December 14, 1952.

i am very gind to have your inquiry of the
iith instant referring to our article in the feeeanber
isoue of The Athletic Journal on Goaleliie

the equipment for this game is memfactumed

Mirector of Physical Sducetion and Recreation, |
Varsity Basketball Coache

 
      

Dear Roys |
I aa enclosing saie additional inquiries on

Goal-iii, which came in today's mile I am sure you
will give each one your proupt attentions

Cordially yours,

Direstor of Physical Education and Recreation,
Varsity Basketball Coache
 

Decenber 15, 1959.

Dear Dudley:

i wee very to have your letter of the 15th
instant, and hasten to give you the information concerning

Shar wun cane coated we book on the gune. Ten

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Tt was indeed a pleasure te hove you here with us,
oven for a short vieit, end I trust that you my be coming
_ ‘this wy more often,

With kindest personal regards, < om

Vory sincerely yours,

Varsity Basketiell Conthe

 
 

SAN JOSE STATE COLLEGE

San Jose, California
December 13, 1959

MEN’S PHYSICAL EDUCATION

Dre Forrest Ce Allen

Director of Physical Education
University of Kansas

Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Dre Allen:

I should have written you a personal note of thanks long before this
date, thanking you for the many courtesies during my recent, hurried
visit in Lawrence. Please accept sincere thanks at this timee

The purpose of this letter is to ask for a quotation on your Hol-Hi
basketball standards. I should like to purchase one for my four
youngsters as a Christmas present, and, in addition, would like to
recommend the purchase of two or more for the use of our basketball
teams I feel that if we can get a few of them in circulation in
this vicinity, their use will spread very rapidly. I was greatly
impressed with the demonstration put on by the youngsters, between
halves, of your basketball game, and was quite interested in your
article which appeared in this month's Athletic Journale

Had a visit with John Bunn, at Rotary, yesterday, and told him all
about my visit with the Allens. He asked me to send kindest regards.

Trusting that I may have an early reply on the above, and with kindest
personal wishes to Mrs. Allen, Bob, your lovely daughter and Burt and
Ruth, I am

Cordially yours,

x vat &
DUDLEY S. DeGROOT

Director of Physical Education

 

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Necenber 15, 1939»

lite Oscar Erickson,

tirector of Physical Sduantion for Boys,
ae

Cheyenne, |

peaphlets will enswer your questionss
Should desire further informtion at any time
4% will be a to hear fran yous

Very sincerely yours,

Nirector of Physical Mdueation and Recreation,
Varsity Basketball Coase

 
 

December 16, 1959.5

Sayrett Township High a
Cresco, Pennsylvanins

Deas Coach Wiler

_\ Tam very glad to heve your letter of the 14th
instant ref 1g to our erticle in the December issue
of The Athietic Jowna on the new game, Gonl~lii.,

Medart Manufketuring Company, of Ste Louis, lissouris
‘ate ie aoe ee I en
and I am sure you will hear fron them in a very short times

If I can be of further assistance to you it will
be a pleasure to hear from yous

  

Sincerely yours,

Varsity Basketball Coaches

 
I am enclosing two additional inquiries about
Goal<iiie ‘This article in The Athletic Journal continues
to bring us letters which I immediately forvard to you so
that you can correspond with these prospects.

With best wishes of the Yuletide season to you

personally, and to the entire Medart staff, i an

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,
Varsity Basketball Coaches

 
rector of Physion] Biuention end Recreation,
Varsity Basketball Couche

 
_ 19th instast, end to now of your interest in Goal-ifi,

The equiment for Gealalf te mde ty the
+ Of Ste Louis, Missowie

Henufecturin:

We spent the sumer writing rules for Goal<ili, end this
firm @lse publishes the Gonleili, Rule Books I am irmediatee
ly sending your request for details —

 
Yireotor of Physical Education and Recreation,
Varsity Basketball Coache

 
i em very glad to have your inquiry of the
2ist instant concerning ow new game, Gosl<ili,

g Company, of Ste Louis, iMissouri.

edart Menufactuwing

. They also have published a Goalelii Rule Sook, which
we spext the guar writings I am sending your letter
on to this firm co timt they my send you the detailed
information you desires i em sure you will hear fron
then ina very short while. 7

Mvector of Physical Edueation and Recreation,
Varsity Gasketbell Coach

 
i an very glad to have your inguiry of the 22nd

Director of cal Education and
pn cag rt yp ea o eats

 
I am very glad to have your inquiry regarding our
new gant, Sonali

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sah time cam arr Sr a elgg ~ Rrggreyray

Director of Physieal Education and Recreation,
Varsity Baslsothball Coache

 
bir, Alan A» Hathens,

Christopher Coluntus High School,
Astor end Yaring Avenue,

Now York City, Nevo

Gear Mire Meathanss

a ee es oo
new game, Coel~lie

Very sincerely yours,

 
requests for informtion very pronptilye

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,
Varsity Basketball Coache :

 
 

 

December 28, 19306

“Mire DoGroct is @ personel friend of mine, and
oo

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,

 
 

 

December 28, 19396

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,
FCAsAH Varsity Basketball Coach. :

 
SAN JOSE STATE COLLEGE
San Jose, California

December 26, 1939
MEN’S PHYSICAL EDUCATION

Dr. Forrest C. Allen

Director of Physical Education and Recreation
University of Kansas

Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Dre Allen:

Thank you for your letter of December 15, in reply to my recent
inguiry concerning the Goal-Hi standardse As yet, I have had

no reply from the Fred Medart Company, and, unless I hear from
them immediately, it will be too late to get a requisition through
for winter purchase. Perhaps you can prod them up a bite

Trusting that you and Mrs. Allen and all of your fine family had
a very Merry Christmas, and wishing you a pleasant and successful
New Year, I am

Corm@ally a Q f
DUDLEY S. DeGROOT
Director of Physical Education

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Mre Roy Ee Weinzettel,
Ste Louis, Missourie
Dear Roys

Thank you for your kind letter of the 6th
instant.

First, I want to assure you tht the arrange-
ment you suggest with regard to the commission is
quite satisfactory with mee Your firm has
been so feir in al] its dealings that I would be
perfectly agreeable to your propositions

 
FRED MEDART
MANUFACTURING Co.

 

 

 

POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS SAINT Louis, Mo.

Rr: EE. WEINZETTEL
SALES PROMOTION MANAGER December 8, 1949

Dr. Forrest C. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phog:
I have just received the December issue of the
Athletic Journal anal: gare to compliment you on
that splendid pictu y ,vhat appears on page 36.
Seriously, Phog, I think this is a great article
that should pull unlimited inquiries direct to
you. I am anxiously waiting for the turn of events
following this first general publicity of this type
in a paper with the standing of the Athletic Jour-
nal.
Kindest regards.

Yours very truly,

FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO.
oe eit Feo Manager
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MANUFACTURING Co.

 

 

 

POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS SAINT LovIis, Mo.
R. E. WEINZETTEL December 6, 1939

SALES PROMOTION MANAGER

Dr. Forrest C. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phogs

Just returned from San Antoio where I attended the Texas State Teachers Conven=
tion immediately following the Virginia State Education Convention in Richmond
the previous week, and at both of these state-wide shows we exhibited Goal-Hi in
a special booth that we constructed for that purpose, and I am glad to advise that
we’ obtained some orders at each place — not many but a few - and in addition we
found an extreme amount of interest on the part of the school people contacted, in
this new game which has been described as the first mass play-game since volley-
ball. Incidentally, I think that is a pretty good description of Goal-Hi as it
certainly is likely to becane a game that schools of all kinds and sizes can play
with large groups participating as a gym or playground activity.

Thought you would be interested in the foregoing. The purpose of this letter,
however, is to suggest that you give some thought to coming over to St. Louis for
the N.E.A. Convention in February (February 2)\-29) at our expense, and possibly
lend a hand in putting over this story to the ten or twelve thousand school super-
intendents who attend this largest-of-all school conventions. At that time we
could, of course, discuss some things that may be on our minds. In any event I
would like to have you give some thought to this idea,which came to me a few days
ago, and let me know your reaction to same.

Another thing comes to light at this time, now that we have some orders waiting

to be shipped, and that is the question of handling our account with you. I refer
to the problem of setting up a record of Goal-Hi sales for the purpose of deter-
mining your royalty or commission. According to our contract you are entitled to
5% on the net f.o.b. St. Louis price of the various standards, some of which are
sold direct to the user at the regular list price, and some of which, as you know,
will be sold through dealers, who will earn a selling commission of 30%, which
means that the list prices in the catalog Bill Robinson gave you will be discounted
30% to such dealers to arrive at the net f.o.b. St. Louis price. Naturally freight
is to be deducted fran that net price, and on the remaining amount you will earn
your 5%. Our Auditing Department advises me that this is going to be a little com-
plicated and I have checked carefully into this matter, Phog, and am wondering if
it would be agreeable with you if we substituted a new basis of remuneration for
you as follows.

On all standards sold direct to the cmsumer at full list price, we would allow you
a straight $1./,0 royalty commission. On all sales made through dealers, who have
earned a 30% selling commission, we would allow you a straight royalty commission
of $1.00 per standards

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ag FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO.

Dr. Forrest C. Allen
Lawrence, Kansas

The above suggestion calls for a little give-and-take on both sides, with the
Company giving by far the most of the few cents involved between the straight
5% and the suggested compensation mentioned above. For example, on No. 907
standard as listed in the catalog in your possession at $29.50, which would be
the price that would apply if sold direct to the user without an agent or sales-
man entering the picture, except for the fact that freight would be deducted

(we will ignore freight for the moment and just apply the 5% royalty commission
to the $29.50 figure), you would earn, under the old 5% basis, $1.7. On our
suggested change-over we would pay you $1.0.

On the sale of this same standard through a dealer at $29.50 less 30%, or at a
net price of $20.65 (again not considering the freight for the sone’) you would
earn, on the basis of 5%, $1.03, as compared to our proposal of paying you a
straight royalty commission of $1.00.

Swinging over to the less expensive Goal-Hi standards, our No. 918, No. 919, No.
920, und No. 917, yow royalty commission at a straight 5% on a $21.75 price,
would be $1.08 as compared to the $1.10 we are prepared to pay you. And if these
same numbers were sold through a dealer your commission on the basis of a net cost
of $15.23 (list less 30% selling commission) would be 76 cents as compared to the
$1.00 we offer you.

You understand that in no case have I deducted the freight from the St. Louis
prices, which would, of course, be done if you hold to the contract as it now
exists between us.

Frankly, Phog, I am hopeful that you will accept this proposition. I think it is
favorable toyou and it would certainly simplify our auditing problem if we credited
you with a flat sum of either $1.40 or $1.00 per standard, regardless of any other
factors. Will you please give this some consideration and let me hear from you

at your early convenience? I think it hardly necessary to tell you that we would
not offer this counter proposition to you if we did not think it was equitable to
you and worth the slight difference in commission in your favor without a compen-
sating factor in the way of our auditing expense. (Incidentally, I also think it
hardly necessary to point to the fact that our books are always open to you for an
audit at any time you should consider such a move necessary. We have been in busi-
ness for about 67 years and our 80 or more sales representatives have had ample
reas ms to place confidence in us just as we believe you will have in us as our
association develops.

Kindest regards.
Yours very truly,

FRED MEDART MANUF.

   
 
 
 

Frémotion Manager
REW/AC
This will acknowledge reseipt of your letter of
the 25rd instant concerning the details of Goal-jii
sales and comtssi ose

Ag expleimed by you, the original comtract bo~
tween us will stand as executed, which is perfectly
agreeable with nee

Very sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,
Vareity Dasketimll Conche

 
FRED MEDART
MANUFACTURING Co.

 

 

 

POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS SAINT Louis, Mo.

R. E. WEINZETTEL
SALES PROMOTION MANAGER Dec ember 22, 1939

Dr. Forrest GC. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phog:

Since writing you under date of December 6 suggesting a change in
the contract between you and the Company as concerns the royalty
commission on Goal-Hi sales, our Auditing Department has completed
the mechanics necessary to handle all details ¢onnected with Goal-
Hi sales and payment of your commissions, and advise me that the
original thought of a complicated method of computing your commis-—
Sion has been eliminated, and as a result, we will let the orig-
inal contract between us stand as executed by both parties.

Consequently, we will ignore our letter of December 6, which you
acknowledged under date of December 11, and continue to work on
the basis of our contract.

Shortly after the first of the year we will give you an accounting
to date, and beginning January 1 we will start paying you on the
quarterly basis, per our agreement.

Please acknowledge this, Phog, merely as a detail to bring our rec-
ords up to date.

Incidentally, I noticed in this morning's paper that Washington beat
that" friendly-enemy" team of yours from Columbia, last night. It
looked like it might have been a good game and I would liked to have
seen it. I have your schedule before me as covered on the card you
sent me, and am sorry you have no games scheduled in St. Louis as it
would be nice to be on the sidelines cheering for K.U.

Kindest personal regards.

Cordially yours,
FRED NEDART MANUFAGTURING CO.

 

REW /AC

STEEL LOCKERS___ STEEL WARDROBES____STEEL SHELVING___-GYMNASIUM APPARATUS____GYM SEATS____ BASKETBALL BACKSTOPS____PLAYGROUND APPARATUS
Recreation,

Reed are close personal friends

to them will be
anything I say

I
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FRED MEDART
MANUFACTURING Co.

 

 

 

POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS SAINT Logis: Mo.

R. E. WEINZETTEL

SALES PROMOTION MANAGER December Ts 1939

Dr. Forrest C. Allen
University of Kansas
lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phog:

Have your letter of December 6 with enclosures covering your letters to
two individuals connected with the Crowell Publishing Company of Phila-
delphia.

Needless to say, we are upset over the report Tom Bowlus gave us regard-
ing the uncomplimentary article reported as scheduled for the Saturday
Evening Post and we have been spending the best part of the past 2; hours
trying to figure out a way to combat such publicity.

The concensus over here is that we had better wait until this article ap-
pears and then take a firm stand in the way of defending the game as one
which has a real place in the play and sports world. More about this
latter, but it seems to me that you would be the logical person to de-
fend this position to other editors whom we believe would be interested
in obtaining your viewpoint in the way of a rebuttal to whatever state-
ments may be included in the Saturday Evening Post article. let us let
this rest for the moment unless you get some reply from your two letters
to Philadelphia which indicate that something could be done toward ac-
quainting the Saturday Evening Post with the facts as all of us see them.

Incidentally, I notice in your letter to Mr. Reed and Mr. Hibbs that you
refer to the fact that Goal-Hi was designed primarily for the playgroum.
We think this game is as much an indoor gymnasium game as it is an outdoor
playground game, and I give you this thought for possible future reference.
At the several State Teachers Conventios where we exhibited our Goal-Hi
display, we found as much interest on the part of gym instructors &@ we
did with people concerned with playground activity. Besides, the story as
we tell it, i.e., that Goal-Hi can be played indoors as well as outdoors,
throughout the year, is better served when we refer to the game as not
only a playground game but one that can be engaged in by entire gym classes,
etc.

Incidentally, Phog, I would appreciate learming from you just what your con-
nection may be with Mr. Hibbs and also Mr. Reed. I note you address them
by their first names, which indicates that you enjoy a close acquaintance
with both, and if you care to give me that information I would like to know

STEEL LOCKERS___ STEEL WARDROBES____ STEEL SHELVING____GYMNASIUM APPARATUS____GYM SEATS____ BASKETBALL BACKSTOPS___-_PLAYGROUND APPARATUS
FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO.

#e
Dr. Forrest C. Allen
Lawrence, Kansas

just what the connection is, and what part these two gentlemen play in the
publishing of the Saturday Evening Post.

Kindest regards.

Cordially yours,

FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO.

ales Promotion Manager

REW /AC
FRED MEDART
MANUFACTURING Co.

 

 

 

POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS SAINT Louris, Mo.

_ E. WEINZETTEL
sien Bo sch MANAGER December il, 1949

Dr. Forrest C. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phog:;

I notice that you have referred to us several times in con-
nection with letters written concerning publicity (for ex-

ample, the letters you wrote the Saturday Evening Post) as

the manufacturers of the Goal-Hi equipment.

I believe it would be in order to suggest that you discontinue
making any mention of us in the future when you have occasion
to write along these lires, and thus avoid anything in the way
of the commercial angle.

You understand, Phog, that I am referring merely to those let-
ters that may have something to do with editorial matters. You
will, of course, refer to us, as you have been doing, when a
prospect writes, but we believe you will see the logic of this
suggestion if you will give a little thought to the possible
reaction of editors“the reference to us when discussing publi-
city.
Kindest regards.

Cordially yours,

FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO.

S romg¥vion Manager

REW/AC
Enc.

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FRED MEDART
MANUFACTURING Co.

 

 

 

POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS SAINT LoulIs, Mo.

apts curon HAAG December 22 3 193 9

Dr. Forrest C. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phog:

Have you had any word from your friends in Phila-
delphia who are connected with the Crowell Pub—
lishing Company (Saturday Evening Post)?

Naturally we are extremely interested in learning
what kind of an article, and the size of it, in
support or against Goal-Hi, will appear in this
outstanding magazine.
Please accept my best wishes for a very Happy Holi-
day Season; and also, Phog, please remember me in
the same way to the other members of your family.
Kindest regards.

Cordially yours,

FRED MEDABT MANUFACTURING CO.

  
 

es Prgmotion Manager

REW/AC

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STATE OF MICHIGAN

DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION
EUGENE B. ELLIOTT, SUPERINTENDENT 7

    
 

 

December 18, 1939

  

    
 

“E. FORSYTHE, DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS

MICHIGAN HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION

Fred Medart Manufacturing Co.
Potomac and DeKalb Streets
St. Louis, Missouri

Attention: R. E. Weinzettel

 

Gentlemen:
The folders which you forwarded to Mr. Riskey at Ann —-
Arbor were placed on a table at the disposal of coaches om

and officials who desired to take them. In addition to

that I indicated that there was a chance for them to

express their opinions concerning the convex backboard fa
and urged that they send them in to you. I realize that ~>
possibly not very many of them have done so but there a ee
seemed to be a very favorable reaction to the new type ne
board. I also explained it and commented concerning it

at seven Regional meetings which we held in the northern

part of Michigan with the result that probably three

hundred additional men kmow about the new type board.

Yours truly, wy

C. E. Forsythe