fe Ae Russell, D. i. Spencer, | Ge “e Stratton or Robert Tafte I have just mentioned these people to show the probable persomnel of a group of faculty members who would be tremendously interested in recreative — facilities for student health and play. _ ££ we could have such a group meet three or four times a year and discuss the recreation that students and faculty should have at the University, I am sure that there would be a more pronounced and more wholesome attitude toward student participation in worth while recreational activities. this group would hold up the arms of the individuals who are endeavoring to incorporate a more sane program for physical - education and recreetion at the University of Kansas. Doubt~ less it would be an excellent thing to have Professor We We levis head up both committees. _ These suggestions are respectfully sutmitted for your considerations Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education, FCAsAH Varsity Basketball Coach. ETT, Dre Allen = ; Dre Ce Fe Nelson (Biochemistry Dept.) as Chairman of the Mie Committee on Committees, has your letter to the Chancellor in regard to a Senate committee on Physical Education. His committee must make a report to the Senate next Tuesday, and he would like to talk to you iMonday at 2:30 about this new committee. His committee today (Frie) met and will recommend that the Committee on Athletics be abolished and that a new committee - "Intramural Sports and Physical welfare" (this is merely a suggested name) be set up with you as chairman. You should suggest the personnel of this camittee, to be approved by the Committee on Committees, so that the whole new set-up can be presented in complete form to the Senate on Tuesdaye AH Me Suggested: PHYSICAL WELFARE AND RECREATION PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND RECREATION amet a PRET Ea Ee EN Te PIC NR ee a nT De ee OTE Oe PNT NE Pa if ae: Si. Sait ee eemabereee area eee | Seuahow I find myeekt wable to divorce ayeel? fron the thought that the meabers of the whole lite of «he student = their play life GE : students to s Novenber Sy 19886 Professor Ae He Turney, School of Bdhusations Deax Professor Turney: I am sending you a copy of a letter which I bares junk written ea Keates Doubtless you can see how far the Senate com mittee has fumetioned regarding improvements of play facilities for the students of the University. This is emetly the distence they have traveled in the past , Several yearse Director of Physical Education, FCAsAI _ Varsity Basketball Conch, & Professor Ja Be Smith, law School, University of Kensose =i(és | ‘ Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education, Varsity Basketball Couche November iv, 19586 Professor Je 3e« Smith, re University of Kansase | Dear Professor Smiths ‘Thank you very much for your fine letter of November Sth. You have enunciated an opinion regarding a policy that seems wholly acceptable and logical, but it is not for me to express thet opinions However, I do want you to lmow that I very much appreciate your con— ee ee I might say, Professor Smith, that while I feel that you have expressed a point of view sympathetic to me, I should say that this committee should not be considered a committee representing the Department of Physical Education. Rather, I feel that it is just as important as a committee on Student Health and Housing. This affects the entire student body and faculty of the University, both men end women, and that is why I felt that a group of men on this committee representing a1] angles of the interests of the University would be GN NERO NO Ehe ; ZI did not say that I desired the Comittes on Athletics abolished. Rather, that committee could still fimetion if it so desired, although nothing has been done for quite some tines Noubtless all of the legal affairs, as well as the relation- ship of ome school with the other in athletics, would naturally be administered by the University of Kansas Physical Education Corporation, which is in fect the Athletic Toord. But if the Senate Committee dew sired to recommend that the number of hours for participation be cut dewn and the academic requirement raised, then that would be in their righte Say thet no student might participate by representing the University of Kanses wmiless this individual hed 20 hours of C average the two preceding semesterse A Senate cormittee could work this out and pass it on to the faculty representative, who is Professor We We Davise Then Professor Davis could go before the Big Six Conference end propose it. This was done several years ago, and nothing came of ite So long as we ere members of the Big Six athletic body we, of course, must follow the Big Six rule. And our Athletic Reard is faculty controlled, and since the members are appointed by the Senate it is a Senate committee. But getting back to the proposed Senate Committee on Physical Welfare and Recreation, there is so much wonderful work that could be ae &S committee where the other benign and rather impotent committee has failed to function, that I feel we should no longer imld back many of the much-needed improvements here at the Universitye The topography of Mount -Oread renders play space°here practically nil. We are further be- hind in this feature at this University than most any University in the United Statese By getting faculty members on this committee there would sas calc + “adiaae beds eas Sk a ie ete ens My larger policy, I have not felt that this should be looked at as an_ of the department, but rather a thought springing from the department stimulating all groups in various schools to help toward oe if, With appreiiiation, I an Very sincerely yours, pe ee Director of Physical Education, FCAsAH | Varsity Basketball Coach, UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS THE SCHOOL OF LAW LAWRENCE November 5, 1938 Dr. Forrest C. Allen Director of Physical Education, University of Kansas Lawrence. Dear Dr. Allen: It was very thoughtful of you to send me the copies of the correspondence enclosed in your letter of the third of September. I em distressed, however, by the dilemma presented by the resulting choice. The honor and distinction offered to me by the opportunity to serve on the proposed new Senate Committee on Physical Welfare and Recreation is not one to be lightly put aside. I deeply appre- Giate the proposed offer so what follows is said with much aiffi- culty. A deep sense of fair play and proper appreciation of the position of the several departments of the University operating, each in its owm field, for the whole family, causes me to conclude that the proposal overlooks a fundamental point. When the present committee for which the proposed new one is to be substituted was created the organization of the University was not the same as at present. Now we have a separately organized department in which training is done toward a special degree. I can see no more reason for a committee which must dominate that department's policy and conduct than 4 similar committee over the other separate departmentwof the Univer- sity. The new department is the Department of Physical Education. No one proposes such a general committee domination of other depart- ments and no reason is apparent to me why the Department of Physical Fducation should be differently treated by Senate Committee adminis- tration. This leads to the conclusion that the old committee should be discontinued and that the proposal should be abandoned. With kindest personal regards, I remain Sincerely, er THES UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS Lawrence April 12, 1939 TO THE PERSON ADDRESSED; At the meeting of the University Senate on April 4 it was voted that the following persons be appointed to serve on the Senate Committee on Athletics for the year 1938-39; We Davis, Chairman - CG, Allen James Naismith fF, L, Brown N. P, Sherwood Gwinn Henry F. T. Stockton Karl Kloozg J. D. Stranathan We trust that you will find it possible to serve on this committee. Sincerely yours, _ se J. WHEELER, Secretary of the Senate Nash, and committee -- Professor Kester Pursuant to my discussion with you and the members of the committee when they assembled in Room 16 Fraser on Saturday, morning, February 28, at that time 1 told you that there had been reports to the Senate Committee on Physical Education and Athletics. I am sending you a copy of a letter I wrote to Professor Kester on November 2, 1938, and also a copy of a letter I sent to the Senate Advisory Committee on November 2, 1937. This latter letter was written to the Senate Advisory Committee tmxinfuxm khemx so that they would know something about the University of Kansas Physical Education Corporation, the Athletic Board, and kha its relation to the Department of Physical Education and the University. .Many of the faculty members didn't know the inherent power which resides in the Department of Physical Education. This department controls the intramural program, the recreation program, and the required mmyrszx and elective courses in physical education. ; Doubtless you will remember that when it was proposed by the Senate that I be the chairman of the Genate Committee on Re- creation, Professor Posey recommended that it be referred back to the Senate Committee. A deep sense of fair play and proper appreciation of the position of the several departments of the University, each operating in its own field, for the whole family, causes one to conclude that the proposal overlooks a fundamental point. The Department of Physical is a separately organized department in which training is done toward a special degree. I can see no more reason for a committee which must dominate that department's policy and con- duct than a similar committee over the other separate departments of the University. No one proposes such a general committee domination of other departments and no reason is apparent why the Department of Physical Education should be differently treated by Senate Committee administration. Trusting that this clarifies your thinking in this regard and aids the committee in some of the things they are attempting, I am Very sincerely yours,