‘| May 9, 1939 To Members, National Basketball Committee; PLEASE ANSWER The diagram below is an attempt to crystallize the sentiments expressed by com- mittee members relative to a modified backboard. The cut-out below the basket ring is contingent on developing a basket which will fasten to the lower edge of the board with braces to the 3 inch fly. ‘As a guide for experimentation ond for inclusion in the almanac section, would you sanction such a size and shape? TO KBEP YOU POSTED Ihe editor and Secretary labored in the wee hours in the days following the meet- ing to fit the jigesaw modifications into a bug-proof picture (We hope). Copy for the summer school edition is now in the hands of the printer. In ten days or two weeks, each member will receive book with the ink still wet. * * * # No special effort is being made to advertise the summer school edition. Each member may choose to pass the word along to coaching schools in his locality. Would-be purchasers may write the National Federation, 11 South LaSalle 5t., Chicago. The price will be 20¢ per copy or $1.65 per dozen copics. * * * * The Play Situations Book will be ready about Juno lst. Yours truly, Nee Secretary HVP/3 ANNUAL MEETING OF THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL COMMITTEE OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA McAlpin Hotel, New York May 1 and 2, 1939 Members Present; Representing the N.C.A.A. FP. Cy Allensccccecccccccccccceseess University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas John Bumtisccccccccsccsevccvvcccccessentanford University, Palo Alto, California Forpest COKXesceccccscvectceccesecsnesCOlorato Uni vera ty, Boulder, Colorado Swiwer A. DolesscsscocscetsvecesecesssCormectiont State College, Storrs, Connecticut He Ge Olsenececcccccscccesssesecesedhio State University, Columbus, Ohio Curtis Parker.sccccecccccccssccccseseecentennary College, Shreveport, Louisiana Jo W . St. Clair.sccccecccceccceesssSouthern Methodist University, Dallas, Texas H, He Salmon, dresecceccceceoesseeee40 Wall St., New York, New York Member at Large: Oswald ToweresescoseccccccsseseeseecAndover, Massachusetts Representing the National Federation Me Ce Cunninghams....eeeecseeceeeeesHigh School, Desloge, Missouri (NOT PRESENT) Frank P. Maguire. ceccscccccceceeeveDopt. of Pyblic Instruction, Harrisburg, Penn. He Ve PotbOP cues cecuvicesescesseeesdl Sogth batalio Gt-, Chicego, Illinois Floyd A. RowOseccecceseeesseceeeeee Board of Education, Cleveland, Ohio Representing the Y.M.C.A. Jolen BrOWicccesscdesecedccccceesesce47 Madison Ave., New York, “ew Tork Jo Mark GoodesccccccccccccveccevesssSun-Gazette Coe, Villiamsport, Pemsylvania B, J, HickoxesccccccccccccesceveeessSpringfield Colle:e, Springfield, Massachusetts Representing the Canadian I.A.U. Je He. CrockorsesccscccececcceseseeeoUniversity of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, 5 Canada Representing the Canadian A.A. Ae Fe JofferosSecccccccccocceccccccell4 Carrick Ave., Hamilton, Ontario, Canada MINUTES OF MEETING OF NATIONAL BASKETBALL COMMITTEE OF UNITED STATES AND CANADA HELD ON MAY 1 and 2, 1939, AT MCALPIN HOTEL, NEW YORK The 1939 annual meeting of the National Baskotball Committee was held at the McAlpin Hotel, New York, on May lst and 2nd. General Plan of Sessions The sub-committees met in informal session ot 9:00 A.M. Monday, May lst. Tho first formal session opened at 10:00 A.M. Monday with Chairman H, H. Salmon presiding. Other sessions were held Monday afternoon, Monday night and Tuesday morning. Monday night the committee recessed for an hour to attend a demonstration of baskote ball backboards of a new size and shape and with o convex surface. These boards had been erected at the Now York University Gymnasium by the Fred Medart Company of St. Louis, Missouri. Synopsis of Reports THE CREDENTIALS COMMITTEE authori,ed the seating of members as listed and reports wore hoard. REPORT OF SECRETARY: Tho minutes of the last meeting were approved as mailed. Tho Secretary reported on the general nature of committee activitics sinco the last mecting. The methods used in making up material for the guide and for the play situations book were outlined. After sanction by the Executive Committee the National Federation published 2 coaching school edition of the guide which was available about June lst. This book was not genorally distributed but was used by a numbor of coaching schools. 229 copies of tho book wore sold for this purpose and tho National Federation paid tho usual royalty of four cents per copy for such books. Attontion was called to the desirability of continued action by the com- mittoe in directing trends so that the game may kcop pace with improvements in other fields, and in coordinating the experimental work which is being done by groups throughout the country. Attempts should also be made to constantly improve the code itsolf by clarifying and amplifying disputed sections. Such work can be directed through study of requests for interpretations on different sections of the rules and of the results of the comprehensive examinations which sre given by var- ious groups to their registered officials. ittention was callod to statistical blanks and data showing the effect which the 1938-39 rule changes have had on the game. Such work included tests to determine the best bouncing reaction of a ball, to determine the best size of ball for various ege groups, to determine tho part of the backboard which is actually used, to find how much uso is being made of the four-foot end space and possibilities in various proposed modifications in timing mcthods. | A comprohonsive questionnaire, based on experimental work which was sponsored by the committee, was widely distributed and carefully tabulated. Continued progress may be promoted by making certain cquipment or procedures Op- sionally legal until such time as it scems dosirable to make them compulsory. .’A socond way to promote progress is for tho committee to designate certain groups as experimental groups to try out modifications which the committec may think dosir- able but which they would hesitate to immediately put into the rules. Page two - NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BASKETBALL COACHES: Tho recommendations of the National Association of Basketball Coaches were presonted by Clair Bee of Long Island University. Thoy wore: 1. A captain shall have the option to decline any free throw and choose instead to take the ball out of bounds at tho side of tho court nearest to tho spot of the foul. The personal foul ponalty shall be charged to the offended. Rules 15, Section 13B In c.so whore a foul is ponalized by two free throws, the right to declino any froo throw shall obligato the disclaimor to decline both free throws. Rule 15, Section 13B 2. In case of a throw for the basket and a foul by the defense, occurring simul- tanoously, the throw rosulting in a field goal shall count and the personal foul shall bo charged against the offender. Rule 15, Yection 13B 3, With a view towards making them official, tho requirements as to form end mator- jals used in the construction of the ball, the basket and its rim, the net and tho bank board, shall be standardized. Rule 2, 3, 4. 4, Tho word optional shall be stricken from tho rule doaling with court sizo. Each of the end lines shall bo four feet behind the front surface of its rospectivo bank board. There shall be fifty fcet from side line to side line. tho distance betwoen tho front surfaces of the bank boards shall be ninoty fect. Rulo le CHARTERED BOARDS OF OFFICIALS; Recommendations were presented by Dr. John Brown, Jr. These recommendations werc noted along with those montioned in the question~- naire and in tho reports of the various sub-committoes. 411 of thom wore considered in the course of the ensuing sessionse. The Secretary did not receive a copy of tho recommendations and consequently they are not included in their entirety in these minutos. REPORT OF RESEARCH COMMITTEE: Roports were made by Chairman and by various mombers of the Research Committee. Copies of detailed comments relative to the desirabil- jty of raising the height of the baskets and of oxperimonts with modified backboards and basket nots woro distributed to oach membor of the committee and consoquently they are not included in these minutes. Copios of a method for rating basketball playors wore also distributed. Floyd Rowe reported on a study of lighting standards and recommended a minimum intensity of 10 foot-candle power at 4 feet above the court. PUBLICATIONS COMMITTEE: Tho report of the Publications Committee is included in the roport on the businesssession which appears noar the ond of these minutes. QUESTIONNAIRE COMMITTEE ; The Questionnaire Committee analyzed the results of the voting on the various topics included in tho questionnaire. 1939-40 RULE MODIFICATIONS Soveral modifications in rules or interpretations were mado aftor a thorough con= sideration of all reports and of all statistical data which might have a bon.ring. No attempt is made to indicate which member mado or seconded any motion. In every case, action was takon after a motion regularly made, seconded and carried. In practically all casos the adoption was by unanimous vote. In no caso was any change authorizod with less than a throe-fourths majority. Page thrco = l» +l. The minimum dimensions of a court are to be 74 feet by 42 feet. Also the optimum (ideal) length for college courts is to be 94 feet. A statement relative to what constitutes proper lighting for courts is to be included in the Comments following the rules and a reference to it will be made in Rule l-l, 2. 1-5 and 2-2. It will be specified that end lines shall be four fect behind the backbosrds unless space will not permit. In that case the ond lines may be at any distance betweon two fect and four fcet bohind the backboards. The court diagram will be changed to conform to these rule modifications. 3, 41. The tolerance in bowmcing reaction of a ball will be betwoen a minimum of 49 inchos and ao maximum of 54 inches. 4, 65-2 and ll-l-(d). Any player will be pormitted to request a time-out provided it is done at the proper timo as specified in ll-1l. 5, 53. Slight changes will be made to take care of certain intorpretations which have boen authorized. These will include tho interpretation that in case of an in- jury after a goal, substitution may bo mado only for the injured playor and in caso sovoral substitutions for the same team aro made, cither captain may request that the players be brought togethor in order that each player may locate his proper op- ponent. It was the sentiment of the committee that this should not be cncouraged but might be dme at the discretion of the official. 6. 61, 2, 3, 7, 9 and 10. The term “timers™ is to be uscd. Also the officiel must designate the official time picce and shall be specifically instructed to cxamine the scorebook at tho ond of each half. In Section 7, ths term "must" is to be used in the last sontence. In Scction 9, the expression "the call of timo at the end of game" is to bo core rectod. In gection 10, it is to bo made clear that the official is obligated to make clear to the scorers the number of the player who fouled. 7. T-7-j. This statement is to be reworded for clarity and accuracy. 8, Tell-Note and 7-21. The Editor was given authority to re-word these sections for clarity and accuracy. In the case of the noto, the sentiment on the gquostion- nairo and the sontiment oxpressed in tho committee was to the effect that a more rigid administration of this rule should be promoted, particularly in the case where the ball holder is in the opon and the situation is not complicated by a number of playors being in a congested areca such as in the vicinity of the basket. 9, 1ll-2. Interpretations which had been made relative to how a substitution might originate following a goal were authorized. Theso will be taken care of through slight modifiections in the questions and answors following this sectione 10, ll-4. In addition to the five permissible charged time-outs, a team will be allowed one time-out for each overtime period. ll. 13-5. After the froo throw following a technical foul, tho offended toom shall put the ball in play from out of bounds at the ecntor of « sidclinee Page four - 12. 14-2 and 14-7. Those sections to be reworded to be in harmony with the change which was made in Section 9. Alsc the committoo adopted the interpretation that the restriction for ontering the lane applics only to touching the floor in the lane, i.se., the plane of the lane linc is not to be considered the restricting area and a player is not in the lane until he has touched the floor. 13. 14-9. It is to be considered a violation if a free throw docs not ontor tho basket or touch the ring oven though it might touch the backboard. Touching of the ball by any player before it touches the ring is assumed to ond the free throw. 14, 15-A-1. In (b) the term “a player" is tc be replaced by tan opponent". 15. 15-C-9. Tho Egitor was authorized to attompt a rewrite of the first quostion in the attempt to clarify certain dribble situations. 16. 15-C-12-Ponalty. The penalty is to bo reworded and rearranged to include two changes. Whenevor a player who is in the act of throwing for a goalis fouled from behind or is roughly handled from any direction, two free throws are to be awarded regardless of whether the goal is made or missed. flso, aftor any personal foul, tho Captain of the offended toam may chooso to refuse the free throw (or last ono in caso of 2 multiplo throw) and to put the ball in play from out of bounds at tho center of tho sideline. Such option will not be allowed in the case of a double foul. 17. GENERAL: The gditor was authorized to check tho use of tho term ‘misses™ and the terms "possession™ and "control" and to make changes in wording wherover these torms might be erroneously uscd or might lead to doubt in the minds of tho roadors. Other Committee Action There was considerable discussion relativo to the possible use in future yoars of a backboard which would be made considerably smaller than the present one through elimination of suporfluous areas at the edges and corners and which might be con- structed with a convox surfaco rathor than a plane surface. It was pointed out that the edges af cornors are used a negligible number of times in actual play and the waste space has become a detriment because of changes in style of play and in court markings. A different type board would have the following advantages: 1. It would pormit freer use of the four-foot ond space. 2. It would greatly increase the visibility of the basket from corners of the gym- nasium ond from directly behind the backboard. 3. The romoval of tho lower edge of the backboard would increase the spaco under the basket from which a goal might be made. 4, It would simplify tho bridgework which is necessary for hanging the backboard since the woight would bo reduced by nearly one-half and tho span would not be so great as to cause warping or twisting. 5, Such backboards would have a more pleasing streamlined appearance. These facts have been verified through extensive rescarch made by several membors of the committoe and throwh the demonstration which was attonded by the committee momber s. The committoe instructed tho Editorial Committee to use at least one page in tho almanac soction of the guide for diagrams and material calling attention to the proposed modifiod backboard and to the fact that the backboard of future yoars will probably be of this type. In order that those who are intcrested in equipmont Page five - will have something upon which to base thoir plons, the article will carry a dia- gram showing a board with Little space below the lovel of the ring and with rounded corners, iece, with the odgos somi-circular or oval. The distance from the basket lovel to the top of the board is to bo betwoen 27 inches and 30 inches and tho width of the board is to bo between 54 inches and 60 inches. Such a board is to bo considered the standard for exporinontal work until such time as the most desirablo shape md sizo may bo determined. Tho Research committce was instructed to oncournge conference and coaching school use of modified boards of this typs. Thore was considerable discussion relative to nots of a type other than the standard scino twine. Several members reportod use of the Bennett type metal chain net. In goneral, the reports indicated that such nots had considerg> le merit but it was the sentiment of a majority of the committoe that such nets are so expensive that they would.not be widely usod even if legalized. The Chairman of the Research Com- mittee was instructed to notify the inventor that at the present time tho committes has no intention of legalizing any net othor than the present official one. The report on the height of baskets led to considerable discussion. The Research Committee was instructed to continue experimentation and members of the committco agreed to encourage tho erection of boards which would be on brackets so that they might be raised or lowered for the collection of statistics which will give further information relative to the advantages and disadvantages of the 11 and 12-f oot baskets. The committoe discussed several interpretations which had been made during the cur- rent season ond, in general, sanctioned those which had been made by tho official intorpreter. Definite action was taken relative to the following: 1. If an overtime is played because of an orror in the score which is not discovered until after overtime play has started or because of lack of knowledge of the proper rule relative to tic games, tho team which was the winner by rule at the ond of regular playing timo or at the ond of an overtime poricd is to be considered the winner regardloss of what may have happened in the overtime. 2, The Questionnaire Committee was instructed to give some attention to problems which arise beeauso of diving for the ball and to attempt to determine sentiment relative to this practice. 3. The Secretary was instructed to collect information rolative to studies which have been made concerning the effect of basketball on health of players. Business iMecting Mr. Dole was callod away from an carly sossion because of the death of his fathor and the comttce adopted and mailed a resolution of condolence and a suitable floral tribute. Treasurer Floyd Rowe distributed copies of the financial statement. Because of this, additional copies aro not included with tho minutes but copy of the statoment is in the files of the secretary. Page six - The Treasurer's report was accepted and ordered filed. The report showod that 229 copics of the summer coaching school odition of tho rules book had been sold and that approximately 44,000 copics of the almanac edition of the guide had beon sold. The number of seles in Cenada was slightly less than three pereent of tho total. At the timo of the mooting $1784.76 in royaltios wore duc from the Americm Sports Pub- lishing Company, making tl assots of tho committee $1851.11. The liabilities in- cluded $70.00 duc tho Canadian groups for 1937-8, $500.00 duo to Oswald Towor for 1938-39 services, $10.00 duo tho Me4lpin Employces Fund, and $21.68 for oxponses connected with the 1939 mceting. after goncral expenses have been paid, ten percent of the not will be paid tho Y.M.C.A., five pereont will bo paid half and half to the two Canadian groups and the remainder will accrue to the National Collogiate Athictic Association. Tho Chairman appointod on the Nominating Committoc, J. W. St. Clair, Chairman, F, P, Maguire, J. H, Crockor, BE. J, Hickox and H. G. Ojson. The Committee nominated and recommondod the clection of the same officers as had served during the curront senson. Those officers wore unanimously clected. Mr. Tower reported for tho Publicstions Committee and statod that tho 4.5. Barnos Company had presentod a proposition whereby they might print the basketball guide. John Lowell Pratt, representing the Barnes Company, was called in to present tho advantages of such publication. Ho suggested the printing of the rules in a sopar- ate small folder and, as a substitute for the present almanac section of the guide, proposed the use of material dealing with the mechanics of play, primrily for the benefit of those who may not have the advantages of attending coeching schools or of having trained coaches. If the Barnes Company were to be made the sole pub= lisher of the guide, they would be willing to guarantee a gross incomo for tho com- mittoe which would be equal to the present income from royalties and which might bo greater if the sale of books could bo increased. After discussing tho proposi- tion, the committee voted that fer the 1939-40 soason tho guide would be published by the Amorican Sports Publishing Company and that its nature would be similar to that of the past several years. The Exocutive Committee was instructed to make fur- ther investigations relative to proposed changes in publication or mothods of in= croasing the sale of the guides. Tho Bxecutive Committee will report back to tho ontire committee by mail or at the next annual meeting. Each of the constituent bodies will be asked to set up machinery whereby an indi- vidual or small committee will pass upon material which will be used in tho almanac edition of tho guide and about which there might be somo question. Each such body will have authority to sanction or disapprove such matorial for its own soction of the almanac. The Socrotary and Chairman were instructod to locate the cormittece constitution which was pr»posod soveral years ago but upon which no official action was taken. Thoy were authorized to bring such constitution up to date and to submit it to theo members for final action. The Secrotary was authorized to arrange with the National Federation to publish tho special edition of the rules for tho use of summor coaching schools. It was undere stood that tho customary royalty of four cents per copy would be paid the committoc on any such rulo soparates which might be sold and on any almanac cdition or rulo soparates which might be sold by the “merican Sports Publishing Company for any purpose. An honorarium of $500.00 to the official interprotor, Oswald Towor, was authorized and the Treasurer was instructed to pay the McAlpin Employees Fund $10.00. Fare scvon « F, C. Allen reported that tho National Collegiate National Tournament Finals will be hold in Kansas City, Missouri, on Saturday, March 30th. He invited the con- mittco to hold its 1940 annual meeting at that place on Saturday and Sunday, March 30th and 3lst. The committee voted to accept the invitation and thus officially fixed the time and place for the 1940 meeting. The meeting adjourned at 1:30 P.M. Tuesday, May 2nd. soe HY) Coton » Secretary Note: If any momber desires to sugrest changes or additions, ho should notify the secretary at an carly date. vy Yllinn, dekt nite ag! 33 ibe ate WS 7 : Latte F i ali i: 3 sdeee fs! 3 i ebgsiszel pecheal ea : a bal i at : li i ath ie a 2 TE kody Hee ph og da aa fa i a . fd mt An Waly He saa Jug dail Ly iy : ti i i i 7 Ge ish Hl HIE i ja i stT ive lias itn! "Be i nae if ne avi 115335° | eats ; v4; PbS nedee it b catiel adh < retype “aaj il ‘int th Hiesil Varsity Sasietball Coache \ Very sincerely yours, “yth all good wishes, 1 on PCAs AH Western Union r Ste Louis, Nee June 5, 1959, Dre Fe Co Allene Please rush air mail special delivery reply promised in your letter of Srd to me care Bismark Hotel, Chicagos Also copy Porter's report covering result his Rules Committee questiomaire to youe - We without this data and desire to consider it before contacting him Wednesday. Re Ey Weinzettel, Fred Medart Companys CLASS OF SERVICE 1201 [ SYMBOLS J os s is a sos DL=Day Letter egram or le an a —— its de NL=Nighe Letter erred chéracter is in- a dicated by a suitable it AD. ) LC=Deferred Cable symbol above or pre- 5 NLT =Cable Night Letter ceding the address. < B. WHITE NEWCOMB CARLTON J. Cc. WILLEVER = ce eee i CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT The filing time shown in the date line on telegrams and day letters is STANDARD TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is STANDARD TIME at point of destination eaciae at 646 Massachusetts St., Lawrence, Kansas. Phone 2764 ~ "KAD21 TWS PAID 3 MINS=STLOUIS MO 27 1025A 00% JUL 27 Al 10 4¢ DR FORREST C ALLEN= UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS LAWRENCE KANS= RE YOUR LETTER 26TH URGE YOU PHONE BILLY ANDLAUER AND ATTEMPT SET DEFINITE DATE TAKE MOVIE Si SUGGEST NEXT MONDAY Ld CONVENIENT YOU TO ARRANGE GAMES: PLEASE WIRE ME RUSH WESTERNUNION COLLECT SOON AS DATE SET SO CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS BE PRESENT IF POSSI BLE= Be & WEINZETTEL MEDARTS: 26% THE COMPANY WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESTIONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICE — ye oa! ui ‘a a 4 July 28, 1989 a ii 7 Hae i i 1 f He a i Hy | ‘if igi = i La ial? : 4 Coe, stop Hope for your presence it will teaching Iie Ry Re Meinzettel, Yesterday I sent you the following wires “ierengenents made Billy indleuer shoot pictures Medart Dear Tr. Weilnzettel: St. Louis, Missouri. FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. STEEL LOCKERS — STEEL SHELVING — STEEL WARDROBES GYMNASIUM APPARATUS — PLAYGROUND APPARATUS GYM SEATS — SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT CHICAGO OFFICE NEW YORK OFFICE 16 WEST 61ST STREET . METAL SPECIALTIES 326 W. MADISON ST. GENERAL OFFICE AND FACTORY POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS ST. Louls, Mo. July 25, 1939 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen: I have before me three or four issues of "Life" and I note that in each issue there is a portion of the magazine given to sports. Ap- parently there is not much in the way of a write-up necessary for "Life" but rather some action photographs are in order. I have been womlering how those photographs look that you had taken by the photographer of the Kansas City Star. Were they pictures of the game being played or merely "stills" ,!@pictures of the stand only. Just thought I would mention this to you because it will give us both something to think about in regard to some publicity in "Life" on the new game teveloped by “Phog" Allen'.... This thing is certainly getting "hot"! Kindest regards. Cordially yours, FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. R.E.We inzette1/Ac FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. STEEL LOCKERS — STEEL SHELVING — STEEL WARDROBES GYMNASIUM APPARATUS — PLAYGROUND APPARATUS GYM SEATS — SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT CHICAGO OFFICE NEW YORK OFFICE - 16 WEST Gist STREET METAL SPECIALTIES 326 W. MADISON ST. GENERAL OFFICE AND FACTORY POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS ST. LouIs, Mo. Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen: Supplementing my letter of yesterday with reference to au- thority to go ahead with the publicity plans as offered by the magazine "Life" and also the Paramount News, please be sure to keep us informed on the tentative date when this publicity will be handled in Lawrence so we can be present if at all possible. You have the dates when I will be available, in my letter yesterday. The purpose of this letter is to suggest that in the event the above two organizations come down to Lawrence for this purpose, that you have the gate that was broken from the ring welded back into place so it will be in good order for the exhibition game that would have to be played. In otler words, we do not have another of these gates available, nor do we have a goal made up, and the cheapest and best way to handle the broken part is to have it welded locally, as sug- gested. We, of course, would absorb the cost of this work. Kindest regards. Yours very truly, FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. a R.E.Weinzette1/Ac WESTERN UNION | St. Louis, Moe July 27, 19396 Dre Forrest C,. Allen, Re your letter 26th urge you phone Billy Andleuer and attempt set definite time take MOVIES Suggest next Monday if convenient. You arrange gemés Please wire me rush Western Union collect as soon as date set so'can make arrengements be present if possiblee Re E. Weinzettele duly 27, 1939 i iM 2 g3ts3 pst api giuea! Has g2 2838 “ een Dr. Forrest C. Allen Lawrence, Kansas July 28, 195% Director cf Physical Bducetion and Recreation, Varsity Basketball Coache FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. STEEL LOCKERS — STEEL SHELVING — STEEL WARDROBES GYMNASIUM APPARATUS — PLAYGROUND APPARATUS GYM SEATS — SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT NEW YORK OFFICE METAL SPECIALTIES ee 16 WEST 61ST STREET GENERAL OFFICE AND FACTORY POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS ST. LOUIS, MO. July 18, 1939 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Lr. Allen: Supplementing my letter of the 17th with reference to your report of. the game played in Lawrence with the new equipment, I am wondering what height was used. I assume that the full 10' height was utilized and that you have not had an occasion for youngsters to play the game uSing the 8' or the 9' height. Also advise, please, the size of the ball that was used. I note you: used a brown ball that you painted white, but nothing is said regard- ing this ball other than it was apparently entirely satisfactory. I note what you say regarding a ball that will not float as the lea- ther balls do or some of the lighter rubber balis. Is this of vital importance in College play? If so, would it be as important in ele- mentary school or high school play, or for general play in playgrounds? In other words, this ball you are building is likely to be an official . ball for College games - or am I wrong in that assumption? Incidentally, the question arises as to the need of an outdoor ball to withstand rough treatment such as would result if the game was played on certain types of surfaces, such as cinders, bricks, etc. Would it be necessary to have a ball especially built to resist that kind of treatment, or could the same type of indoor ball be used for outside play? These are all question that we look to you for answers as you, of course, are better able to advise than-anyone around here. I wish you would advise me, when writing next, how many people attended your demonstration. I would like to have this information because it may have some bearing on the reaction we might expect elsewhere in the country as far as spectators are concerned. Kindest regards. Cordially yours, R.E.Weinzettel/Ac FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CoO. STEEL LOCKERS — STEEL SHELVING — STEEL WARDROBES GYMNASIUM APPARATUS — PLAYGROUND APPARATUS GYM SEATS — SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT NEW YORK OFFICE METAL SPECIALTIES pipe aaa 16 WEST 61sT STREET GENERAL OFFICE AND FACTORY POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS ST. Lous, Mo. July 18, 1939 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen: I have for attention your letter of July 14, together with | Signed original copy of contract offered you under date of June 23. Before consigning this contract to our files I want to discuss the postscript to your letter in which you bring up the question of a specified number of years as an addition to this contract, with a clause calling for the extension of time by agreement of both parties. When the original contract was prepared we attempted to cover the essential parts of it without giving considera- tion to the element of time but would like to hear from you as to your suggestion. Possibly a five-year term would be in order, with an extension at the end of five years. Please let us hear further from you at your convenience. Kindest regards. Cordially yours, K,E Weinzette1/Ac FRED ME DART MANU FACTU RING Co. STEEL LOCKERS — STEEL SHELVING — STEEL WARDROBES GYMNASIUM APPARATUS — PLAYGROUND APPARATUS GYM SEATS — SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT NEW YORK OFFICE CHICAGO OFFICE 16 WEST 61st STREET METAL SPECIALTIES 326 W. MADISON ST. GENERAL OFFICE AND FACTORY POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS ST. Loutrs, Mo. July 17, 1 Dr. Forrest C. Alien ¥ 17, 1959 University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen; Needless to say, your letter of July 1) was a very welcome bit of news to all of us here in the office. We are anxiously awaiting the publicity clippings from the several papers mentioned. All of the suggestions you make in this letter are going to receive our care- ful consideration, of course, and suggested changes or improvements will un- doubtedly be made. Frankly, I am not surprised that the game turned out to be very strenuous and I am wondering whether some corsideration should not be given to the sugges— tion of breaking up the playing area into three segments, as originally dis- cussed, especially for elementary school children and for physicall handi- capped children. ' It sounds to me as if you have something in that improvised ball you described, but 6f course we are in no position to comment on same and will leave the ques- tion of developing this ball in your hands, and maybe we can tie up this ball, as originally intended, with the game, and thus complete the idea of the offic- ial equipment consisting of the standard, the ground marking equipment, and the ball. We will discuss this further at a later date. Concerning the question of adding length to the pipe so that it may be set in concrete, it is our intention to offer two types of uprights or standard, i.e., one with the roumd base so it can be moved in and out of the school or on and off of the gymnasium floor, etc., am a secom type that will be without a base and intended for permanent installation in concrete. Have you arranged to take some photographs of the game being played by people of various ages? If not, I wish you would do this, as authorized in a previous letter, so we can have a half dozen pictures or so available for publicity that we are preparing. I think these pictures should show some children playing as well as the adults, and if you can get a picture of the game with a crowd of spectators around it, so much the better. Your photographer can bill us, and we want one print and a negative of each of the several pictures taken. Certainly enjoyed reading your report very much, am we are glad you are even more enthused than before. Cordially yours, FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. R.E.We inzette 1/AC July 28, 1959, o He Ai ui Mi i's ita g2 a 4 areity Dosketinll Conche Recrestion, FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CO. STEEL LOCKERS — STEEL SHELVING — STEEL WARDROBES GYMNASIUM APPARATUS — PLAYGROUND APPARATUS GYM SEATS — SWIMMING POOL EQUIPMENT CHICAGO OFFICE NEW YORK OFFICE 16 WEST 61sT STREET METAL SPECIALTIES 326 W. MADISON ST. GENERAL OFFICE AND FACTORY POTOMAC AND DE KALB STREETS ST. LouIs, Mo. AIR MAIL July 27, 1939 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Alien: I have your very interesting letter of July 26, to which I replied by tele- gram, per copy attached, and hope you will succeed in getting your friend Billy Andlauer to come out to Lawrence and make the most of the offer Para- mount has made to us, next Monday or Tuesday at the latest. In the event the schedule for taking these movies goes ahead for one of these two dates, I want to remind you to have the gate welded back to the rim of the goal so this broken piece will be in place for this game. No doubt there would be some close-up "shots" of you as the originator of this game explaining why you thought it was good, md in that connecti think both of us should be giving some thought to a little statement by you, and I think it would be wise to include some reference to a rules book that you are Writing and will mail to interested parties. This is just a thought but it would be in order to prepare a few lines to use in the event this per- sonal angle, by the originator of the game, is used. This, of course, is on the assumption that the movies will not be "stills" but talkies, and that your friend Andlauer will have a sound truck with him for this purpose. aly bag This offer brings up the question of "killing two birds with one stone" as concerns "Life", when we all gather together in Lawrence. Can you arrange to have Tom Bowlus, the Kansas City Star representative, and representative for "life" present at that time so we can discuss this "Life" article? I am extremely interested in this matter and when I see you, as I hope to do next week (although if I am not able to get to Lawrence I will write you more about the name of “Goal-Hi" which we are inclined to think might be the name, after all) we can get into this question of a name. As far as the tentative dates for meeting in St. Louis, iee., August 1) or 15, are concerned, they are still all right as far as lir. Medart and I are con- cerned, but we can cover that when we meet next week. It seems to me that we have a terrific amount of work ahead of us in the way of whipping up the rules for this game, not only for college play but for high school and elementary school, and, of course, playground play by people of . ¥ i Stl it ti a ncementn FRED MEDART MANUFACTURING CoO. Dr.Forrest CG. Allen Lawrence, Kansas various ages. From this end we have to have some photographs pretty quick for our patent attornéy and I am hopeful those pictures you promised me from the Kansas City Star will be forthcoming without a great deal of delay. If I get any more thoughts on this subject during the day, I will add them to this letter, but meanwhile, look forward to definite word from you by Western Union as requested in the attached confirmation on my wire to you this morning. Kindest regards. Cordially yours, FRED MEDART MANUEACTURING CO. R.E.Weinze tte 1/AC Enc. -1206-A CHECK CLASS OF SERVICE DESIRED : DOMESTIC CABLE Z TELEGRAM FULL RATE : : ; ACCT’G INFMN. 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