p. Meroh Gy 1940. ! § f i A i a fi ant iy iil aii #5 iets nn to pln 38 in in Forrest Cy Allen, Chairmn, Sth Diste MeCeieie City to cabinet noved that wo Basketball casittee to York to Oldlahonn desirous tournenentt se 2. = final as far Lone is ==. - i te ie 7 [ente; Aba air fran Coumedl, Ae & Me , dahon. times and it ‘tenn play in Ge Allen, towremert on night of March 16. Ae & Me College, eumny tie in Big Sise ¢ See oe you thene ‘i uew f rey wench A i Lewrence, Kans Tite Pe Ce February 28, 1940. Mitte He Ge Olson, Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohide Rear "Ole": I lwve just talked to Hank Iba, of Olkimham. Ae & Me over lone distance and he assures me that without So there is no question about Hank Iba going through on the tournmanent plays If we could have half as good cooper= ation fron the eastern distriets east of the Mississippi River es we have from om western half, tho NeCeAeie would eversheln the whole courtry in basketball populeritye lank hes had a great mmber of carmmications fron Everett Morris and fran Ned Irish and the rest of the boys : 2 him, but he will stey with us. You can af ; ie sli ‘. : eft yt qicf ij eee ha 8 it : 7 4 t a t e i¢ B i : § | s ( #8 Te ie ite itn Hub i ie cf uy ra efieter ule ie THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Gerorce W. RicutTmire, President DEPARTMENT OF PuysicAL EDUCATION L. W. Sr. Joun, Director COLUMBUS February 26, 1940 Mr. Philip 0. Badger New York University Washington Square New York, N. Ye Dear Phils: I am hastening to answer your letter of February 23, because I feel that its contents are most important to our National Tournament. I have been watching with a good deal of interest the fine record which New york University has been making in basketball this season and have been hoping all along that for the sake of the Tournament New York University would continue to stay out in front. And now that you mention the possibility, which you discussed with Irish the other day, of playing the first round of the Tournament in the Garden on March 22: and then taking the final geme for the Eastern play-off Championships to some other site on Saturday night, I think we have the ideal answer to a location for the Eastern playeoff. In other words, New York Univere sity, representing District 2, with the Garden as a place to play the games, even for one night, makes a perfect set-up. I am sure there would be a satisfactory court available for the Saturday night game and if the Garden management is at all reasonable, and I am sure they would be, we would have an assured financial success for the Eastern play-off with this sort of a programe As I see it, New York University can't miss receiving the sew lection as the NeCeAeA. toam to represent District 2. That fact makes me very happy because I know of your interest and prominence in all N.C.AsA. affairs and I know how you have helped to forward the interest of this National Tournament. And so with New York University selected to repree sent District 2, I.would hope that you would exert your influence to assure the participation of New york University in the Eastern play-off, especially would I feel you could urge this because with the Eastern play= offs being held in New York, as indicated above, that would mean no loss of time from classes, and assuming New York would go through to win the Eastern playeoff, the one game at Kansas City would not involve much loss of time,ft being a Saturday night game. There is also the possibility that the New York University team could fly to Kansas City for such a game and such a procedure would mean little, if any, loss of time from school. I am certainly hopeful that you would feel as I do about the worthwhileness of New York's participation in the Eastern play-off. Your letter has made me very enthusiastic for the success of the whole Tourns= ment for this season. I feel certain we have a very satisfactory seteup at Kansas City and that it will carry its part of the program in a fine manner, and now if we could have this Garden seteup, with the New york University as one of the teams, I am sure we can wipe out completely the P.O.Be #2 February 26, 1940 deficit which the Tournament incurred last season. I hope you will see your way clear to discuss this matter immediately upon receipt of my letter and I will be hoping for a wire or a call from you within a few days, telling me that if New York University is selected from District 2 and the play-off is To be held in New York as indicated, that New York University will come in. Just as soon as I could get such word from you I would be able, I am sure, to get the approval of our General Come mittee for holding the Eastern play-offs in New York and we would go about settling that date in the Garden immediately. Perhaps since everything is contingent upon New York University's attitude, it might be advisable, if you are agreeable to playing in the Eastern play-off, to contact Irish immediately and sew up that date even before you cone tact me again. Garden arrangements, looking after NeC.AsAe interests, etc., could very well be handled by you. Thanks a lot for your letter and everything you have done in helping along with this Tournament, and thanks in advance for what I am sure will be a favorable replys I don't see how it could be otherwise and I feel definitely that if we can't secure a team like New York University, under conditions such as we have this year, that the whole idea of the National Tournament ought to be thrown right out the window. Very sincerely yours, Ez. Ge Diecn Chairman, NeCeAsAe Basketball HGO:M fournament Committee V comDr. F. C. Allen March 16, Dr. F. C. Allien, Chairman Fifth District, N.C.AA. University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen: I have read over carefully your letter to "Ole" Olsen with respect to expenses for your district tournament. I would suggest that we go into the matter of expenses to teams rather thonoughly when we meet in Chicago. I am not in favor of subsidizing the teams that attend tourna~ ments to the extent that they are all in search of a crown of gold, 7 Legitimate expenses are all right but if we make a commercial proposition out of the event then we place it in the same category as track. "Bill" Qwens, who is president of the N.C.A.A., has some very definite convictions con- cerning expenses to teams. I suggest therefore that we proceed in this matter with some caution. Our next meeting will give us an opportunity to deal with the problem face to face, Very cordially yours, John Bunn Representative from the 8th District National Basketball Committee NATIONAL COLLEGIATE A. A. CHAIRMEN OF SUB-COMMITTEES Executive H. H. SALMon, Jr. Research : Forrest C. ALLEN Game Administration © Sumner A. Dote Complete List of Committee Members F. C. Allen Univ. of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas John Brown 347 Madison Ave. New York, New York John Bunn Stanford Univ. Palo Alto, California J. H. Crocker - Univ. of Western Ontario London, Ont., Canada M. C. Cundiesten High School Desloge, Missouri Sumner A. Dole Connecticut State College Storrs, Connecticut H, D. Edgren George Williams College Chicago, Illinois E. J. Hickox Springfield College Springfield, Massachusetts Frank P. Maguire Dept. of Public Instruction Harrisburg, Pennsylvania W. E. Meanwell Shorewood Hills Madison, Wisconsin Curtis Parker Centennary College Shreveport, Louisiana H, V. Porter 11 So. LaSalle St. Chicago, Illinois Samuel Rogers 210 Confederation Life Bldg. Toronto, Ont., Canada Floyd A. Rowe Board of Education Cleveland, Ohio J. W. St. Clair Southern Methodist Univ. Dallas, Texas H. H. Salmon, Jr. 40 Wall St. New York, New York ' Oswald Tower Andover, Massachusetts Willard A. Witte Univ. of Wyoming Laramie, Wyoming Publication Oswatp TOWER Questionnaire H. V. Porter % Ye Ure Y. M. C. A. CANADIAN I. A U. and A. B. A. NATIONAL FEDERATION H. S. A. A. NATIONAL BASKETBALL COMMITTEE of the UNITED STATES and CANADA Vice CHairMAN, JOHN BUNN Stanford Univ., Palo Alto, Cal. Treasurer, FLOYD A. ROWE Board of Education, Cleveland, Ohio Epitorn, OSWALD TOWER Andover, Massachusetts CuairMan, H. H. SALMON, Jr. ’ 40 Wall St., New York, N. Y. Secretary, H. V. PORTER ye v7 So. LaSalle St., Chicago, Illinois K o wt Lawrence, Kansas 4 Mareh 10, 1939 He Ge Olsen, Chairman, NCAAs Basketball Tournament Comittee. Mre John Bumn, Chairman, Western Regional Play-off, N.C Ache ve Gentlemen: I am somewhat perplexed over the division of the gate receipts on these district play-off tournaments. A little history or background of the situation would not be amiss. At our conference in Oklahoma City with Henry Iba, Ton Stidham and Bruce Drake, Iba. brought this very important point to the floor, Tha stated, and I mow it to be a fact, that he was invited to the Sport Writers Tournament in Madison Square Garden March 20-22. I believe that Frosty Cox has accepted, be- cause Utah State has been qualified for the tournament, and it is my understanding that Colorade won the Rocky Mountain Conference championships I received letters fran both Everett Morris and Ned Irish, as did the University of Texas, the Sixth District wimer, and others, inviting them to the tournament. It is my impression that these — people that stick by us in the N.C.A.A. play-off and go through with their as s should receive some considerations ‘Tha stated that he felt that in i i HU a me ta iil He aueeaueal Hi ay if sasii iss Le aS! FPP Pisa «* Achat tome the year of the Chympte pIay=oft. pls ‘It ie my opinion tint a definite long range view mst be taken. by the administrators of the N.C.AsA. of this very = important policy thet I have stressed, else we will find a rennin Se of sey Soph Senet in Some st pe Soe ments e oP erry teadit tte ath. tn: 0; shoe Stes, Se Maes uth Oe. Senta of our eollege coaches this problem, but before dis- | cussing the matter with then same broad policy should be out= | lined by the N.C.AA. administrators so that the college men rules cs -Z-woulé Kindly ask tint you éstersine fran. the leaders ond the adninistrators of the NCAAs what their attitude is so Io eee SOEs es an ad oe % ee ere ciate oe ss ae pats STE as Naa RIN ST ale ils BTS ae isa = e acu ee Sas 4 is bei. a usps eet ial ae i, aa e- ne Bees oe ; Oe te bs August 12, 1939. 3 | for the Big Six coin to see whether they Se td shoul klahome. 0 souri and would be agreeable to tossin = — ing if they let then play two out of three ‘% would be agreeable, the N.Celhe to that OF COURSE. I would or to , @ wanted ee to thes et t, the cut, of a oad aay sy aoa portion ae had lest jaar with Oklahoma A. I us somewhere around five then he: banks Toa said if we would have Drake, I would be agreeable cotinttry money in his fugures were high, : and the year ot With all good wishes, I em Sincerely yours, g ! r ‘ i FCA:AH July 5, 1939 Dear "Phog™: I unde@stand that the N.CeAsie Exooutive Comittee in session this last week e nd in New York voted to comtinue with the N.C.A.A. tournament, although I haven't had an official notification as yet. They were nmatur= ally disappointed because the tournament as a whole lost approximately $2,500. last seascne The play-off in yow district was the only part of it which prodused figures in the hindke I had a letter sanetine tack fran George Re Bimards, in which he males this statement: “Also, I wint you to mow that I think your choice of chmir- eer ae ae a Gr te cae oie a oe lee ee time to put in on it that he dide The fact that Missouri's faculty with= our team put the committee on the spot in the district tournament, but the members have expressed to me a desire to work with the N.CeAeAe in the ee e016" I thought you would be interested in this coment from Georges I bee lieve just as soon as the N.CeAcde gives the "go sign" on this tournament, plang should be as definitely draw as possible at the earliest moment, come fran su in our desire to put this tournament & pa basise After all, the advantage which the home team has in basketball isn't quite as great as it used to be, and in the face of the present situation I feel we must, at least for next year, overlook this home floor advantage. I hope you can see this point of view and go along with it because | certainly feel somewhat of a personal responsibility of trying in any wy we can, legitimtely, to wipe out the bad taste which the poor financial results of last year’s tournament has left in the mouths of the NeCAeAs sass baer st Sci a encase fie hy BARS lia Sal a ci als gi ina aS RG ie Ui sl ec a aia fie MERRIER EI . tN Nomar With beat péveennd regis, i om, Very sincerely yours, (Signed) OLE ae gl a August il, 19396 + epee i BE it at oe : a Heh ie i ie a pa i Tsay) i ipa ith hin Hay iat te ° arrive bok ‘38 ete 83 63 a es i ie ail aul i i Bi titled: a ln Nal a (mani ae iis 4 Riss lis J date staat? i327 i 5 uf + i ash “ii yi | i il 3 i ae Ae : iy siesta Jit 16D rbinsdie: iid fee se ie canal aljttel i i iy a a by Ee 32 ny i iba he 548; tae nt | i td i we As for Drake's difficul: it certainly was not the fault of Bill Williams, the athletic director, rather I lay most of the difficulty at the door of id Lytton, the business mnager of Drake University. Neither do I think Missouri's difficulty was due to George Edwardse It was certain meiieare a ur Gindtan waned Gah 14 ee plan FS tag,ieedd mat weak risk their chances with the Oklaham team, which most r considered a superior teem, And although the Missouri group were strong members of the NeColst» and had Chester Brewer there as one of their prominent officers, they left us in the lurch at a very critical mament. lowever, we pulled out of it and made the most of ite But it crippled our townament both from a standpoint of speetator interest, but the worst of it was when Missouri pulled out it looked like we were rumning a sideshows The fact that Hmil Liston had been running his tournament called the "National Intercollegiate Athletic Association Championship", and that his personnel in that tournament was largely of small colleges, ~ this nove barker sideshow. They thought it was. sanething that we individually were trying to promote, and we had ty in trying to get that inform- ation across. The general sidan dane euunaal one We "National Collegiate" — and the International Collegiate terminology. I am leaving Sunday for St. Louis to be there on business in connection with my new Goal-ili basket that I am promoting for playgrounds, Fran there I go to Atlanta, Georgia, where I will be wtil August 26th at the coaching school at Georgia Tech, And then I en returning to lawrence and setting up my publicity, entertaiment, and sales promotional activities on September 1. I expect to have everything lined up so that we will have a very intelligent and thorough campaign ih putting over this basketball pageant and spectacles i will be happy to hear from you should other angles occur to you during your vacation in Sarontis With ell good wishes, I am incerely yours, | Director of Physical Education and Recreation, FGA sAH Varsity Basketball] Coache Lawrence, Kansas Juné 3, 1940 Mre He Ge Olsen, Ohioe State University, Columbus, Ohice Dear Oles It looks as if the political situation may necessitate another change in the management of the auditorium in Kansas Citye For that reason I ree ceived a tip that it might be well to sign up for some dates next year, so last Saturday, among my other connections, I made a trip to the Municipal Auditorium and signed a contract with Mr. Bugene C. Zachman, the manager and director, for dates of the week of March 16 to 22, and from March 23 to 30, 1941. The auditerium is to receive $1.00, payment of which is hereby acknowledged by the lessor, plus twenty per cent of all gate receipts after deduction of federal and state texas. Ole, I am wondering if you are in a position to state when the tournament will be and whether the set up will be the same as it was last year with the eastern, western and later the final pleyeoff. You know, there was some discussion of having eight teams meet one week in the final tournament - say Wednesday and Thursday of one week, resting Friday, and playing Saturday night for the.finalse This would not entail any more time away from school than by playing the eastern and western, and then having the finals the next week for the chempionshipe — The contract that I have with the hall will protect us if you should make such a determinatione There is a paragraph in the contract st the bottom, which states: “The lessee agrees to set the permanent dates for the tournament (which are to be a part of this contract) as speedily as possible and in any event before October 1, 1940. the lessee further agrees that in the event an opportunity to rent the Arena for any of the dates reserved arises before that time, he will set permanent dates on 10 days! written notice from the lessore" * I had this put off as lete as October, 1940, so that we would then be in & definite position to Imow exactly what we wanted to doe There is another ite, Ole, that I think I should mention that is very importante I have talked to a good many coaches that were in the tournament, or who did not get in, and most of them state that there has never been ® definite statement of policy from the N.CeAeA. Tournament Committee concerning what the teams are to get, if anythinge Of course, the district chairman had been advised of certain things, and so have the members of the committee, but much of the advice that they received was erroneous; namely, that this fund would be earmarked for basketballe We found this to be incorrect. Further, there was only a guarantee of expenses for the easter, western, and final play-off, and nothing for the districts. Yet if the district tournament made any money the NeCeAcde was to receive i‘. And then you know in our first year we guarenteed expenses for fifteen men, then cut it to twelve, and then raised it again to fifteene pal I appreciate these difficulties that we get into, but there is a danger that unless we set these things out and have them in printed form and send them to each member, marked personal, of the Netional Basketball Coaches Association so they could be fully informed, then there would be no excuse for fellows like Rupp, of Kentucky, pleading ignorance as to the real seteupe I only mention Rupp, but I ean also mention Frosty Cox, Sam Barry, and many of the other beys saying, "We never received any information of what we are to get or anything of the kind." Henry Iba was the most outspoken of alle For two years he has been stating that he will stick by the NeCeAeAe tournaments if the NeCeAeAe Tournament Committee will cane out with a definite statement as to their policy and intentions, together with their possible distribution of the earningse I do not believe that we can afford to ignore these things longer, end after our meeting, if we do have one in Minneapolis, I believe we should have a definite statement to present to the ccaches early next fall so that when our tournaments come up they will have been advised, and it will not be possible for them to state they mew nothing of the set-upe If we leave all this detail to the chairmen of the districts or other members of the Tourne= ment Committee then there is still a possibility that the various coaches who are members of the NeCeAcAe will not be fully appraised of a11 the situationse Would it not be well to have these points ready to submit to the NeCeAcAe governing board and get their oeke or their rejection upon these moot points so that we in tur could be protedted to the extent of saying that this is what they approved and t is is what they rejected. If you want to get into the tournament play-off under these conditions, well and goode If not, you have been so advisede I trust that I have brought before you these important points and that you will augment these with any others that come to youe Won't you please write me your convictions, and also in whgt mamer you expect to handle the play-offs next year? I have not been advised whether I am te be on the Tournament Committee next yeare But I have gone ahead with these details to protect the committee. Very cordially yours, Chairmen, 5th District NeCoAohe Second Annual 1940 National Collegiate A. A. Bashelball Championships of America Western District SEMI-FINALS March 22 - 23 8:00 p.m. N.C &: A, FINALS March 30 8:30 p.m. ADMISSION Boxes, Loges $1.68 Balcony 1.12 Upper Balcony .40 x« « GENERAL TOURNAMENT COMMITTEE H. G. Olsen, Chairman Columbus, Ohio Dr. F. C. Allen, Manager Lawrence, Kansas H. H. Salmon, Jr. New York City J. W. Se. Clair Dallas, Texas B. T. Grover Athens, Ohio =~ = Also in Session --- Hotel Continental NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BASKETBALL COACHES March 28, 29, 30 NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BASKETBALL COLLEGE OFFICIALS March 29, 30 NATIONAL BASKETBALL COMMITTEE OF UNITED STATES & CANADA March 30, 31, April 1 Municipal Auditorium Kansas City, Mo. Columbus, Ohio June ll, 1940 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear “Phog": I forget whether I have written to you to acknowledge the report of the Western play-off and the final game. In spite of the fact that the bills have ruled in rather heavy, it is still @ fine showing and one which you can feel very proud. I am in hopes, however, that you can make some progress very shortly in the matter of clean= ing up the program account. I should like, if possible, to get the final report from you, to» gether with the money which you have on deposit, so that I could have my final report ready in case we should get the call to talk to the Execue tive Committee sometime within the next week or ten days. I em in hopes we can have such a get-together because I think it is important that we arrive very soon at some definite program for next year's tournament. The matter of whether we are going to continue the Eastern and Western play-off, or whether we are going to throw all the teams into @ tournament is a matter which might very well be discussed at such a meeting and, of course, it is very important that we have an understanding wi th the NeC.A-A. as to what the procedure is going to be with respect to the participation of competing teams in the net profits, ete. I am enclosing a request from Jim St. Clair regarding the movie of the final game. Inasmuch as I haven't any copy of the movie in my possession, i thought you could answer his letter. Answering your letter of June 3, it seems to me you are very foresighted and absolutely right in making the arrangements which you have made with nage tS” The World Series of Basketball F.C.A. #2 June 11, 1940 the Municipal Auditorium in Kansas City. a further comment in your letter of June 3, as to the confusion on the part of the coaches regerding tournament arrangements - as I have ine dicated above, that whole matter should be threshed out very soon and that information should be eme bedied in any first publicity releases regarding next year's tournament. And, by the way, as soon as we are able to get our final report, it is my definite conviction we should send a summary of last yearts tournament results to each member of the Coaches Association. I am trying to arrenge a get-together in Minneae polis et the time of the N.C.A.A. track meet. If we cen have a chance to talk to the Executive Com mittee as a whole, or in part, at that time, it seems to me we should do so. I trust if such an arrangement can be effected that you would find it possible to be there. Very sincerely yours, ‘OG th H. G Olsen Chairman, N.C.A.A. Basketball HGO:M Tournament Committee Enc. Air Mail DEPARTMENT OF PuysicaL EDUCATION L. W. Sr. Joun, Director THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY GrorceE W. RicutTmire, President COLUMBUS Golumbus, Chio dume 11, 1940 ae | Alen. iy fos Geo tavtares oF tase tant we fee ee ——— - Very etannsity yours, Hy G, Olsen | Chairman, W al lek ato CCaDr. F. C. Allen Air wail J. W ST. CLAIR Executive Secretary SOUTHWEST ATHLETIC CONFERENCE OFFICE Ss. M. U. DALLAS, TEXAS June 6, 1940. Mr, H. G Olsen, Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio. Dear Ole: I am very anxious to know if I may have the picture of the Indiana-Kansas National Championship game for the week of June 24-28, I probably will need it only one day and will return same immediately. I have written Mr. Allen concerning this but have not had a reply from him. With kindest regards, I am Yours very truly, (ae « St. Clair. Roe APR PSA OPC ELE (A) Che National League of Professional Base Ball Clubs , RC A Building ~ 30 Rackefeller Plaza : New Work Kangas onty. MO Mareh 30th " 40. To Mr. Branch MeCracken} To tir. Forrest Allenj The offieials,B111 BeDongld; Ted gta tvvens: Diek Barton and &.0.quigley have agreed that the following procedures,as per the rules and officiating technique will be followed in the N.CsAsAe Championship game played tonight in Municipal Auditorium in Kansas City,namely; — One out of bounds,or sny play in whieh the ball is awarded, as out of bounds, IN A TiAM'S OFFENSIVE HALF OF THE COURT, (B) (¢) (D) (8) (F) (¢) (i) the ball SHALL be. handed to a player by tas official; The options,as per taking the ball as out of bounds, instead of the free throw,as provided in tne rules, shall operate dum every minute of both helves} such option, if any shall be the. privilege of the offended team's captain up to and until the ball is given to the fouled player either on tne free throw linej;back of the free throw line; in the rear half of the *# free throw circle or if the free thrower remains behind the free throw circle and accepts tue ball. : 6n violations whereby the ball is given to the ‘essai rr as “out of bounds" the | official shell secure the ball and put atin play as per the “eode” covering such violations. No action on the part of the players Lining up on the free throw lane that in any way disconeerts the free thrower shall be permitted. 3 A ball hitting the top of the dDackboard and going sale and a down shall be considered as out of bounds. An set by the guard whereby he uses his hand or hands to brenk the vision of the player he is guarding shall be penalized as a personal foul. (Waving his hand,or hands,in front of an opp- onent’ s face.) fhe officials wish to call the attention of both Ur.MeCracken and DreAllen that (C); Personal Foul Section 9; Rule IS; Shall be ruled according to the Letter of the code. ALSO; In the matter of legal or illegal screens the "Supplemen« tal statement" on "Blocking" on Page 29 shall be ~~ stick tw that will be used as the measurement. | | tn all other matters the code shall be followed. Insert; "From the rear". COPY Mr. He Ge Olsen, Basketball Coach, Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohioe Dear Ole: Your good letter of the 14th instant has just been received, and I find myself in hearty accord with all that you and President Owens desire. Floyd Rowe has asked me to be in Cleveland on the 27th and 28th of November at a rules interpretation meeting for his district. I am wondering if you could comaunicate with Floyd end find when we would be free and see if there is any chance for you end for me to get together at this time when I em in such close proximity to youe A personal conversation is worth loads of correspondences I want you to know that I am intensely interested in making this N.C.A.A. tournement a great success and anything that I can do to make this emphatically a stand-out N.C.A.A. proe ject will receive my tireless sunporte AnswePing the next to the last paragraph in your letter, I have talked to Major Griffith and Saint a great number of times and I, too, believe that the "director" or "faculty" type of individual is the man to have on such committee. At least that type should dominate the committee, and we might have a few of the active coaches so that there would be no great critician from the coach's angles Yes, I do feel that we can successfully operate this season without using newspaper men on our active committees I had a rather delicate situation confronting mee Liston, who is operating this National Intercollegiate Committee, had the active support of MéBride, and he still has it, but I think we are break» ing the ice very successfully. If you could get over to Cleveland at any time that you and Floyd Rowe could agree on so that we might have a conference, I am sure we could iron out a lot of these situations. It might be wise to comtinue this one more year, . treat it rather in an expectant fashion mtil we could get ovér the hump. I think we are going to have a great tournament this year and I'am very enthusiastic about putting both of these play-offs here in Kansas City over in a big waye Awaiting your reply at your earliest convenience with a alee to seeing you in Cleveland, I am, with kindest regards, Sincerely Yours, Director of Physical Education and Recreation, FGA ¢ AH Varsity Basketball Coachs COPY OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY Columbus November 14, 1939 Dre Forrest C,. Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear “Phog"s I am in receipt of a letter from President Owens of the N.C.AA. in which he has enclosed a letter from a Mre Gilmore, Secretary of the Rocky Mountain Faculty Athletic Conference. Gilmore has suggested in this letter to Major Griffith that District 7 has its own elected executive committee which would be enpowered to cooperate in making the district selection. Gilmore said in his letter, "We feel that this committee might be the logical group either to make the selection or to designate the persons who shoulde The basketball ruties Z member for district 7 is coach of the team which is likely to be an important | contenders Presijent Owens, in his letter, says this = "If it is possible to cooperate with this group in sane way with selections in this district, I feel that it would be well to do so as we need all the support we can get in the various districts in the building up of this tourmement. I do not think it would be necessary to designate this committee as the final selecting authority but if, without serious interference with your plans, they could be asked to cooperate it might prove helpful." I am writing to you to get your reaction to Owens’ suggestion and also to ask if you won't take a major part in the making up of all ow com= mitteese You know as well as anybody else what we were trying to do last year - maybe we were following the correct procedure, in your judgment, and maybe note At any rate, the time is here when we should be setting up definitely the sel- ection committees in all our districts, and what I am trying to tell you is that I am going to lean on you rather heavily in this comection. In the first place, you have both the Western play-off and the final game on your handse Seconfly, I know there is nobody in the whole business more interested in seeing this tourna= ment blossom out in a real way this seasons 7 I have written "Jue" Salmon several times in connection with tourna-= ment business but so far I have not been able to get a reply from hime There was ome thought expressed in the N.CeAsA. Executive Comittee meeting in New York early this sumer and that was, generally speaking, committees which operate tournaments such as ours might well have in its make-up more men of the “director" or "faculty" type rather than active coaches. The thought was expressed that so often coaches are so occupied in their own work of coaching that they don't make, in a good many instances, the best type of camittee membere Perhaps you have heard this thought expressed beforee I am not sure I subscribe to that entirely and yet I suppose it is something we might well keep im mind when we are thinking of the make-up of our tournament committee. There was some question raised also in this Executive Committee meeting as to the use of men on our cammittees who were not comected in any way with the NeCeAsde Do you feel we can successfully operate this season without using newspaper men, let us say, on our active committees? Possibly the answer would be to make use of these men in an advisory capacity. What do you think of this idea? | | At any rate please give this matter of the whole committee set-up your best thought and let me hear from you as soon as possiblese Very sincerely yours, (Signed) "Ole" HGO 3M He Gp Olsen