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February 7, 1942.

Hr. ©, i. MeBride, x
Sports Editor,
The Kansas City Star,

Dear Mac:

Again we went to thank you and your splendid staff on the

sport desk for the most valuable aid that you rendered us in
promoting the Great Lakes - Kansas basketball game which was
piayed in the Municipal Auditorium February 5th.

Without the interest of the Star and your fine support of
this project I am sure that the gate receipts would have been
nothing as compared with what they were. Our share was $1186.46
and the seme amount went to the Nevy. This was after all expense
had beon paid. This is a tidy sum to pick up from a basketball
game, and we repeat that we appreciate the kindness of you and
your boys greatly. I am writing Roy Roberts thanking him, alsoe

It was good to have a visit with you Friday morning. It
seemed like old times. I wish that we might have more opportunities
to chew the fat. ‘These visits are getting far too.rare, but in our
busy existence I do not sec how we can have many more of them un-
less we rob you of your valuable working time. |

By the way, I. as waking you the rules and regulations govern-
ing athletic participation in the M.V.I.A.A. This was written in
1937. Page 10 has to do with the residence and page 15 has to do
with the migrant rule. As I told you, Dean Thompson of Nebraska,
wrote this migrant rule. Both rules are crystal clear, and any ad-
ministrator, even Jap Haskell, covld understand them.

Certainly the great fault was on the part of the administration
and the ceaching staff at the University of Oklahoma. Gerald Tucker
could not be blamed for not knowing the rule. If there is any blame
attached to him it is that he chopped around and got a better bargain,
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the students gave him ebout his singing voice he moved off to quister
and more pleasant fields, so he thought.

I am enclosing a couple of tear sheets from the Oklahoma City
papers which show that the Oklahoma boys are still reaching out after
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cen by their proselyting and subsidizing methods. That was the on
I did not hesitate to take a crack at Tucker when he went down thera
and the second time I took a Lot
seemed to have nerve enough to do anything qheut it.

Remembering our eonoreation regarding "Oive the ball to dmtor”
episode in the breakfast room, I am sending a copy of the letter
that I wrote Raymond Nichols regarding the incident in‘which
I refer to the Oklahom group. You will remember that I told you I _
spent most of my time talking upon the durable things of athletics TAN
rather than criticizing Oklahoma in my main speech. Therefore, I am HR,
sending you this to show what I actually said. Ke

I am also enclosing a copy of the address that I made at Cape
Girardeau, Missouri, concerning the denise of subsidized football. /\
You will please remember, Mac, that I have never said that football i
is on the way out. Rather, I said that big. time subsidized football
is on the way out and I believe my speech might clarify the points
ee ee

With best wishes, T eam

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,
FCA:AH . Varsity Basketball end Baseball Coach.
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June 16, 1942.

Mr. Cy. Es MeBride,
The Kensas City Star,
Kansas City, Mos

Dear Mac:

I was sorry that I did not get to see you Saturday afternoon when I
stopped by the Sports Desk to say hello. On Sunday morning I read your sports
columm as usual and with much plosaure, and noted what you had to say under
“Please Say Yes, Kansas”.

I em sending you a copy of the venti that pertains to our
basketball game with Great Lakes and its attendant contingencies.

First, I might say, Mac, that we arranged the games in basketball on
@ budgetary basis. We are counting the income from these various games, including
Great Lakes, to help us pay our salaries that the Athletic Association pays us.
Kansas has had lean cig in athletics, and while we want to do our bit in helping
the service teams, the arrangement this year was the same as last year, namely that
Kansas and Great Lakes, as well as the Pre-Flight School at Iowa City, would divide
the gate receipts.

Lieutenant Commander Russell Cook agreed to come to Kansas for $200,00
guarentee with 50% option of the recefipts last year. The 50% option on account of
student tickets never runs over $400. Great Lakes drew as their share of the re-
ceipts in the Kensas-Great Lakes game the amount of $1186.46. I believe of all the
Great Lakes scheduled games last year that only the Notre Dame-Great Lakes game in

Chicago paid more to Great Lakes than this Kansas game.

I am also cognizant of the fact that Missouri has played two football
bowl games in the past three years and they are pretty well fixed financially. I
am very sure that our Athletic Board is not in position to turn over all the re-
ceipts to Navy Relief, as much as they would like to do it. However, I do have one
suggestion, and I am sure that our Board would concur in it. At least, I would
recommend it if permission is obtained from the Big Six for the game, namely that
Kansas and Missouri play basketball in the Mumicipal Auditorium in Kansas City, and
that we give the entire receipts to the Navy Relief after oxpenses are paid. But
we do not feel that since these games have been listed on our budget on an estimated
income basis that we can afford to follow your suggestion that all profits above
expenses be turned over to the Navy Relief fund.

You will see by our correspondence that I enclose that I had written
Hinkle end suggested that Oklahoma Aggies and Kansas participate in two double-headers
with the service teams. This was not followed through by Lt. Hinkle, but rather a
contract was signed to play at Columbia, Missouri, on January 29th. I am convinced
that had we brought in Oklahoma Aggies in the double~header arrangement we would
have packed the hall both nights. I am definitely of the opinion that Kansas would
be losing money under the proposed arrangement that Missouri and Great Lakes desire.

Later I closed a contract with Larry Snyder at Iowa City and George
Edwards closed a contract to play at Columbia. I am of the definite opinion that
Kansas would suffer financially by the arrangement which George Edwards proposes.
Therefore, since we have arranged our schedule and Missouri has arranged hers, we
feel that it is entirely fitting for us to determine our own policies in ner
to Vaaee Games.

Prnasgervelts

ASR ateen
I recall the very discourteous letter that George Edwards wrote me
concerning the action of the Kansas basketball coach in Kansas City during the
N.C.A.A. tournament. iIn view of this fact, I can see many wmpleasantries that
might present themselves when Kansas might desire her band and her Jay Janes to
perform before the public. After all, since this is the Kansas home court we
want a Kansas night. °

I ean recall in 1936 when Kansas arranged two basketball games with the
University of Southern California, Professor Shirkey called our faculty represent-
ative and Dr. King of Kansas State, and insisted Kenses had no right to play in
Kensas City. Now, Mac, I think this is the real reason for Missouri's activities.
Professor ond Dr. King came to Lawrence ond 1% was arranged tha
would play but one game with the University of Southern California, the first one,
and Missouri and Kansas State would play the second game of the doubleeheader.
Then the winners would play the winners, and the losers would play the losers.
We were fortunate to beat the University of Southern California, and Kansas State
defeated Missouri. Then we defeated Kansas State, and Southern California defeated
Missouri. And this started out as a two-game series between Kansas and the Univ~
ersity of Southern California.

You and your paper have been wonderfully fine to us and we would not
dint to displease you in any way. We are tremendously appreciative of the fine
drawing power and hospital ty that the Kansas City people have given us, which in
many ways we can attribute to the unflagging publicity that your paper has given
to Kansas. Sut when we had the foresight to make the preliminary arrangements for
the first game and carry them through to successful conclusions, we still like to
exercise the right of the host team of inviting in the people that we desire to
play with. I trust that you wll not think we are contentious or ungenerous.

I will appreciate your giving this your usual fair concern and write me
at your convenience. I have written you from the depth of my heart and have not
withheld a single inward thought.

With deep appreciation, I am

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education,
FCA: AH Varsity Basketball Coach.
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Please Sag Yts, Kansas.
OW about a pair of basketball double-headers de iva in the
Municipal Auditorium January 29 and 30 with the Universities
of Kansas and Missouri, the Great Lakes team and the pre-flight
navy school team of Iowa. City?

Sounds interesting, doesn’t it?

Basketball patrons will be glad to know that sien January enter-
tainment is a possibility. The consent of the University of Kansas
is all that stands in the way of such an ar-
rangement. The Jayhawkers already are sched-
uled to play in the auditorium on those nights.
The double-header arrangement simply would
mean that the University of Missouri would
bring its two games of those nights to Kansas
City. Missouri authorities already have agreed
to do that.

The University of Kansas has profited
financially from games in this city far above
and beyond any other school of the Big Six,
so probably will feel some obligation to take
part in giving the patrons here two gala nights,
It is not for this writer to suggest what the
universities do with their basketball profits on games in this city
and we aren’t particularly interested, but in ‘this case the suggestion
has been made that all profits above expenses be turned over to the
navy relief fund.

As the schedules stand now the Great Lakes team will play the
Tigers in Columbia January 29, while Kansas is meeting the pre-
flight navy school team .from Iowa City in the auditorium here. -
On the following night the Iowa City team goes to Columbia for
a game with Missouri, the Great Lakes team coming to this city
for a contest with Kansas in the auditorium. Therefore, the
. switching of the two Columbia games to Kansas City would do the
work. Columbia patrons might have objections to that removal,
but Missouri officials have consented to make the shift, so all that
now remains is for Kansas to move over, make room for Missouri
and thus-assure the turnstile-clicking Kansas City patrons a pair of.
attractive. basketeering nights, C. E,\McBRIDE.

 

 

 

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dune 9, 1922.

Lt. Commander Larry Snyder, USM,
Naval Aviation Pre-Flight School,
Town City, Towme
Dear Larry:

Please find enclosed two copies of the contract for
our game in Kensas City. Will you kindly sign and return one

copy for our files? is identioally the same contract
at we signed with Lt. Hinkle of the Groat Lakes Training

George Hdwards, of Missouri, wrote me regarding tho
possibility of a double header in Kansas City, but we have
made other arrangements that we think will be more satisfactory
finemeially for all concerned. I am enclosing a copy of my
reply to him.

With kindest regards, I am

Sincerely yours,
pdreeter of eal Education and Recreation,
FPCAsAH Varaity and Basebell Coache :

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dune 9, 1942.

Lt. Paul DB, Hinkle, USER,
Ue Se Havel Training Station,
Great Lakes, Illinois.

Dear "Tony" s

Sineerely yours,

Director of Fhysical Education and Recreation,
FPOAsAR Vare ity , and Baseball Ceach.
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U.S NAVAL TRAINING STATION
GREAT LAKES, ILLINOIS

I suppose by this time you have received a letter
a Oe I received a carbon copy. Concerning
this mtter, I will be guided by your opinion.

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‘Best personal regards.
Sincerely yours,

(Signed) PAUL D. HINKLE

Lieutenant, US HR
Athletic Office

Mr. Porreet®.

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University of Kensas

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My. George R. Edwards,
Couch,
University of Missouri,

Columbia, Missouri.
Dear George:

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_ UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI

Columbia
June 6, 1942
Dr. F. Ce Allen,
Director of Education,
University of »
. Lawrence, Xan.
Dear Dr. Allen:

Ye dave boon in tou with offiatale ot Orast Lakng and Towa Sty —
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Jan. 29 Great Lakes vs. Missourl at Colusbia
Jane 29 Towa City vs. Kansas at Kansas City

am. © ese rg Sener aoe Peale

crept hil aera gen lng rg mac elm he Ayr dnapre age
are concerned, is to add to the y Relief Pund, it is my belief
that the games scheduled for © om the 29th and 50th should be
moved to Kansas City so that the four teams could play on those two

nights under a double header arrangement.

Queries have gone forward to the managers of the two service teams
to obtain their reactions to such a plan. Unless I I misjudged Uinkle's
romarks mide when he was here r » - om sure he favore it.
Please give this suggestion your immediate consideration, and let me

know if you don't think that four games on the two nights in Mumicipal
Auditorium won't be beneficial to 11 concerned.

Yours truly,
(Signed) OHO. R. EDWARDS
Coach of Basketball.

P.Se Our Committees on Intercollegiate Athletios has ——
informed me that they will approve such contests.
May 9, 1942,

Mr. Hemry FP. Tha,
Direotor of Athletics,
Okleshoma A. & Me. College,
ou deater, Oklehom.

Deer Henzyt :

Ceorge » Edwards end Tony Winkle closed « geme with
Great Lakes at raahohta, Missouri, for January 29. This
broke up our plan which you and I tentatively had to :
Creat lakes end Bernie Merman‘e Neval Aviation Prourl
O0Le

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plan, but the fact that Tony seheduled this game with George
prohibits it. Therefore, we are playing Great Lakes on the
60th in a single came.

| I greatly regret thet Oklehoma Aggies and Kansas

Gould not have played this double header as plemed., 1 think

a0 WORES have Sous & fine athletic anterthiant cnt a Sineusdal
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4th kindest personal regards and sincere regrets that
we camot play this game, I om

Very sincerely yours, —

, tvester ef Paysion! Biwatien ent Reovention,
FCA AE Varsity Basketball and Baseball Coach.
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_U. &. NAVAL TRAINING STATION

May 5, 1942

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April 29, 21942.

Lt. Penl 3, Hinkle,

Great Leles, Illinois.
Dear “Tony”:

Evidently our letters passed in the mail.
—- Pewsomally, I think Oklshoma Aggies end Kansas
tentatively mado with Missouri end Kanses on the Oth. I

don't believe it would be best for Kensas to follow the ,
Missouri game. That would put the genes too close together.

| Of course, if you have made tentative arrengenents
and can't thange them, I cen appreciate your position.

Very sincerely yours,

POA:AH | Vareity end Baseball Coach.
April 25, 1942.

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Great Lakes Naval Training Station,
Great Lakes, Illinois.

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U. S. NAVAL TRAINING STATION
GREAT LAKES, ILLINOIS

April 23, 1942

Dear “Pog” s :

Sorry to keep you waiting so long for en answer to
your letter concerning bakketball dates.

Right now it looks as if 1t will be impossible for us

to play you between Christms and New Year's. However, it may
work out a little later that we could play at that time.

As I stated in a previous lotter, we are contemplating
pleying Missouri at Missouri on January 29th, and the January
date at Kensas City would fit right into that program. Would
Jenuary SOth date suit you?

If you think a double-header is necessary to draw a
crowd, what would yo think of the idea of getting a couple of
smaller colleges around there to play a game, or possibly Phillips
66, or somebody like that? Anybody who wouldn't require moh
money might be suitable. :

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With best porsonal regards, I an
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) PAUL D. HINKLE

LIXUTEMANT, USNR
Athletic Office

Myre Forrest 0. Allen |

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University of K
April 6, 1942

ly.. Paul De. Hinkle,

Athletic Officer,

Great Lakes Tr Station,
Great Lakes, 111: @

Dear Tonys:

My idea was to play some time between Christmas and
New Years.

T am sending a carbon copy of this to Henry Iba. We
diseussed it tentatively more then a week ago when we were
in fangas City. 3 |

With all good wishes, I am

Direotor of Physical Education and Recreation,
FCA:sAH Vareity Basketball and Baseball Coach.
april 2, 1942.

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education and Recrvation,
PCAs A Varsity Basketball end Baseball Coach.

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UJ. &. NAVAL TRAINING STATION
GREAT LAKES, ILLINOIS

Yeroh 30, 1942.

Sincerely,
(Signed) PAUL D. HINKLE
AthleticNepartzent

Mr. Forresté. Allen
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas
Maroh 13, 1942.

Mr. Peul D, Hinkle,

Athletic Department,

vu. 5, Naval Training Station,
Great Lakes, Tllinois.

Dear Tony:

Seppe * ddd Vain wy. wht te Muthterhon offtatats
and see what, in their opinion, wuld be the best time te
pley. As soon as I hear from Mr. Sugene Zachman, the
manager, I will write you.

Our Big Six basketball schedule, which was made in
Decenber, ae en S ee ee
ing of the acadenic terms next year, so wo may have to re~
make the schedule. NTE, yon wAkh Demy Site He ey
‘suggesting a = ov In the meantime, do you have
any ideas as to when you would like to come this way?

Sineerely yours,

Director of foal Education end Recreation,
PCA:AN Varsity and Baseball Coach.

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12 Maroh 1942

Dear “Fog”:

Just arrived on my new job and certainly om
enjoying everything.

Coneerning basketball for next year, we sure
would appreciate playing your team in Kansas City
as was done this year.

I would be glad to hear from you concerning
this mtter, and whet dates you suggest.

Best personal regards, I am

(Signed) PAUL D. HINKLE
Athletic Department.

 
 

September 19, 1941.

Mr. Mack McGinnis,
West Salem, Ohio.

Dear Mack:

This will acknowledge receipt of your letter of the 15th
instant. I wish that I might have time to give you a detailed account
of the personnel of all the teams, but I am rushing for an appointment
at the present time; hence will have only a moment to sketch the
situation. :

Louis Menze at Iowa State, who tied for the Big Six along
with Kansas, has the most veterans back, and with what he has coming up
they are the logical champions to repeat this year. They had exc
fonally tall boys and they are high scorers, and I believe Louie will
be tough.

Bruce Drake's Oklahomans will be studded with high school
stars and he will return a large number of his personnel for the coming
year. Gerald Tucker, the Winfield, Kansas, all-state high school star,
whe is 6 ft. 5 and weighs 220 pounds, should make an ideal pivot man
and will be difficult for anybody to stop. The wise ones are picking
the Oklahomans to give plenty of trouble. It was Tucker who enrolled
at Kansas State and after the middle of the semester withdrew and went
to Oklahoma. This movement caused quite a furor in the Big Six Confer-
ences

Nebraska's Coach Lewandowski has Sid Held and a group of
Cornhuskers that are enthusiastically backed by the Cornhusker follow-
ers to stage a real come-back and put Nebraska in the first division.

Jack Gardner has let it be known that his Kansas Staters
will definitely be in the titular hunt. He has a veteran team of
giants together with a great many high school stars.

George Edwards, of Missouri, has two giants, one 6 ft. 6,
and one 6 ft. 8, together with leading veterans like Storm, 6 ft. 4,
and a nucleus from his last year's team. He also has some star high
school replacements that should make Missouri very tough indeed.

Kansas lost Kline, Engleman and Allen. Bob Allen is now
at the University of Pennsylvania studying medicine. Engleman is with
the Phillips Petroleum Company at Bartlesville, and Kline is in the
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sophomores, when it comes to tough competition.

This will make my 25th year in coaching basketball at the
University of Kansas. My first two years were in 1908 and 1909 when we
won the Missouri Valley championsliip both years. I returned in 1919
and the first basketball season of 1920. On that team were Arthur
"Dutch" Lenborg, the Northwestern coach, and Coach Johnny Bunn who
coached Hank Luisetti at Stanford, and who is now Dean of Men at that
institution. We did right well by ourselves, especially since Kansas
was then in the cellar.

We have won 16 championships in 24 years. That is the total
of championships won in both the Missouri Valley Conference and the Big
Six. The Big Six was organized in 1930 and we have won 9
championships in 1% ye in that organization.

Be 2,

I was also coach at the Central Missouri State Teachers
College at Warrensburg, Missouri, from 1914 to 1919, and we won 7 con-
secutive championships in the old Missouri conference, That was when
colleges and teachers colleges were combined in the Missouri conference.

: We have no All-American talent. Just a bunch of boys that
we hope will give a good account of themselves. I have some big boys,
_ however, this year, and this is the third time in my 25 years of coach-
ing that I have had a boy over 6 ft. 5. So tall boys are like good
tackles - they are pretty important.

I trust this gives you enough of a story for a yarn.

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education and Recreation,
FCA:AH Varsity Basketball and Basebell Coach.

 
 

West Salem, Ohio
September 15

Forrest Allen

Head Basketball Coach
University of Kansas
Lawrence, Kansas

Dear Phogs:
=e~-] am-preparing an article for CLICK Magazine concerning

the nation's badke thai in *41, ZT will potbe’able to cover. the Big
Six Conference personally and I desire a report from someone who knows
he. whys and wherefores of the sport of the court.

Therefore I wish you would write me a detailed report of. your
Jayhawkxers and of the other five conference schools. I'm backing
the Allen-coached athletes to repeat as champions because of their
coach and this tlie without Menze's Cyclones. How many times have
your quintets won hoopster honors in the Big Six since it was formed,
Pheg? — — : Sea sam ae

I would appreciate all the dope you can give me as quickly as
possible. Engleman and your own son will be hard to replace. Did
you lose Kline also? I was fortunate enough to witness the Jayhawk-
Cornhusker fray in Weick Howard tallied 24 points as did the Lincoln
Lad Sid Held.

If you have any All-American talent, please enclose snap of same,

Best of luck in: '41,
Mack McGinnis

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Sept. 22, 1941

Mrs. Marie McMarrow

828 E. Drive

Oklahoma City, Okla.

Dear Mrs. UcMarrow,

I trust you will pardon my Gélay in answering your kind note
of the 4th instant, but the rush of enrollment has caused ne
to delay much of my correspondence.

I am very happy to enclose some football schedules and trust
that you will be able to see most of the games.

With all good wishes I am

Sincerely yours,

Director of Physical Education and Recreation
FCA/pg Varsity Basketball Coach

 
 

December 11, 1941e .

I went to assure you again of my pleasure in
visiting with you and John. I trust thet everything
goes nicely with you during the next few nonthss —

With best wishes of the Yuletide season, I am

Very sincerely yours,

Direetor of Physical Education and Recreation,
FCAsAR Varsity Basketball and Baseball Coache

 
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