RILEY 2419 BOS me HERFF-JONES Co. INCORPORATED Manufacturing JEWELERS and STATIONERS 1407-1419 NORTH CAPITOL AVENUE INDIANAPOLIS 3-15 --40 Salesman HOuSe = 85550 Soldto Dr. Forest C. Allen, Via express Unigersity of Kansas. Lawrence, Kansas. TERMS + NC AA trophy - Lrophy March 81, 1940 He Ge Olsen, Hotel Lincoln, Indianapolis, Inde Have received from Herff-Jones Company only team trophies winner and rumer-up Western play-off. Have not received individual trophies winner and runner-up Western play~off nor individual trophies for final gemee Will you check on these immediately? Forrest Ce Allens CLASS OF SERVICE 1201 SYMBOLS 4 : This is a full-rate DL=Day Letter Telegram or Cable- if laa as its de- ( 4 NL=Night Letter erred character is in- 2 dicated by a suitable a J sie, Pea Deterred Cate symbol above or pre- NLT =Cable Night Letter ceding the address. R. B. WHITE NEWCOMB CARLTON J. Cc. WILLEVER 5 Ship Radiogram ? PRESIDENT CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FIRST VICE-PRESIDENT The filing time oe in the date line on sips satin and day letters is STANDARD TIME at point of origin. Time of receipt is STANDARD TIME at point of destination KAD51 16 SER= AU INDIANAPOLIS IND 21 135P (OMAK 2) Py 2 47 DR FOREST Cc ALLEN= UNI VERS TY OF KANSAS *NCAA WESTERN PLAYOFF CHAMPION» RUNNER UP & FINALS AWARDS ‘SHIPPED MARCH 20TH EXPRESS TO ABOVE ADDRESS SHERFF JONES COs vf NCAA 20%, THE COMPANY WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESTIONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICB HERFF-JONES Co. oe. INCORPORATED Manufacturing JEWELERS and STATIONERS 1407-1419 NORTH CAPITOL AVENUE INDIANAPOLIS 3-20-40 Salesman house 85552 Soldto Dr. Forest C. Allen, Via errr Tes University of Kansas. Lawrence, Kansas. TERMS 12 NC A A Belt buckles & belts - Western Playbff at 7 RILEY 2419 HERFF-JONES Co. INCORPORATED Manufacturing JEWELERS and STATIONERS 1407-1419 NORTH CAPITOL AVENUE INDIANAPOLIS _ 3-20-40 Salesman House 85547 ' Goldto Dr. Forest C. Allen, Via 6xpress Universty of Kansas. Lawrence, Kansas. TERMS 12 NCAA Basketballs -Western Playoff RILEY 2419 HERFF-JONES Co. INCORPORATED Manufacturing JEWELERS and STATIONERS 1407-1419 NORTH CAPITOL AVENUE INDIANAPOLIS 3-20-40 Salesman Whit 85548 Sold to Dr. Forest C. Allen, Via é@xpress University of Kansas. Lawrence, Kansas. TERMS 12 NC A A Basketballs, Finals 12 Basketballs December 20, 1940 Mre fe Eo Eilers Athletic Directors* Association of the Missouri Valley Conference Vashington University 3 Saint Louis, issouri Deer “Artie ~ I find thet I failed to weteeewies receipt of your good letter of November 16 regarding Dr. Ewerhardt's request | on information for the Ne Ce Ac Ae tournament. The tournament that was held in Kansas City was the Vestern Play-Off. The iastern Play-Off was in Indianapolis and the National Shampionships were played on the 30th of March. The Western was the 22nd and 23rd. All this information is in the Basketball Guide for this year, : Also I want to apologize for our not being able to get together more definitely with the Missouri Valley groupe We believe that our Big-Six people have corrected that evil for next year at least. You are always so cooperative that it wake2 me feel very guilty when we fail to measure Upe Wishing you the blessings of the Yuletide, and the best and happiest of New Years, I am, Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education and Recreation FCAsig:min Yarsity Basketball Coach Creighton University ss - Tulsa University Dralion: Unteersity Cklahoma Agricultural and Mechanical College Washburn: College Grinnell College at. tanks University Washington University ATHLETIC DIRECTORS’ ASSOCIATION of the MISSOURI VALLEY CONFERENCE Address Office of the Washington University EXECUTIVE SECRETARY Saint Louis, Missouri November 16, 1940 Mr. Forrest C. Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear "Phog":-— Dr. Ewerhardt is preparing a Fifth District report to appear in the Proceedings of the NCAA. With that thought in mind, what NCAA tournaments were nile in Kansas City last March? By that I want to be sure of the name, such as sectional or regional, orwhatever kind it would be. In this same cnnnection, can you give me the names of the contesting teams, when played, and the score. What games will be played in Kansas City next spring? In connection with the meeting at Kansas City early next month, I notice in the schedule released by Iowa State College that they have a game at hom on December 6. How is that going to affect the time of your open meeting. Please let me know the exact time of it. Most of our coaches will be there early the X7th. With kind personal regards, oa A. E. Hilers Executive Secretary AEE? mk a. : - | menos September 6, 1940 Snecubive Jommi ttee National Collegiete Athletic Associetion Gentlemen: The oes ee Ball ae omni t tee ont en aieted — Tournament Commi’ desire make ollow report on (2040 HeCeAeAs Basketball Tournament, tocether with some recom- mendations as to the conduct of future tournaments. Item 1 + ~ Tho financial report of the 1940 Tournanent (see attached eopeet) 1, That the 1942 Tournament be conducted as : between teams rep st to f20 ated senaennent re: the Hededohe assumes no financial Pesponeibil- are Se akeited an felines ; to =o rte cee chaste Een on the following basis: ‘Such emount es con}- atieutes the VES s0aki be Civided inte four Geen Und ned preseete of the 2000 temenment be distributed as follows: 265% to the NeCeAshs, $2500.00 to the NeCeAchs to repay deficit of the 1959 tournament. ee ee among competing teams accordance with method of distritution outlined above in 3 yeecumendation number foure | ie Ae Page 2 Ge That the N.CeAsAe encourage and subsidize ont, of nestotaass, sensteee, serwasndie as National Associ tion of Basketball Se The committee feels that the Tournament setup as above outlined provides the following benefitss | ie W421 creat a rennet anmereet in ——— ssaanaiane an ped Se Sait Daate am & daceebhe eves of Shmmnetad Ancome to the NeCsheshs : 4, Offers the means by which this i oan ge i dt ay ger Bhmme Phy wpe were dy @vent in the nations Respectfully submitted, \ He G. 0 isen, Chairman —« NeSeAcd, Basketball Tournement Coumittee é , September 4, 1940 REPORT OF N,C.A.A. BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT 1940 The Eastern play-off was held at the Butler Field House, Indianapolis, Indiana on March 22 and 23; the Western play-off at the Municipal Auditorium at Kansas City, Moe, March 22 and 23 and the final game was played at Kansas City on March 30, The following summary gives the picture of the Tournaments: Western play-off and final game, Kansas City Receipts $22,829.55 Expenditures 35665.-67 Net $9,163.88 Eastern play-off, Butler Field House Reccipts $6,405.75 Federal Tax on Comps from Indiana Univ. 19-00 6,424.75 Expenditures 5,224444 Net 1,200,31 Total Net Receipts $10,364e19 General Administrative Expense - for trophies, telegrams, postage, printing, travel, stenographic, etce 852 .07 Net profit on NeCeAsAe Basketball Tournament $9,512.12 COPY COPY : COPY Septe 6, 1940 Executive Committee National Collegiate Athletic Association Gentlemens The NeCeAcds Sasketball Rules Committee and the NeCAeA. Tournament Committee, desire to make the following report on the 1940 NoCeAeche Basketball Tournament, together with some recommendations as to the conduct of future tournaments Oy Item 1 = ‘The. financial report of the 1940 teubnaneat. is attached report) " S - Recommendations: Le That the 1941 Tournament be conducted as follows: An eastern play-off between teams representing Districts l, zy 3 and 4, and a western Piayeots between teams — ce Nesters piaynett be held at Kansas City and the sanaean ables @£P at a place to be designated by the Tournament committees Te That a final game between the winners of the eastern and ‘western play-offs be held at Kansas City on March to - determine the NeCeAeAe Basketball Championship, - Be That teams to represent each district be selected by Selection Committeese Selection to be made whenever possible on the basis of the season's record rather than by play-offse When= ever play-offs within a district become necessary to determine district representative the NeCeAeA. assumes no financial re- sponsibility, and receives no share of the receipts from ra @ playwoff. .. 3. That competing teams be allowed expenses for a total party of 15 men, to eastern and Western play-offs and to the final games 4 That net proceeds of NeCeAede Tournaments after all expenses (including team expenses) are paid, be divided as follows: 25% to the NeCeAcde, 75% to the competing teams on the follow- ing basis; Such amount as constitutes the 75% shall be divided into fourteen equal parts, one part going to each of the eight competing teams and an additional one part to each of the four semi-finalists and an additional one part to each of the finalists. Se That the net proceeds of the 1940 tournament be distributed as follows; 25% to the NeCeAche, $2500200 to the NeCoActe to repay deficit of the 1939 tournament. Remainder to be distributed among competing teams in accordance with the method of distribution outlined above in recommendation number fours Ge That the NeCeAsAe encourage and subsidize out of basketball receipts worthwhile basketball research problems worked out by the National Association of Basketball Coachese The committee feels that the Tournament set-up as above outlined provides the following benefits; Le Will create a ‘piantaie interest in 5 Wabaaitane’) basketball by enlisting ‘more representative teams from all the districts, 2» Will make for greater cohesion of the eight collegiate districts. 3. Will serve as a definite source of financial ineome to the NeCoAshe 4 Offers the means by which this tournament can be. cpsheyes into the , —a basketball event in the nations ee ‘Respectfully submitted, — Joelle Ste ce Chairman NeCohehe ‘Basketball Rules Comittee Dre Fe Ce Anien, Menke oe Western | of f & Final — a, “He Ge olsen, csr Comittee a ee RS ny eT ES ee NNR S Aa as ee COPY COPY COPY September 4, 1940 _ REPORT or BB shohs pee el 1940 The Eastern siisaiee was hela at the Butler Field hin Indianapolis, | Indiana on March 22 and 233 the Western play-off at the Mumicipal Auditorium at Kansas City, Moe, March 22 and 23 and the final game was played at — Kansas City on March 30¢ The following sumary gives the picture of Alb Tecriamss Western play-off and final game, Kansas City Receipts apne ae ‘Expenditures 2B e868 267 | ae ke toes : mastorn play-off, Butler Field House eee ‘Doeet yea _ Batons Indians A Ue a0 Oe Total Net Receipts $10,564.19 General Administrative Expense - for trophies, telegrams, postage, printing, — stenpgraphin, ete ; 852.07 Net profit on NeCeAede Basketball Tournament $9,512.12 7 isin on RES COPY — COPY COPY September 10, 1940 Mre HeGe Olsen Basketball Coach Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio — = Dear *Ole"s As a matter of formal record I am attaching excerpts from minutes of the Executive Comittee meetings bearing on disposition of matters pere taining to the ‘basketball Ser le Recomendation of the Rules Committee for holding the 1941 tournament finals in Kansas City, Moe mas approvede 2 Following a full éeouseiin of the recommendations of the Basketball Rules Committee regarding the vroerating of tournament receipts, it was voted to amend the Executive Regulations as follows: | Section 4 of Division II of ‘the Executive Regulations was amended to reads | Distribution of Resei ae ‘The income from chanplenahiip and tourname 1 be applied and distributed as follows: | (1) To pay the expenses a conduoting and promoting the meet or tournaments = (2) Ten pereent of the net receipts (after dbtetting the expenses specified in Subdivision 1) shall be: paid to the general fund of the Association, (3) The balance of net receipts, up to the amount of the traveling expenses of competitors, may be prorated among the competing institutions, Such traveling expenses shall be limited to first vlass railroad fare and standard (lower - berth) pullman, with no coverage for hotel bills, meals and other expenses. In the case of track and field — championships the prorating for payment of traveling expenses shall be limited to point winners in the meets | (4) Any balance of net receipts (after deduction of the items Treasurer of the’ Association and distributed by him as - follows: &o To repay to the genie fuad of the Association the amount of any deficit incurred in previous years in the sport involved. he: If any balance remains, fifty pereent thereof shall be paid to the general fund of the Association and fifty percent may be prorated to the competing institutions, on a basis determined by the rules committee of the sport and approved by * the Executive Comnittee. = : It was understood that this Reputatsin was to be made retroactive to apply to the 1940 basketball tournament; and that in the case of the basketball tournament, playoffs and finals be dealt a for re purposes, as @ single tournament. Se The recommendations of the basketball rules committee for the proration of receipts (under paragraph ds section (4) above) for the 1940 and 1941 basketball tournaments was approved, as follows: Such amount shall be divided inte fourteen equal parts, one part going to each of the eight competing teams and an additional one part ot each of the four semi-finalists and an additional one part to each of the finalistse ae The full text of these actions “un, of course, be published in the ee ‘Cordially, John Le Griffith ce to Mre JeWe St. Clair Dre Fe Ce Allen copy copy copy COLUMBUS Septe 16, 1940 Major John Le Griffith Hotel Sherman Chieago, Illinois I have your letter in which you give me as a excerpts from the Executive Committee meetings on the matters pertaining to the basketball tourmament. I E at i il i ef i ty ei ba if Ege ur. ie felt Hi eine. fit sized ist it 3 ee ri E l that those playeoffs within a district which were looking forward to selecting the representative from that district would be handled by the teams involved; that they would stand the risk and that they would get profite which came fron such play-offs As to the Noatorn playcoft and Matern play-off and the final game however, it ws my understanding we should be able to guarantee expenses of the teams which are involved. | Now, in your notations regarding the distribution of receipts, your third item dealing with the balance of net receip states that traveling expenses, that is, first class reilroad fare and standard lower berth pullman only should bepaid, thet there should be no payment of hote} bills, meals and other exe as : not my understanding and I don't believe we should be operating on that basis in our basketball tournament. Im other words, I believe there should be a slight change in this matter of distribution of receipts to conform with what, I am sure, was the understanding of our Rules Comittee men with respeet to item three under the general heading “Distribution of Receipts" in your letter of September 10. 2 (RST aA ec Septe 16, 1940 you as to whether this would be a Chairman, NeCekehe Basketball Tournament Comittee ‘I would appreciate some word fron method for us to follows Very sincerely yours, HeG, Olsen Jelle St. Clair Dre Fee Allen LeWe Ste John proper Copies to President W.B. Owens ia; HGOsM Feailiiaes, Gat satists Oe. .> ees eau: - a ate eee A) sear ees < ameeneaesane Be GME et Reg Rafe eA ae eS, co: September 27, 1940 Very cordially yours, Director of Physical Education and Recreation Varsity Basketball Coach FOAslg : THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Howarp L. Bevis, President DEPARTMENT OF PuysicAL EDUCATION L. W. St. Joun, Director COLUMBUS September 24, 1940 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kensas Dear "Phog": I hope you approved of the point which I made in . the letter to Griffith, regarding the matter of guaranteeing expenses for our Basketball Tournament. I personally feel very strongly that while the event should pay out in such & way as to give them expenses or more under the set-up as outlined by him, still it will hamper us considerably to have to argue about the point. We have to be able to say “we guarantee”. I hope you will find it convenient pretty soon to send along the last part of your report so I can get this whole thing cleaned up with Griffith. With kindest regards. Very sincerely yours, aft VO a, Ge Olsen Chairman, N.c.A.A. Basketball HGO:M Tournament Committee corr ues > Sp i382 E- : i ; yf i. He Sof ti a hid pel “a ala Ghwe Very sincerely yours, Hele Olsen Chairman, NeCelede Basketball Tournament Committee September 27, 1940 Dre Je We Ste Clair Director of Physical Education Southern Methodist University Pallas, Texas Dear Saints I am sending you a copy of a letter I have received from Ole, together with my reply to hime I have not said what I am = to do until I receive Major Griffith's reply to Olsene I think it is the worst that anyone could imagine, especially oo eee good for somethings Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education and Recreation Varsity Basketball Coach FOAsig Ure Harold G» Olsen Ohie State University Columbus, Ohic Dear Oles ) | | ° I just received your urgent comnunication and I am airemiling & reply so that you will get it at the earliest possible moments KE You imow, Ole, I will agreo to most anything for the sake of harmony — and compatibility, but I think aftcr we had a clear out and out understanding with these people and then for them to eume back with the statement that they did, that it can hardly be charged to misunderstanding or even neglects with anything but e failure sign tacked to it before we started. we can since basketball has made money and will make money everywhere that we t 5 g é | : . E that was unfair, but ff we are going to uake our tou: & success ~ we cannot split pennies, especially when we are making larse I am going tobe perfootly frank with you, as I have always been, — but i think we need to protect our tourmamont. If not, I think we had = better give it upe I om not hardboiled, and I do not want to make eny = tH that I mow you will protect the tournament, if it is within your powers For | of | thet reason I am not in favor of giving up this point,--that must of necessity be retained to make our tournament whet you and the rest of us who worked so _ i Mre Olsen. Page 2 : Octe 3, 1940 I am glad that you like the copy of the Basketball Guides I thought John Doyle did a swell job for us in putting the National Collegiate tournament in the front spot positions I thought your article wae splendid also, Ole, and I congratulate all the collaboratorse I am — glad you liked tho Dre Naismith article. I did my very best to pay a tribute to a fine, Christian gentlemane Sincerely yours, Direstor of Physical Sdueation and Resreation Varsity Basketball Coach ae FCAs1g THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Howarp L. Bevis, President DEPARTMENT OF PuysicAL EDUCATION L. W. St. Joun, Director COLUMBUS October 1, 1940 Dr. Forrest c. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear "Phog”: I have received a reply to my letter to Major Griffith, with respect to our being able to guarantee expenses for basketball teams in the Eastern and Western play-offs and the final game. He has agreed that that was the understanding and was the way basketball should be handled. I think the statement as sent out in his letter was a hangover from their idea that they wanted some rule that would cover all sports. Well, that just doesn't work out in our case and I have his agreement to make an exception for basketball, the same as they have made to the general rule for the track event, so we are at liberty to go ahead with the matter of guaranteeing the teams' expenses when they participate in the Tourna- ment. That does not include however the play-offs within any district. President Owens, at one time or another, has suggested allowing expenses at the rate of $5 per day per man and Griffith asked me what I thought of that amount. I, in turn, am asking you if you think that is adequate and I would like to hear from you on this point before I answer Griffith. I know that out on the Coast when you are traveling there, most of the time you can secure ac- commodations, hotel and meals, for the flat rate of $5 per day. Possibly that would be a good figure for us to adopt, but if we think that isn't adequate it seems to me we should so indicate now. Please write me about this. By the way, 1 just received a copy of the Basket- ball Guide and I notice they gave our National’ Collegiate Tournament the first position and a fine space. I also note the fine article which you had on Dr. Naismith. Congratulations! V j 1 GET y yours, He G Olsen Chairman, N.C.A.A. Basketball HGO:M Tournament Committee October 5, 1940 Mr. Harold olen Basketball “cach Ohio State Uhiversity Columbus, Chio 3 3 Dear Oles I just snibiee your wrguih commmeliihan and I on @iremailing — = Sepey Oe er yee ek ont Ce aS oe You know, Ole, I will agree to mosh dating Sir the ane of eemiy and compatibility, but I think after we hed e elesr outeand-out understanding Co ee Ge oe ee ee ee | they did, that it can hardly be charged to misunderstanding or even neglects The way that it was worded made me definitely feel that while they were trying Te ee ee Liny So. ennnythings SS oe Siete Se ; our sports so thet we could not heve gone threugh with another tournament — ee ee ee ee ee fi : ih es £ f to be perfectly frank with you, as I have always been, but I think we need to protect our tournament; if not, I better give it upe I am not hardboi and I do not want to make any be roteined to sake our tourmmant shat you Sad the rest of us whe. worked 6