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October 25, 1944.

Mr. Jack Carberry,
The Denver Post,
Denver, Colorado.

Dear Jacks

I am enclosing a copy of a wire that I sent Lawton Carver after
he had written his facetious story on Mayor LaGuardia and "Phog" Allen.

I do not want you to use my personal letter to you in the press,
but you are welcome to use the wire that I have sent him and the statement
that I made about the gambling fraternity's anastamoses in the college
life from other than a direct athletic angle. I will say more on this in
a minute. i

In 1940 we played St. Bonaventure's in Buffalo, Fordham in
Madison Square Garden, and St, Joseph's in Philadelphia. All of these
schools, of course, were under the direction of the Garden management,
Ned Irish gave the many sport writers a complimentary luncheon at Ted
Shore's restaurant. Of course we were there among a great number of
other coaches. I said in public to the writers that we came for the cash
and the trip. I was baldly frank about the thing because that was the
only reason we came, and we made a tidy sum. We found Ned Irish one of
the finest hosts and one of the best business men with whom we have ever
come in contact. Although I have often wondered why college men sould
not run their own tournaments, it certainly is a reflection on the college
management to think that we have to have a professional promoter to run
our tournaments. But the professionals have done it in so much better
manner than any of the college people, that it is a refleotion on college
personnel, , ,

_ I read your paper quoting what Ned Irish had to say about the
investigatiof ofthese men. After they investigated these men they did
not play any more games with the school that they had previously partici-
pated with. That doesn't look as if their skirts were clean. And further~
more, the coach had to go out and get several high school stars to reinforce
his team for his other games. This school happened to be one of the
schools that played in the N.C.A.A. tournament. So it is queer that they
did not permit the boys to play after they investigated them, |
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I, like you, have no desire to expose the names, but it doesn't
seem as if Mr. Irish’s explanation is complete. And my statement has
consistently been that I do not want to punish any of the boys but I am
trying to call attention to certain irregularities that would be corrected
very definitely if we had a czar of intercollegiate athleties, He would
work with college and university authorities to see that the sinister head
of the gambler was not raised in college athletic activities.

Now, a little explanation in regard to this sports writer or
writers on college papers. I am sure that you are well acquainted with
i ee oe” ee ee ee
in every college town. Drugstores, barber shops, pool halls, grills, are
the plaves where the bets could be laid. The gambler contacts these boys
who work for the college paper. The boys then naturally get in contact
with their fraternity brothers or other associates who have the inside
contact with the football or basketball team. Then the grapevine goes
it 4 ‘Wan. peered wieiteee wal Wa Gadd eet Sarntehes Ske amar
with the lowdown and these boys are paid according to the accuracy of
their information and the success of their prediction.

+

This is another angle and there are more that have not been exe
er ee oe ee ee I am
conveying this to you exclusively to use as you see fit. JT mean, of course,
the statement regarding the ramification on of the infiuenes of he prefession-
al gambler. I do not want my letter to you printed lpn tae Spe gon gg
So eins tiie staciesiiln Gad Gateddind then be as you see fit and give them to
ee eee ee, Ins.

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the editors would not permit any of their employees to give this inform-
ation, but they clandestinely work with the students, and the university
authorities, the professors of journalism, and so forth, have no way of
eracking down because they would have to prove some of their beliefs,
while the editor of a tow paper is the boss of his establishment and car
issue orders and the employees must of necessity follow them. But you can
see how a student can act without any of the university authorities crack-
ing dewn on hin.

If there ie anything you do not understand about this angle be-
fore you use it, please wire me or call me and I will elaborate upon it.
There is one instance here in Lawrence, Kansas, where last year the
genblers were taken for a heavy ride by the parlay players and the
gamblers folded their teat and left town without paying any of their
gambling dehts, and it ran way up into the thousands.

I am amazed to see how gullible are the boys who ee
Tt ot ee as Oe a ee ee the establish-
ment and feel that they will get their monsy back. In this case the
gamblers walked out and the boys who received the bets said, I am sorry.
They were broke and couldn't pay their bets + oe % could the men do who
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ASA S. BUSHNELL, Executive Director

October 25, 1944

Dr. forrest C. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phog:
This will merely serve as an appreciative acknowledge-
ment of the receipt of your interesting letter of O[ctober

23, together with its several enclosures.

I am planning, at very first opportunity, to forward to
you the very full reply which this communication deserves.

 

Asa S. Bushnell

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COPY

October 24, 1944

Dear Mr. Allen:

I am behind your recent charges pertaining to college basket-
ball 100%. Unfortunately I cannot reveal my identity but what I have to say
substantiates the accusations you made.

Dur@ng last basketball season two members of Temple University's
team were approached by a Mr. Jack Lynch, who operates a night club at the
Walton Roof of this city. The two players were Albie Ingerman and Dick Koecher,
both freshmen, They were offered $500.00 each to throw a game that was being
played at Convention Hall and presented by Ned Irishe

Dick Koecher, a trustworthy and conscientious lad, went home
to tell his father about the offer whereupon the latter notified Josh Cody,
coach of Temple. The night of the game Albie Ingerman was closely watched and

it was apparent that he was not playing his best. After the game Ingerman was
suspended.

I believe, but am not sure, that the game was against °
Muhlenberg College.

This Mr. Lynch is a noted racketeer who has been kicked out of
all our eastern horse racing parks. He operates a basketball pool and quotes
certain odds on different games.

This mtter was kept from publicity although one local
reporter from the Philadelphia Daily news threw some hint on ite

Yours for clean sports.

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(Postmarked Philadelphia, Pas, Oct. 24, 1944, 7:30 peme)

 
 

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LTHOUGH the voice of Dr.
-*% Forrest C. (Phog). Allen of
Kansas University, is frequently
raised in warning, his is a voice
-. erying in the wilderness. Dr.
». Phog keeps reminding the coun-
try of the dangers besetting col-
lege athletics and while no one
«denies the existence of the
<e dangers, no one seems inclined to

ee take the needed steps to guard | '

© against them.
» - Unless something is done about
- © it, Dr. Phog is‘much afraid that
%. the college athletic structure will
be toppled by scandal. The two
sports he is concerned about are
x» foot ball and basket ball. Heavy
gambling on these games is
bound, sooner or later, to de-
velop crooked competition, he
. thinks. The professional gam-
» .blers have already caused two
«wv “boys to throw basket ball games
in eastern collegiate tournaments,

according to Dr. Phog.
* *

ay Coaches Fear

ee HILE Dr, Allen is a basket
‘* © ¥ pall coach, and one of the
‘© best, he has a considerable
knowledge of foot ball as well.
The danger to foot ball is more
pronounced than the danger to

basket ball for the reason that’

- much more money is wagered on
. foot pallc, :- s

“The gambling angle has
_ worried many foot ball coaches.
“- "They are not concerned with the
~~ Joyal alumni bets, that are
prompted by sentiment, but the

- ‘wagering of professionals. _
Sentiment never enters into

’ the calculations of the professional

ambler. .He feasts on the sen-
timental alumni. He cashes in
on their loyalty. '
The professional gambler safe-
guards his bets as far as he can.
He is a sure-thing operator to
the limit of his ability and his
-& ability knows no moral limits.
He would not hesitate a second
- if he had a chance to “buy” a
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October 24, 1944

Lawton Carver,
Sports Editor,
International News Service,
New York, N.Y.

Your statement that I have bat#eldown is untrue. I stated that
certain eastern writers have minimized the gambling hazard, and
your story prompts me to believe that you are one of them As
far as my getting out of the game I am in is concerned, I suggest
you apply the same yardstick to yourself in your professions

What could you lmow of how much basketball has given me?

Forrest C, Allen

 
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Mr. Jack Carberry,
Sports Editor,
Denver Post,
Denver, Colorado.

Dear Jack:

shed tad ee get yeh ibdbide Totter af the S00 Garten.
I will answer your letter and give you some additional data at my
first opportunity. As newly elected president of the Lawrence
Country Club, I am initiating a number of improvements cut there
which has taken a lot of my immediate time. However, I will have
this under control in a day or so and will write you a rather
lengthy and informative letter.

I think I can say without fear that John Q. Public's eye
has been opened no end, and these boys who are sure that everything
is hotsy-totsy will awaken to find that the better periodicals and
newspapers will not soon forget some of the cautioning that has
gute out tomrd te guubling civuse of tasketball in large arene.

, There is some information that I eamot pass on to you at
present, but it is really good.

I have never doubted 3111 Greim's honesty. Certainly any-

thing that he has to do is bound to be on the up and up, but I have
no conf idence iin the national administration of the AAU.

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physigal Fducation,
PCA :AH Varsity Basketball Coach.
 

P. S. In my next letter which will go to you very shortly I will
give you some further light on the N.C.A.A. Asa Bushnell, Executive
Director of the Central Office for Eastern Intercollegiate Athletios,
wrote me a pretty pointed letter and then I sent him a copy of the
letter that I had written Sam Smith with only one amplification, and
that was an explanation that when I said the commissioners were no
good I meant without power to do anything about the vital things that
are endangering athletics.

Will write you in a few days.

FCA.
  
 

So the People may Know

THE DENVER POST

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emertil Oct. 25, 1944

Dre Forrest ¢. Allen,
Lawrence, Kan.

Dear "Phog":

I don't know when I have had so much fun. The
fact that you are so right makes the fun worthwhile. I doubt
if you know how right you are, in some of the things that have
come out, in part.

Two years ago George Knorr, a resident of our
Globeville--that's over the tracks, in the Pblish section--took
a fighter to New York, one Reuben Shank. He came home to tell
us how The Garden told him how much he had to pay to each of the
sports writers. He named names” I sent that information on
to sources in New York where I hoped it would get some action.

But George Knorr was just a lone individual--a
Globevillite, to be exact--and all I got was “pish” and "tush”",,.

and “he is dreaming”. You can kiss off the George Knorrs and
nothing can do done about it* Now the blow comes from where
it hurts.

What I would like to know is this? The sports
writers, almost without exception, speak of "reports" and
"suspicions" relative to the Garden situation. They say they
tmentioned” this, from time to time. The newspaper
profession has fallen to low estate when, with "reports” and
"hints" running that wild that a newspaperman does not go out
and track it down. |

Let me say this: fhe A. A. U. here is free from
that sort of thing. I would like to hear a report of that kind
in connection with the National that I--and our entire staff,
including all the investigators we possess, both in and out of the
sports department--would not investigate to its every foundation.
The A. A. U. here is kept clean---it is because if it got an eigth.
of an inch out of line everybody knows THE DENVER POST would blast
whoever was responsible out of existance. Those things don't
happen if there is a vigilant press.

 

 

It Is Imperative that you address
all communications to The Denver
Post, and Not to individuals.

 

  

 

 
 
   

 

What I would like to see now is as many as possible
in the N.C.A.A. group, named in the enclosed ppopf sheet
of a recent column, express themselves on the matters
mentioned there :

I do not believe the fathers and mothers of this land
want their kids exposed to the temptations surrounding ©
--admittedly surrounding--college clubs that go into The
Garden. ) ee

I do not know what Harry Carlson is going to say but it So 6.
should be good. Harry gets pretty academic in his writings, —
put he has a darn good punch if he will throw 1 ty ae oe

I wish you could be here for the opening of our Victory
League basketball season, Monday Dec. 11. We will have a
very fine loop this year with five army instalations-- — eo
Buckley and Lowry Fields, Fort Logan, Fitzsimons hospital and _
Fort Warren (Wyoming) plus Ambrose & Co,, boasting Jack =
McCracken and Ace Gruenig. This 1Sop plays a mighty fine _
brand of ball--once a week in town and once on post, the
latter games free for service men. It is strictly non-
profit, civic minded citizens doing the work and anything
that is made going into simple awards for the players anda |
whale of a nice party at the end, Se ee

It does wonders for the game here.

We will also have a Junior Victory league this year with
not less than 3,000 boys and 1,000 girls playing ina regular
schedule--fully uniformed and all that, Your old friend
Bill Greim sets this up and his assistant Jack Evans runs it,
and turns in a whale of a job. We take some money out of
the A.A.Us. to Help. We see eye-toeye on the A.A.U.. |
nationally, but for the last three years the Rocky Mountain
section has been turning in a great job, spending money to
foster sports. 3 a

Can you stri@ up some of the "NAMES" within the N.C.A.A.?
 

 

 

 

 

 

HAT’S a beautiful ne ‘Phog’’ Allen has aed
Like everybody else, standing along the sidelines of Pier
Six, I am enjoying the brawl, no end. Whether or not the

good doctor of physical education at Kansas U. proves his

charges of ‘‘thrown games’’ in Madison Square Garden—and
Allen, according to pews. association reports, has telegraphed names to
Madison Square’s Ned Irish—he has, from all evidence in so far, put his
finger on something mighty sericus.

Suppose we just leave “Phog” out of this entirely.

Let us take the experience of Vadal Peterson, coach of Utah uni-
versity’s N. C. A. A. Invitational champion while in New York. Let
us add to that the experiences of Ev Shelton and Hilton Davis of
Wyoming when they took the Cowboys back to the Garden.

These esperiences have bee: set out in detail in these columns

in past days. You know how beth clubs lived in an atmosphere in

which it was necessary to have the rooms occupied by the players

guarded by minions of the law st all times; how Peterson had to
have the telephones cut off f:c:a his team’s quarters; how, accord-
ing to Buddy Hassett of Georgetown U.—Wyoming’s opponent—

(as quoted by Shelton) a proposition was made to two Georgetown

players, Krauts and Mahnken.

Then read Lawton Carver, International News Service sports editor,
in this issue of THE POST—A witness against Allen, by the way—who
' nevertheless tells how Madison Square is infested by gamblers, cluttering
the aisles “bickering and dickering” over sports events.

HERE is a body called the National Collegiate Athletic association—
the N. C. A. A. It is headed by Prof. Philip O. Badger, assistant to
the chancellcr of New York university. Its secretary-treasurer is Maj.
John L. Griffith, conference commissioner of the Big Ten. Its vice presi-
dents are John M. Harmson, Boston U.; William A. Read, Colgate; Dean
A. W. Hobhs, University of North Carolina: Prof. George L. Rider, Miami
U.; H. H. King, Kansas State; Prof. J. S. McIntosh, Southern Methodist;

Watch for This; It Will Be Good!

Mr. Jack Carberry, Sports Editor
DENVER POST.

. Dear Jack: This is to follow up my press wire sent you Friday
night. I am very much interested in the many different questions
‘raised by Dr. Forrest Allen’s letter and am planning to write at
some length in an attempt to cover most of them. I am leaving
‘for the east and will not be back until Oct. 30, which means that |
‘I cannot send you my full opinions until about that time. Mean-
while, suffice it to say that Dr. Allen has hit at some of the basic
difficulties of intercollegiate athletics, and I want to congratulate
you on airing these ideas thru the offices of your paper.

Sincerely yours,
HARRY CARLSON,
Dean of Men and Athletic Direc-
‘tor of the University of Colorado.

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Prof. John W. Clmsted, U. C. L. A., and Prof O. L. Troxel of our own :
Colorado Aggi

 
The members at large are Col. L. McC. Jones of the U. S. Military
academy, Norton Prichett of the University of Virginia, Dean L. K.°
Neidlinger of Dartmouth, Prof. H. C. Willett of U. S. C., Prof: L. W. St.
John of Ohio State, Dr. Harry A. Scott of Rice and Capt. John E. Whel-
chel of the U. S. Naval academy.

' Its executive committee is composed of our own President T. J.*
Davies of Colcrado College, Prof. William B. Cwens of Stanford, Ogden D..
Miller of Yale, Prof. Karl E. Leib of Iowa U., Wilbur C. Smith’ of Tulane’
and ‘Clarence P. Houston of Tufts.

Asa 8S. Bushnell of Princeton is its acting divestor.

Mighty men—mighty names, these!

This association has a creed—a code to which every basketball coach”
in every one of its schools subscribes.

I quote from that creed:

“I believe that the proper administration of this sport (basket- .
ball) offers an effective laboratory method to develop in its ad-
herents high ideals of sportsmanship; qualities of co-operation,:
courage, unselfishness and self-control; DESIRES FOR CLEAN,
HEALTHFUL LIVING, and respect for wise discipline and’
authority.

- “{ believe that basketball has an important place in the gen-:
eral educational scheme and pledge myself to co-operate with others’

in the field of education to so administer it that its value will never

be questioned.”

\

URELY none of the gentlemen named above, or anyone else, will be»
S so beld as to say that the experiences—remember, we are leaving
“Phog” Allen completely out of this picture—of the Rocky Mountain par-

ticipants in N C. A. A. activities in New York, tended to, as the creed
puts it, ‘“develop—a desire (on the part of college boys) FOR CLEAN,
HEALTHFUL LIVING.”

What, may I ask, were the “dicks” doing guarding their doors?

Why were the telephones cut off?

Here’s one the N. C. A. A. can’t walk away from.

T MAKES not one iota of difference, the way we see it, what may or.

‘may not have occurred in the past, relative to the “throwing” of
games. If, under the setup, as described, not by Allen, but by the
sympathetic Carver in his article of this date—his picture of the scene:
at Madison Square, with the Broadway mob dominating that scene—
games have not already been “thrown” the greater the surprise.

Who are these kids who have to be guarded, by detectives, in their -
hotel rooms; whose telephones have to be served; who, despite this,
receive calls offering them money? Go back to the colleges from which
they came. Many—the great majority, I would say—are what can best
be called ‘poor men’s sons.” “Rich men’s sons,’ for the most part, do
not attend the colleges whose teams, over the years, have played in
Madison Square, and the big money tournaments. Many—a great, great
many—are boys working their way thru school. We've been into that
before, out here. We can name names, for anybody who wants them,
of boys, playing on college teams, within our own Big Seven conference,
who have gone into contests actually hungry. We know kids who have
lived, thru athletic seascns, when they could not devote time to jobs and
still keep their places on the athletic units, who lived on hamburgers—
and there were times when they didn’t have the price of even these.

 
It stands as a monument, indeed, to American youth—to American
college youth—that boys so situated have had the qualities which have
given them the courage to face the temptations which admittedly
surround them in the atmosphere as described—not by Allen, remember,
but by Carver.

* 7 *

VERYBODY is praiseful of Ned Irish and for all he has done’ for’

basketball. This New York sports writer did, without doubt, put
the cage game on “the big time” as it has been stated. It is very “big
time” now—a regular circuit in which college boys are used as performers
in a series of stands, exactly as are touring professionals, theatrical
companies and such. This circuit extends outward from the Garden to:
Buffalo and Philadelphia—towns in which the visitors to the Garden are®
built up for their Broadway appearance.

But that isn’t college athletics.

If Madison Square and its branches want to run this kind of
a show then let. Madison Square set up a pro league, just as foot-
ball has set up its pro league. /

Then let basketball, as does football and baseball, have its czar,
capable of handling the New York situation.

Personally this department is not concerned in the slightest with
Allen’s charge that “GAMES ALREADY HAVE BEEN THROWN.”
The past, in that respect, is the past. I hope and trust that Ned Irish
will not release the names demanded by him, and according to the news
associations, supplied by Allen. This would do no good whatever.

What is needed is for the gentlemen named above to sit down in
council right now, as the 1944-45 season approaches, and do the only
honest, decent thing basketball—college basketball—can do.

Give the game hack to the colleges—and the college kids.

Let Madison Square, if it wants to, set up its pro league as did
football, and before it baseball.

I, for ene, wouldn’t want a kid of mine being kissed by a New

York gambler who just won $15,000 on his basket—nor would I

want that kid living thru his pregame hours in rooms around

which it was necessary to throw cordons of detectives with sev-
ered telephone connections, and men coming to doors asking “how
much?” to throw the contest.
_ A little honesty—athletic honesty—by the men at the head of
N. ¢. A. A. and the basketball scandal of 1944 will be forgotten.

Failure to act and the things ‘“Phog’’ Allen predicts will happen

as svre as today is Monday.

 

 
 

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PHILADELPHIA, Pa., NOVEMBER 21, 1944

DR. FORREST C,-ALLEN

DIRECTOR OF PHYSICAL FDUCATION
VARSITY BASKETBALL COACH
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS,
LaWRENCE, KANS,

DeaR DR. ALLEN:

YOUR LETTER OF NOVEMBER STH HAS BEEN RECEIVED, TOGETHER WITH THE CARBON COPIES OF Mr, SMITH'S
LETTER OF SEPTEMBER 6TH, YOUR ANSWER OF SEPTEMBER 22ND AND THE ANSWER OF THE MADISON SQUARE
GARDEN CORPORATION DATED OCTOBER 24TH. THESE WERE CERTAINLY VERY INTERESTING AND REST
»SSURED THEY ARE RECEIVED BY THE WRITER IN THE SAME CONFIDENCE WITH WHICGN YoU SENT THEM.

| HaVE NOTHING FURTHER IN THE WAY OF EVIDENCE IN THE CASE BUT THAT WHICH WE ARE BOTH FAMILIAR
WITH, BUT | BELIEVE | MAY BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE SOME CONCRETE FACTS FOR you, HOWEVER, AT THIS
TIME ALL | WANT TO DO 19 TEAR DOWN A BIT THE LETTER OF NeD IRISH.

HE STATES THAT THE RUMOR WAS DISCREDITED COMPLETELY IN THE PHILADELPHIA NEWSPAPERS. | AM AN
ARDENT READER OF THE SPORTING PAGES OF EVERY PHILADELSIA NEWSPAPER AND | DO NOT REMEMBER SEEING
ANY STATEMENT OF ANY SPORTS WRITER DISCREDITING THIS RUMOR, THE ONLY THING THAT APPEARED AT ALL
AFTER THE GAME WAS A STATEMENT THAT ONE OF THE MEN HAD INJURED HIS SHOULDER 1N THE GAME AND
WOULD BE UNABLE TO PLAY FOR SEVERAL MORE WEEKS AND THE OTHER CHAP IN QUESTION HAD PLAYED WITH A
HIGH FEVER AND WOULD BE UNABLE TO PLAY ANY MORE DUE T) BEING DRAFTED IN THE Navy, [| RECALL NO
OTHER STATEMENT BEING PUBLISHED IN THE PHILADELPHIA PAPERS ABOUT THE ENTIRE MATTER.

| DO KNOW HOWEVER, THAT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE GAME (WHICH THE WRITER ATTENDED) AMONG MANY OF
THE SO CALLED "SPORTING FRATERNITY" THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF BETS OF SEVERAL THOUSAND
DOLLARS MADE BY CERTAIN MEN. BEFORE THE MALL WaS CLEARED OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, THE WORDS “PAY OFF?
WERE BEING USED QUITE COMMONLY, OF COURSE, ONE CANNOT INDICT A PERSON ON HEARSAY EVIDENCE SUCH AS
THIS AND LIKE YOURSELF, | BELIEVE THE FAULT 1S WITH THE SYSTEM AND NOTHING ELSE.

[| ONLY WROTE YOU AND THE SPORTS WRITERS ABOUT THIS ENTIRE MATTER BECAUSE | DID NOT THINK IT WAS
FAIR TO YOU (EVEN THOUGH | HAVE NEVER MET YOU) TO TAKE A BLASTING FROM THESE SPORTS WRITERS
CLAIMING THAT YOU ONLY CAUSED ALL THIS DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THE vos OF
"CZAR" OF BASKETBALL, [| DIDN'T EVEN RECEIVE THE COURTESY OF A REPLY FROM ANY OF THE THREE
WRITERS, ALTHOUGH en | DID NOT EXPECT ONE.

IF AT ANY TIME THERE 1S ANYTHING | CAN DO TO HELP YOU IN YOUR ENDEAVOR ALONG THESE LINES,
PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE, BUT FEEL FREE TO GALL UPON ME AT ANY TIME.

ANTICIPATING THE PLEASURE OF SOME DAY MAKING YOUR ACQUAINTANCE, THE WRITER BE@S TO REMAIN,
YouRS VERY TRULY,

LEONARD ORMAN

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I am enclosing a letter from Sam Smith, United press sports editor
in Kansas City, Mo. Sam, a Wissow'l mam, wrote me for a basketball yarn. I
try to accomodate the boys when I oan. On September 22 I dictated a letter
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oan am sending this cerrespomlense also for your perusal.
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November 8, 1944.

Mr. James A. McFarland,
110 = 35 ~ 72 Road,
Forest Hills,

Long Islend, New York.

Dear Mre MeParland:

sit has Shien teas Sita thinned anee Neteae teens Soil
of appreciation of the seme. On the other hand, I deeply regard your
fine statements. It is most unusual to find a man who will write a
letter as you did and sign his name. Certainly I will not use it in
any public way, but it gives me courage to do a better job when I find
wo have mon like you who follow sport for the love of the game.

I am sending you confidentially a sopy of my letter in reply
to Ned Irish's letter to me of October 24, TI am also senjing you a
copy of the letter that he wrote me. I want you to know that he hay
failed to make a case with me. And in confidence you and I can enjoy
the faulty camouflage put forth.

I hope some time to have the pleasure of meeting you.

Sincerely yours,

| Director of Physical Education,
PCA:AH Varsity Basketball coach.

 
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