THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Grorce W. Rigutmrre, President D NT oF Puysicar E T EPARTMENT OF Puysicat EpucATION COLUMBUS L. W. Sr. Joun, Director February 13, 1939 Mire We Ae Witte Te tetentbtr of ton Laramie * Dear "Duteh"s iy ont leg ag By Boson ay AL pogecthing tb peenthats of holding a tournament in District j/7 Roe the Gaeta a to be held in San Franeiseo. Ag I have indicated in previous correspondence, I have the feeling that, generally speaking, if we can possi ae representa= tives from each of the eight WsCs4.d. districts without resorting to playeoffs within each district that that is the thing wich should be donee I ama little afraid that if we had a playeoff, such as you have indicated in District /7, then follow that up, say a week later, with come Very sincerely yours, “uC? He Ge Olsen Chairman, NeleAsAse Basketball Tournament Comittee f f i é NG aga Rd ck Ai git See see Pc tal ah en Bes ee: ; my : ik £ ; = t goa die bet I ae aches a abdicate 2 Seen SMe SE Tes . BS SAD ee SE SS as, See rs enh Sng res rm va eey sok sc Woke =e ss a Ligh 2 ais eet es at tak as SS: Br A lees Soh eT Picomitiedhe. ik Si eae gods Iii ae lll Oto csibiarle liaise ct lls ie sees tcemacrcha a5 arse rls Pha Se 35: ter hoe 4 a d STANFORD UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF THE DEAN OF MEN ae he eh Se cg i oe DMs COS sees Shei ie Te! il 1 al Lea STANFORD UNIVERSITY, CALIFORNIA February 16, 1939 ee Ne ce aad Blasco iti Dr. F. ©. Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear "Doc:" UO em eae BRO SOR CINE an si aa aN Si a PR vk le te I have just received a copy of Olsen's letter a of February 13 to you. I sincerely hope that it will ; be possible for you to get out here for the play-off 4 for I am sure that you would be invaluable in making contacts and helping with the arrangements. I have noted the statement concerning the date of the final game in Chicago. My own reason for objecting to the date of March 27 was the fact of ab- sence from school. I suggested to Olsen, however, that he secure the opinion of all the districts before he set the final date. I did not feel that the three games in one week would be too strenuous. The train ride from here to Chicago will give an excellent opportunity for rest. Then after playing on Saturday night the teams could get back for classes early the following week. This point, I think, must be taken into consideration. I shall, however, be glad to abide by the majority deci- sion if there is still some question about the final | date. a Very cordially yours, February 20, 1939. ire John W. Bum, Stenford University, Caiifernine Bear Joime I em enclosing sone additional publicity: for the NeCeAcie tournanent, regarding this Indian boy on the Oklahoma As and Me tean. As you doubtless Imow, the Missouri Valley Con~ ference has a ruling that any craduate of a junior college may automatically exter a university and play on the teem in the same yeore i understand this is about the eame ruling that the Pacific Coast Conference hate However, as I understand it, this is the exception= the boy does not have to declere his intention of soing to that rarticular school. This mkes rather a “umting ground" out of this Idind of a proposition. If a coach needs a star player he can go out and get hime And this Indien is a real star =~ we lmow, because we played against hime Cordially yours, lirector of Physical Education, FCAsAH Varsity Basketball Coache OFFICE OF THE DEAN OF MEN STANFORD UNIVERSITY STANFORD UNIVERSITY, CALIFORNIA February 20, 19393 Dr. Forrest C. Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear "Doc:" I have just wired Harold Olsen that the com- mittee here in the 8th District is agreeable to the change of date for the final play-off to March 27. I wrote you previously my one concern was that of absence from school. It seemed to me that this outweighed all other factors. still think se but ¢ rest of the committee. committee was polled aes Po gests In a number of your letters you have referred ertainly do not wish to oppose the - Evidently this was not the case. It was my understanding that the date of March 25 was decided after the opinion of the whole to the lateness of the date for our tournament out here. I hope you will appreciate the fact that this is the earli- est possible date (it could be held on March 17 and 18 which I is practically the same time) that the tournament could be held, and still have the representation of the 8th District. The Pacific Coast Conference championship play-off is sched- uled for March 10, 1 ~end until March 4. 1 and 13. Our regular season does not This schedule has been followed for years so,if the N.C.A.A. tournament is to be continued and the 8th District is to be represented, it will be necessary to hold our play-off around the 20th of March each year. this is to be opposed by the general committee, then I think ae it should be considered in Chicago so that if any possible adjustments can be made in the Pacific Coast Conference there will be ample time to consider them. Very cordially yours, rs ale February 25, 1939. | I believe our difficulty in the whole situation, Jom, has been that we have had too few commmications with the chairmans While | Harold and you were out in California you remember that Harold phoned m@e I received no other commmication from him then until I received his wire on January 25, as follows: . On January 26 I received an onionsiin copy of the letter that sent to He He Salmon, you, and Bill Chandlere I find that.I have . a of letters; two on January 21, one on January on January 28, one on January 25, and several in Decenbere I In all these letters I endeavored to find out : : rere a Ha i aptit he Hill ts Ee ag-d ug 48 Hay qh ilies ih 3 g2y38 SH veGUb sca, REE fe a? ; dgsbhyosgig ti Ak ee Aas . aie agidg angi 433 88 aftii ie deab ly ae i; bs AGH fe aay Hee ay diag Uh abt eae ada tsi iss3 35g 3, teat a | E Wap: £33 i RE gue tye Jzbgbibdaes HL nal "a a “He TF Beil Houtiilas ul And here's another thought. _ Director of Physical Education, Varsity Basketball Coach. FCAsAH OFFICE OF THE DEAN OF MEN STANFORD UNIVERSITY, CALIFORNIA February 24, 1939 be. Fs C.: &iien Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear "Doc:" Thank you for the material on Okla- homa A. & M. The junior college ruling for the Missouri Valley Conference is the same as that here on the Pacific Coast. No boy in our junior colleges out here need declare his intention of going to any particular university. The boy may also compete immediately after his registration. It has seemed to me that this has been a very fair rule. The boys who have at- tended junior colleges before going on to uni- versities are in this way not penalized in their athletic competition because of such scholastic procedure. © | Very cordially yours, Lawrence, Kenses Februery 28, 1959 Mr. George Edverds, Columbia, Missouri. Mre Ce Ee McBride, Kansess City, Missouri. Mre Je Ce Truesdale Grinnell, lowa. Gentlemen: Our committee is expected to pick a representative from the Fifth District to play with the other districts, Six, Seven and Bight, at Sen Francisco to determine the winner rho will represent the western section for the netionel title et the vley-off in Northwestern University gymnasium on Merch ete There is no formel rule of procedure end it is up t 9 our committee to make some such determination for the play-off. Doubtless the Oklahome Aggies will have won or have slready won in the Missouri Valley championship. Should there be 9 two-way tie in the Big Six I em not sure just what the committee's feel- ing should be in deciding how the play-off should be arranged. | There hes been some discussion that the Oklahoma Aggies heve been invited to the New York tournerent. I have no definite informa- tion thet they sre entertaining the thought of accepting the New York proposal. I eam merely rriting this letter so that you can turn over in your minds the necessary procedure that should be fol- lowed soon after the Big Six championship is decidede If you now have a solution or an idea toverd e solution re rould be very happy to have ite Very cordially yours, FCA :AP Cheirman, Fifth District, N.C.A.A. February 28, 1939 Lire Ce Be MeBride, Sports Desk, The Kansas City Star, © Kansas City, Moe Dear Macs This is just a “fecler" that I em sending out to the connittes. No doubt our conference will be represented, and I believe wo should begin with preliminary planse I thought poss our camittee could have a meeting in Kansas City after ee ee eee ae ee This would be @ conven= Cordially yours, Chairman, Sth District, NeCeAhe THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY ea COLUMBUS DEPARTMENT OF PuysicaAL EDUCATION L. W. St. Joun, Director March 2, 1939 Dr. Forrest C. Alien Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear “Phog™: As indicated in my wire to you, I don't understand the state- ment you received in a letter from John Bum in which he stated that the tournament out there could have been held on March 17-18. As you may re= call, the first announcement regarding the San Francisco play-off was that the play-off would be held on Treasure Island on March 17-18. Those were the dates agreed upon by Bum, Major McChrystal and myself on December 26. On January 15, I received a letter from Bunn from which I will quote a portion: "Since the conference with the Fair officials on the western playeoff, it has been necessary to change the dates from March 17#18 to March 20821. It did not seem possible for MeChrystal to completely clear the original dates. I found by checking travelling schedules that the teams would miss one day less of school if they played on March 20@21 than they would if they played on March 17-18. I think, therefore, that there can be no objection to holding the tournament on the first of the week." On January 18, 1 sent the following wire to Bunn: "Plenning final game Chicago ,Saturday,March 25. Suggested dates of March 20, 21 appear impossible because winning western team cannot arrive Chicago in time for final game. By all means stick to original dates of 17 end 18. I feel we should do this even if it means taking the event to San Francisco and running it in the Auditorium. Please settle this finally and let me know by wire earliest opportunity." Then on January 21, I received the following wire from Bunn: “March 20 and 21 only possible dates. Bicycle races as per my letter and preparation for elimination tournament here make early date impossible. Train connection permits western winner to arrive Chicago evening March 24. Fair will pay first class fare. Suggest you confirm date as tentatively arranged. Least amount of absence from school this way." And so, in accordance with the information I received from Bunn, as indicated above, I told him to go ahead and plan on the dates of March 20 and 21. So can you wonder that I am at a loss to see how Bunn could say in a letter to you that the tournament out there could have been held on March 17 and 18? You figure it out, I can't. March 2, 1939 Please give me the word just as soon as you have made a selection in district #5. It is important that we have these se= lections in all districts at the earliest possible moment. Kindest regards. Very sincerely yours, 4 . He Ge Olsen Chairman, N.c.4.4. Basketball Tournament Committee Lawrence, Kansas . March S$, 1959 Myre He Ge Olsen, Chairman, - NeCohode Basketball Tournament, Ohio State University, Columbus, Chios | Dear Ole: : after Mondaye = ialiek Ge bieree Siaeel. sb niles ot en dei = Pe ee ee Merch s sy eae It mayene tint the Olam sggion tave he flag - cinched in the Missouri Valley Conference, so they must be dered atan early reckonings oe for that reason that I an using every . possible date advantage to ha ne ay core ene ee: Cotes See oe ee Truesdale meet in Kansas City, but it will, of course, be impossible to have the meeting any sooner. I am sure you will » sgroo vith the nevensity of mating atl we Dave wanting to douse with assurance. ee cooperation in bringing the Big Six representative participating team to the front at the earliest date. Possibly 4 might have been my letter to John Bunn chout wool ago that caused Min to set the datos Marah 27 end 10. i complained rather bitterly that I did not think that the general com= sAtens tak Lakiad Geake conateh istebitgnens sak wakermeemig Bee somely enough before the semi«final and final dates were sete I [42 _ aati : ii ua it a ate i iy Ta itp ii my pil . i ie ti ite 3 . i ti 3343 sibs | ut a i oe pel: i ay aoy igs ti ° 3 inal i id Hit sii + ri ig” One Ay 1 ffi iii él ee iia ane { ul pe 8 332 ; i len aul ie ‘ast it; i it : at s3 ai ui ey HH Wai Os bhai He i CLASS OF SERVICE 1201 F SYMBOLS : rats is a po ee DL=Day Letter elegram or je- a pi its de- (5 5) NL=Nighe Letter erred character is in- a : dicated by a suitable LC=Deferred Cable symbol above or pre- NLT =Cable Night Letter ceding the address. R. B. WHITE NEWCOMB eee J. Cc. WILLEVER > Ship Radiogram i PRESIDENT FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT The filing time shown in the date line on telegrams and day letters is STANDARD TIME at point a origin, Time of receipt is STANDARD TIME at point of destination Received at 646 Massachusetts St., Lawrence, Kansas. Phone 2764 KR260 49 DL=COLUMBUS OHIO 1 510P O20 WAR | PM 4 55 DR FORREST C ALLEN= -UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS URGE EARLY DECISION REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT 5 SANFRANCI SCO PLAYOFF* FULL EXPENSES TOTAL PARTY 12 GUARANTEED SANFRANCI SCO PARTICIPANTS» ALSO FOR WINNER TO. CHICAGO, FINAL GAME. DONT UNDERSTAND BUNNS STATEMENT REGARDING: POSSIBILITY PLAYING TOURNAMENT MARCH 17TH 18TH THOSE WERE ORIGINAL DATES SELECTED: AND WERE CHANGED ONLY AT) INSISTANCE OF BUNN cael eba FOLLOWSs @H G- OLSEN 7 7 Soe Da 5 1° 4 7 1¢£ gx (PANE WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESTIONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICE. March 4, 1939. tis aul { OEE i aH aly I Te sus HTS ds altace at Teh 4 ii An extract froa my letter te John Bum of this date is as follows: at | i il ee i Hip yours, Chairmen, Sth District, N.CeAcls TTR TET —— uh Hie i cel t re te ite a Hi te a a ie He HG ai whee tus © of the latter wo tee you x a ress ~ 3 Z ne if it ith i a i in i qi tf Ht i} yi Hi i H i faaglise i fe i 1 a a tat i eh a itd fh Hill A ie Hh Fe 3344 so L . Hi i ee i | : ee i idle i | | s TH é f. a a ult : “ae iil uit i : no i aa gu aide ; pa f lf ie ae i : lel wie aa Bayt He i, i ak aes ie eh - # i eA ala si etn ly li] 4 Hea iil Ht a a a th : as He ve THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Gerorce W. RicuTmire, President DEPARTMENT OF PuysicaAL EDUCATION L. W. Sr. Joun, Director Ma GObUM BS « S» Chandler Dr. Fe Ce Allen He BH. Salmon, dr. John Bum Dear Sirs In order that we may have appropriate hies ready in time, we must come to some decision as to what : » Cups, eto., we are going to give the winmers in the N.C.A.ds Tournament. The N.CeAsde, some years ago, had Dre MoKensie design a wery fine medal which bas been used in the N.C.AsAs track meets for years and, I believe, is considered the official N.C.AsA. medal. 1 am wondering if we shouldn't adopt and use that same medal for our tournament with appropriate engraving, of course, on the back, rather than to try to design a medal ¥ is distinctively basketball. — : Do you feel we should have, in addition to individual medals, some sort of team trophies for the winners and the rumereup? I would appreciate an inmediate reply with respect to these questions. ; Very sincerely yours, “ “ H. Ge Olsen Chairman, N.C.AsAs Basketball HGO st Tournament Committee