Jim John John Jim John Jim. John Jim John Jim John PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR HEALTH Radio Program. February 16, 1939 "Piiysical Education at Haskell Institute" © (John F. Carmody. Director of Athletics and Physical Education at Haskell. Indian Institute, interviewed by James H..Raport,, , of the Department of Physical. Education, University of Kansas.) John,: how many students are there at Haskell?. About 720. This includes both boys and girlse- Whit sort off physical educetion program do you have,. John? Classes in physical education at Haskell are concerned with sports act=. ivities which naturally involves the teaching of skills., However,. the social and hygienic processes are predominant. and the ultimate aim of. our class work. We also have competitivesathletics and an intramural program.’ What types or kinds of games do you teach the young Indian boys? . The age group interest, of course, is the determining factor in the type of games taughts And too, the seasonal sport is usually the center of interest. . Well, John, specifically what games do you have in your pr8tram? We're organized on a semester basis. We play touch football; unorganized games such as individual dodge ball, hook arm tag and others; basketball with emphasis on individual skills for the elementary groups; and for the advanced groups the emphasis is on team play. We also play captain ball and team dodge ball, which are semi-organized and more advanced than the unorganized games,: Volley ball,- paddle tennis, aerial darts, boxing, softball, tether tennis, horseshoes, ~ are all.on the class schedule. We also have classes in track and field events. Ail these games and events have been adapted to fit the lower age groups. Well, how about your higher age groups? What do they do? Activities are very similar but that there is a greater complexity of the game with the necessary emphasis on team play. We also have added tumbling and some wrestling and tennis besides the games already mention-. eds In the track and field events we raise the standard of achievement for the older groups. That program seoms to be very well integrated. As I understand it, the work you've outlined is philosophically sound education, since the locus of the teaching situationsis the students Well, now you've mentioned that you have an intramural programs Can you tell me something about it? The intramural program is an after-school activity. All the boys in school participate in one form of game or anothers The boys may play touch football, basketball, boxing, track and field, softball, baseball, tennisy horseshoe pitchinge The teams are organized by tho students, Jim John Jim John Jim John Jim John Jim John Jim John =Qee excluding only the students cut for that varsity sport. Competitive units in the various sports are dovermined by the age level. However, in box- ing the determinant is woight. In tennis, track and horseshoes there is no classification, John, your intramural track reet is always very interesting. The intramural treck mect is one of the outstanding school events. The two men's dormitories compete against each other. The results are usually very close. Last year the difference between the winner and loser was only 4 points! Yes, I remember that and all the enthusiastic schoolmates yelling for their dorm teamse John, I was rather interested in what you named the "open basketball tournament", Just how does it work and what is its purpose? In the fall, immediately after football season, we have what we call our "open elimination basketball tournament." i411 boys at Haskell Institute may compete with any team to determine a Haskell champion. A team is permitted to play as long as they lose only one game. After a loss they are automatically eliminated. The tournament serves a dual purpose; first, it gives the boys a chance to compete with a group of their own selection; secondly, it gives the basketball coach an opportunity to get a line on varsity materiale Boys showing sbility in this tournament are invited to check out for varsity basketballs If they accept this invitation then they may not compete in the regular intramural tournament. Sounds like a good idea. Are there any other sports that command a great deal of student interest? Yes, Boxing, both as an intramiral and versity sport, attracts not only e great deal of student interest, but also o high percentage of student participation. Usually before our varsity boxing s®%son begins we con= duct an intramural tournatnent to determine the champions in the various weight divisions. These champions usually form the mucleus for our var« sity boxing team. I know the Haskell Indian boxins teams are generally regarded very highly. Does your intramral boxing tournament help you in selecting successful candidates for the boxing team? Yes, It gives the ccach the opportunity to see the boys in action and know of their possibiis#ties. We've been very fortunate at Haskell in having « coach who has been able to make use of and develop boys who were eliminated in the intramurals, to a degree of skill which surpassed that of the intramural champion. a Well, what success does the Haskell boxing team enjoy? The boxing team has been more successful than our other teams. To what do you attribute their success, John? For one thing, the coaching has been goods Another reason for our success is that the competition in boxing is on a classified basis according to Jim John Jim _ John Jim John Jim John Jim John Jim John C4 oo, ~ weights Another very important training factor is the regular life which the students hore at the school live. That makes for well-conditioned boys,anad condition is fundamental in boxing. What other competitive athlotics do you offer at Haskell, John? Woll, therets football, basketball, basoball, boxing and track, I might add that whore two or more sports are running concurrently, a boy may compete in only one. For example, a boy paaying basketball isn't permitted to compete in boxing;.or a boy out for track may not play on tho baseball teame All this seoms like a very comprehensive program. I'd like to know what sort of health examinations are given to the boys. First, it is necessary that every student entering Haskell pass a physical examinations All boys participating in athletics are given a very thorought™ ' physical oxamination, including x-ray of the lungs before they may parte icipate in the sport. This oxamination is required for each boy for each sport in which he competes. Our head physician, Dr. Renick, is very much interested in tho student's welfare, and honce these oxaminations are exceptionally thoroughs John, just what is the status of physical education in the Indian service? Physical Education is considered of prime importance in the education of the Indian youth. Although thore have been marked changes in the mothods in the past eight yearse What changes, John? Tho old methods were mostly military, such as marching, calisthonics, etc. The trend now is toward the less formal and what I call the sports program, working toward acceptable social and hygionic standards» In other words, you agree with Staloy’s idea of "sports education, We've boen speaking about boys physical education thus far. You said there was an equal division of the sexes. Do the girls have a physical education program? Yes, an extensive program. It consists of a class schedule and an intra- mural program, They play such games as softball, hockey, aerial darts, volley ball, basketball, tennis, slag ball, tumbling. They «lso have interpretative, tap and social dancing. Mrs. Clarissa Lowry is in charge of the woments program. Each year the girls department puts on a splendid gym show in which al1 the Haskell Indian girls take part. How long is a class period? ‘FEftyefive minutes, with time taken out for dressing. I'd like to mention, Jim, that wo carry on 4 coerecreational group composed of tho older boys and girls who are taught to play games of recreational nature, suitable for indoor and outdoor uso, and for large or small groups, such games as dancing, stunts, and other social gamese Jim John Jim Jghn Jim John Jim John ead, as John, is there anything of particular interest about the Indian that you'd like to mention? Well, the Indian is commonly thought of as a vanishing race, That's not true, At present there are about 345,000 Indians. In fact, the annual net population increase is 190 a years At that rate in 2039 there should be 940,000 Indians, whereas the white man's population will have fallen to 129 million in 1986. I. alweys cansidered the Indian as the vanishing American. Has Science helped this population increase? Yes, definitely. The white man's hospitals, doctors, sanitation and diet- " ary knowledge have made the Indian he thier. But it might be pointed out that the white man's effect was not always beneficiale Among the seven major causes of Indian mortality today only two - tuberculosis and war - were known before the advent of the white mans John, when was the Haskell Indian Institute founded? In 1884, At one time its enrollment was up to 1100 students. Its grad- uates are placed in practically every state in the union. What aro some of the occupations Haskell graduates gota At Haskell there is a commercial department which graduates about 65 students each year. Last year its placoment was nearly 100%. These stud- ents are out in large industry and government service; as steno's, clerks, and bookkeepers. In fact about 30 Haskell graduates are working in the Washington offices. There are the vocational training departments for both boys and girls, besides the regular academic coursese ; THEE TE Dr. Allen Mullen: Dre Allen: Wilson: Sullivan: PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR HEALTH Radio Program June 1, 1939 "4 Future Student Faculty Play Day” It is with pleasure that I introduce the personnel of a group of student leaders who have done things and are now doing things at the University of Kansase Ce He Mullen, senior, of Marion, Kansas, pres- ident of the Men's Student Counciil; collaborating with him is Miss Velma Wikson, junior, of Meade, Kansas, president of the Women's Student Governing Association; Dan Rhule, junior, from Aspinwall, Pennsylvania, president of the Men's Pan-Hollonic; John Onakson, junior, of Kansas City, Kansas, president of the Independent Student Assoeiat~ ion; Wayne Nees, senior, of Bragil, Indiana, prosidont-elect of tho "K" clubs; Nelson H. Sullivan, senior, of Kansas City, Kansas, who has revivificd and made the "K" club on the campus of the University of Kansas a living, breathing, doing thing; Bob Galloway, junior, from Marysville, Kansas, president of the Ku Ku's; Miss Sara Lou Smart, junior, from Lawrence on the Kaw, representative of the Jay Janese These cight K. U. students will indulge in a friendly chat, their discussional subject being a future student-faculty play day. Well, Dr. Allen, what do you mean by this student-faculty play day? What do you have in mind? Who would sponsor this? Woll, Ce He, my notion was that you leaders would sponser it as 4 groupe Don't you remomber when you were in high school you had your senior picnics, and your all-school days, and so forth? Now, isn't it a fact that we havo folt perhaps wo are too large here at Ke Ue to mect in a group such aos wo propose. ‘Miss Wilsom, don't you think that it would be a fine thing if a group of student leaders would sponsor a mammoth student~-faculty play dey where the entire student body with tho faculty. could play games and then have a real got together where the womon serve the meat and the men and women eat it? > Wouldn't that bo fun? .That would be just like old times, wouldn't it? Woll, that sounds interosting, at least as far as the men are concerneds | I'd like to ask a quostion of Nolson Sullivan. Ho's beon promoting various activities on the campus. Nolson, how doos this idea strike you? : I think it is a swoll.iden, but in addition I think wo should have a Recognition Day combined with this student-faculty play day. This Recognition Day would include the awarding and honoring of all athletic participants = both men and women = in varsity athlotic competition. Women's Athletic Association, and intramural athletics. And further, I think that the "K" club would perhaps want to at least nominate one of the famous old "K" men in somo branch of athletics who has made good out in. the business world, who would return and spoak at a convocation, honoring the "K" athletes as woll as awarding the trophies to the winners. Dan Rhule, as president of the Men's pan-Hellenic, I think you should heave some ideas along this linc. ~ Rhule: Sullivan: Oakson: Necs Jameson: Galloway ~2e Well, it appoals to mo as a grand idon, We could start the activitios by having a convocation in Hoch Auditorium at 1:30 in the afternoon for the presentation of awards and trophies by this honored guest... whom you just montioned, Sully, and maybe wo gould have Mr. Wiloy's.:. crack band to play for use Thon at 3 o'clock wo would have this:. much=heralded faculty-senior baseball game on tho intramural ploy field. But I would not limit the activities to just a baseball game = we could have horseshoe pitching, badminton, shuffleboard, deck .— tennis, volley ball, archery + in fact, every kind of game for the: faculty mombers and the studonts. Not just one game, but have every~ body playing = have the whole university family onjoying themselvos out-of-doorse And then it would be 2 good idea for tho fraternities, — sororities, boarding clubs and others to cance] thoir evoning meal, so that we could all eat togethore And say, Dan, this is an added opportunity for tho fratornity men and women and the independent men and women to play and eat together. John, do you put your OK. on this? When poople break bread together they are really friendly, and I think it would bo a swell thing. But Sully, this would necessarily mean a lot of organizing ability of the part of somoonee There would need to be a publicity director, a director of invitations, a director of events, a director of foods, and a djroctor of finances. That is quite an undertakinge Wayne Nees, you heve beon sitting there not saying a word. As prestdont-elect of the "K" club do you approve of this schome? Understand, it is going to take a lot of work to got this donee This makes a big hit with mos. I have always been strong on student leaders showing that thoy are real student leaders. I think we should ask Chancellorecloct Malott to give us this day so that we can get better acquainted with the faculty, and the faculty can meet us more informally, 4nd by the way, they toll me that Chancellor Malott is a great horseshoo pitchor. Maybe he can make some ringerse Only last year President Lyman Wilbur of Stanford University won that event in a play day out there, Why can't our chancellor win for us? Well, the Jay Janos would all cheer for the chancellor. Our cheers have borne fruit at times, yourknow, I remenbor four yoars ago Dr. "Phog" Allen gave us credit for winning 4 basketball gamo over in Hoch Auditerftum, Kensas was behind 6 points, with 3 minutos to go, and he says the Jay Janos won that game for him, But the chancoller isn't the only one who is going to play, is he? , You know, we have a number of athletes on our faculty hero, Dean Stockton, of the School of Business, was captain of the football toam at Johns Hopkins University. And Dre Raymond Moore, of the Geology Department, was gaptain of the track team at Donnison University. They tell me he was a speody follows Rhule: Nees: Oakson: Galloway: woe Yos, and Dr. Lawronco Woodruff, of the Entomology Departmont, played center on the Kansas 1923 championship football team. Dre Carleton Kent, of the Physics Department, was a moan baseball player, You know ho is a brother of Coach Maury Kent, of North= western University. Yos, @nd I want you to know that our own Chancellor Ernost Hiram Lindley was a candidate for the first baseman's position at the University of Indiana, and it took a world's champion, Frank Daloy, to boat him oute Wo have some other athletes on tho faculty, too-- Dean Paul Be Lawson, of the College, is a moan handball playor. Major Edwards, of the ReOQ.TeC.e Staff, was a mombor of the K.U. track toam in 1917. And Dr. Goorco Stratton, of the Chemistry Department, was on the Colorado basketball team. Miss Hoover Mre Mott Miss Hoover Mre Mott Miss Hoover Mre Mott Miss Hoover Mre Mott PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR HEALTH Radio Program HORSEBACK RIDING ecese May 18, 1939 ee Thure It noticeable that more people than ever before recognize horse=- back riding as a major sport and a means of delightful exercise, so this is an opportune time to discuss the subject of horses and horseback riding with a man who is well qualified to answer my questionse He is Mr. Gayle Mott who has recently opened a riding academy in Lawrence and formerly instructed college riding classes in Emporia, Kansase Mre Mott, what is the location of your stables, and how many horses have you? The stables are located on University Drive, a few blocks west of the campuse I have thirteen horses at present, two of which are still in training. Do you break and train your own horses, then? Yes, Miss Hoover, I buy my horses as young colts and train them in fields of riding for which they are best fitted, such as; three gaited, five gaited, highschooled, or jumping horses. I have all these in my stables--some of them are trained for driving horses as well. I like to break and train each horse myself so that I know the horses are dependable and fairly uniform in performance and responsée You mentioned the gaits and gaiting of horsese What are the gaits and how do three and five gaited horses differ? The five gaits are: walk, trot, canter, slow gait (or single fbiot) and rack. The three gaited horse has only the first three gaits namede The average saddle horse has only the three gaits-~and is the best type for the ordinary rider. It is difficult for any but expert riders to keep a five-gaited horse in the proper gaits and there is no advantage in having a horse with all the gaits unless the rider is skillful enough to keep them distinet. If the rider is less instructed than the horse, a sad confusion of paces is apt to results a horse with a good trot and a good canter is more useful to the ordinary rider than one of the highly accomplished gaited saddlers, and hence the popularity of the three-gaited horse. I understand that there is quite a general confusion regarding the blood strains in saddle horses. I am interested in the character- istics of and the outstanding differences between the Thoroughbred and the American Saddle Horse. There are two opposite types of blood strains in horses. The hot- blood is represented by the thoroughbred or racing horse and the cold-blood by the cow=-pony or mustange The Thoroughbred horse was orighbally brought to this country from England and it is the race- horse or running horse. The Thoroughbred has three gaits. The American Saddle Horse originated from erosses of the thoroughbred Miss Hoover Mre Mott Miss Hoover-=- Mre Mott Miss Hoover Mr e Mott Miss Hoover ~2 upon pacers of mixed breed brought from Canada. Starting with these materials, a saddle horse possessing great intelligence and beauty was established. These horses are taught five or more dis- tinet gaits and are also known as “The Five-Gaited Saddle Horse". The gaited saddler is the horse that has made Kentucky and Missouri famouse There ho is looked upon with great admiration and bred and trained with great carcee Now, getting back to riiding--Mr. Mott, do you think that riding lessons are eseential to enjoying horseback riding? Riding lessons are a safety insurance while you are enjoying ridinge The risk of riding without them is too great. There is no way to learn without being showie Some people have ridden or do ride without lessons, but they lack the keen cooperation between rider and horse. They "stick" on a horses I teach beginners the proper wey to fall from a horse. Most horses will stop when they lose their rider and by lmowing how to fall, 4 rider can usually avoid serious injury. Then, too, it is an ad- vantage to know the proper way to handle the reins, two or four, as the case may be; the proper seat in the saddle; the proper posit= ion of the fect----all of which are factors in determining the ease and enjoyment of your rider, as well as the handling of the horses There are many phases of instruction from the mere fundamentals necessary for a begimer up to the more involved methods used for five-gaiting, jumping, trick riding, show ring riding, and high schoolinge Mre Mott, wha t type of saddle do you recommend for easy riding? I like for beginners to use the stock (or Western) saddlo for the first fow rides at least. It has the saddle horn to grasp if they need to do so and there is more saddle there than with the flat (or English) saddle-=--thus the beginner feels more securo and less as though he might fly over the horse's head at the first sudden movement of the animal. For the person who has ridden enough to "get the feel of the horse" I recommend a flat or (English saddic). It is more comfortable riding and gives the rider more freedoms It also adds more style and show to both horse and ridere What is the reason for two such opposite type saddles for riding? The stock saddle is primarily for western riding. It emphasizes rolaxation and comfort for riding for hours in the saddle over rough countrye Tho large, deep saddle, the wooden stirrups, the saddle horn (which is really for use in roping), the cowboy boots, the chaps are all calculated to be aids to the security and comfort of the cowboy. The flat saddle is used for park riding, jumping, polo, show ring riding, and largely in the army---and alwoys, of course, on five-gfaited horsese Now that we are getting technical, how about bridles? I have seen sone with two reins and some with four,---what is the difference Mr, Mott Miss Hoover Mre Mott Miss Hoover Mre Mott ob— between them and what is the purpose of each? The two reins--or we gall it the single rein bridle--is used quite generally on the average threo#egaited and hunter typo horse and may have cither curb or snaffle bite The four reinse-or double rein bridle--is used on five-gaited horses and has both curb and snaffle bits, which are very essential in obtaining the five different gaitse I feel that riding well taught can and should develop character and aid in solving psychological probloms, improve posture, and assist in overcoming physical defects besides being a healthy form of exercise that can be enjoyed by both old and young, weak and stronge Do you have any experience in teaching riding as it is related to improvement of body mechanics, Mr. Mott? Yes, Miss Hoover, I have riders to whom riding has been recommended by their physician for overcoming various handicaps. Such ass Riding for posture correction, Riding to improve muscular and nervous troublese--Frequently riding is the only sport in which paralysis victims can engagee Also riding is often recommended for those who can't engage in other sports-«==such as sufferers from lung diseases, as asthma or tuberculosis, or for those who are excessive» ly over- or under-weight. Many who cannot enter other sports can ride and enjoy riding, if the instructor can teach them to overcome their ow limitations. I can see that horseback riding can be adapted to many different people=-both sexes, nearly all ages, and assorted weights because of the wide variations of the severity of the sport--for horses aro assorted as to size, strength, and serenity and there is a great difference in the exercise obtained from riding a quiet horse at @ walk or a strong high spirited horse at a vigorous trot or canters It is a recreation especially suited to the enjoyment and pleasure of couples. Mr. Mott can you give us a fow ganeral points as to the management of the horse when riding? Yes, Miss Hoovér, there are a few points which every rider would do well to observe: J. Approach and go around the horse's head and not his heels. Mount on the left side and in approaching the horse » avoid sudden and violent movements. Be slow and gentles 2» Remember that the horse's mouth is one of the most important parts of his anatomy to youas a rider. Never jerk ite Se At all gaits have your horse "“eollected" or under controls ‘Never ride with a loose rein so that you cannot hold him back quickly if necessary, You are supposed to be managing the ride, though he may be quite will- ing top, 4, Walk the first and last fivo minutes of your ride so as to loosen up the horse and bring him in coole He needs to warm up and cool off gradually like a human athlete. 56 Don't gallop away from other riders» Horses like to lead and don't mind racing and the horses become excited by ruming. Let the entire party keep together and enjoy a comfortable rides 6, A horse, even a well tr Mr. Mott Miss Hoover Mre Mott Miss Hoover Mr e Mott Miss Hoover okie trained one will sometimes do unexpected things like shying or rearing or whirling about suddenly to start for home. Often you can detect his purpose and distract his attention by spurring him up &® little or turning him a bit+-give him something else to think about besides the contemplated "dirty work'", 7. Kindness and pat- ience are more effective with a horse then harsher methods--let him knew what you want, but--it pays to be as quiet with him as possible. 8« If the horse runs with you against your will, remember that the Tun is an easy gait to sit and don't become tense. Pull him back vigorously although perhaps not with a steady pull. Pull hard, relax a bit and pull hard agains Turning him may help to stop him, especially if there is a bank to turn him toward. How should the directions be given to the horse te change his gaits? An experienced rider gives directions with hands, kmees, heels, and Sometimes riding crop or spurse A low verbal command is permissable but never a houd or sharp tonee Horses are very sensitive to loud sudden noises and often become unstrung when shouted ate What is the near side and what the far side of a horse? TI have heard the terms used often and I am never certain as to their meaning? The near side is the left side, the far side, the right side of a horses In other words, the side you mowmt from is the near side. Nearly all work with a saddle horse is done from the left side-- hence the “near" sides Do you ha ve routes that the ridors may take when they coms for pleasure riding? Yes, I have many routes for hour riders to take for an enjoyable ride and others which take longer periods ef time as desired. I also have a riding ring for ring work which is oxcellent for helping beginners and for practice in gaiting and drill work.: I have hurdles which can be set up on the riding ring and adjusted to the desired height for instruction in jumping. I have a large pasture--about 46 acres=-«which makes a good place for cross coumtry riding-=-plenty . of hills, timber, and roughness for these who wish to "get out in the country". There are grand places for steak fries and picnics. Are visiters welcome at your stables at any time or do you have special davs for “open house" so to speak? Mr. Mott Miss Heover \ Mre Mott Ban Iam glad and pleased to welcome visitors at any time, show them the stables and horses, and answor their questions. Come out and gee the horses and equipment and I hepe that soon I can invite sbi ef you to attend a horse show which is in rehearsal noWe Mr. Mott I feol that 1 have profited by this discussion; you havo shown me thet riding can bring out the best in anyone, Riding re« quires just as much good sportsmanship and good manners as any other game or sports, Yos, I have hoped, by this talk, to stross that riding, though not necessarily demanding great strength or endurance, roquires and develops muscular control, ability to relax, sense of balance, poise and good posture, health and fitness. I woulé@ leave the impression that it is a splendid sport, and that an acquaintance with such a noble animal and an alliance with him for health and happiness are worthwhile expericnecs. ay PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR HEALTH Radio Program May 11, 1939 secece (Summer Camp Life" - (Miss Joie Stapleton, Miss Virginia Anderson and Miss Margaret Van Cleave) Miss Stapleton In the short time that we have, it will be impossible to tell or Virginia Margaret Virginia explain the intricate patterns of camp and camp life. There is, however, foremost in the mind of the parent, certain essentials that need an explanation. Also, the director has many problems to face, and with the aid of counsclors, many problems are discussed and an attempt mado to remedy them long bofore camp is in session. One could sco a reenectmont of this sceno in many different forms of camps all ovor the country at the beginning of summer and in this discussion, although devoid of emotional dramatics - you will hear, as nearly as possiblo, how the camp contributes to the developmont of the csmper and what the camper does for the camp. We break in on this staff discussion as the curtain rises. Tho director of tho camp = playod by Virginia Anderson, is talking to one of her staff counsclors, Margaret Van Cleave, in a pre-camp week discussion. In this mecting of those of us who aro going to work together I would like to explain to you about the things we 211 hope to sce accomplished this summer. Margarcot, as head counsellor, I know you can add much to what I want to saye The success of our camp will depend upon our staff - whether we co- operate and enjoy working hard twenty-four hours of tho day with children who are coming to us for a good time. The children have that one ain in mind, but thoir parents want thom to have something more dofinite to show for having had this oxperiones, to be better personalities for having lived and sharod with others about their own age. The mother of one of our now campors is coming lator this afternoon to sco the camp and to ask quostionse But first, I want to talk a little about our job. Somo of you are new to our group, so lot us talk over our programe Margaret will you explein how wo have our campers plan thoir own activitios? Well, Andy, you've givon me a big job, but I'll try. The first day of camp, we have a meoting where wo sing and got acquainted. Hero each counsellor talks about the activity of which she has chargo. At this time the campers aro givon tho opportunity to choose the sport and othor activitios that intorost them. Each girl then has 2 very flexiblo pro- gram, which can be modified or changed if desired. This program which calls for self-direction on the part of each child, tonds to give thom a senso of freedom and indepondence that makes for happy campers. In- directly, wo counsollors try to soo that 2 balanced program is chosen so that each cirl has a wide and varied experience with camp life. Is that what you wanted, Andy? I think you said just what I would hevo said, and if none of you have any questions, wo'll go on to the real part of camp, that everyone lives for - out-of-camp trips by station wagon, canoo and horseback. About twice 2 week, wo mako trips by one method or the other, depending upon Mar garet Virginia Joie Lede alee the age of the camper group thet is goinge The canoe trips are over~ night or two or threo deys in length. Not more than four canoes leave camp at one time, and at lesst two counsellors are assigned to cach groupe I have a papsor hero that you can sign for the kind of trip you would liko to take. Of courso, a lot depends unon your ability for this kind of thine. We aro responsible for the safety of each child, so there may necessarily be some changes made. Our pack trips are : mainly day journeys, covering approximately twenty-five miles of trail. The stop for the noon meal is entirely up to the campers, as is the preparation of it. By station wagon we take larger groups to noarby points of interest, and theso trips sre really back-to-civilization treats for the campers. All of our excursions are more or less impromp- tu as far as the campors are concerned, Of course, wo have to plan for meals out of camp, but the cook doos that. so these trips are always a surprise to the campers and they just lovo it! Margaret and I have spoken in somo detail «bout s camper council in which they can have opportunity to discuss their prceblcoms, and to appoint certain individuals for honors. Somo of these are lighting council firo, making announcoments at meals, and helping plan enter~ tainmonts to be given on rainy nights that come every so often. You have done a lot with these programs, Margaret, what aro your ideas for this summor? I'm afraid that I can’t cxpress much of an opinion, because those pro- grams turn out to be just ss much a surprise to me as they aro to you. Romember last summer how wo racked our brains and ransecked the camp trying to get up outfits for a Pirate ‘arty? Then how wo chased every kind of a living thing around camp for our Pet Par}y? And you ask mo to tell you what is soing to hepnon this yoare Running more sedately throughout the camp week are our inspiring council fires. The campers plan a theme for cach camp fire, and wo dramatize storios of the stars, of Indian legends, and of our own camp. On Sunday we hevo Chavel in the woods. Hero oech camper, sometime curing the summor, contributes to the beauty and imressiveness of the hour by reading a bit of poetry, a simple story of admirable charactor treits, or joining with some of the others in giving a musical selection. All of you can sce thet we try to keep everything «s informal ss possible, and not regimented. We do get up and go to be by the bugle, however, and come to meals whenever the welcome warning is sounded. There are certain hours for the classes in swimming, and the hour for general swim, but .side from these set times, the program goos its own speed - and very smoothly, too. You didn't mention thet cach camper has time to be by herself to read, write a letter homo, cr mingle with other groups. I think that is overlooked too ofton in summer camps, when each minute of the camper's time is planned for her and she seldom is alone to da as she plooses. Thon 21ls0 <-<-<-- How do you do? Mrs. Grant, its very nice to see you heree Mrs. Grant, this is my counselling staff. Your group certainly looks as if they are very capable, Miss Anderson, and I know Nancy will be well teken care of. I wanted to ask some~ thing about the facilitics for caring for the health of my little girl. Will you tell mo something of how she will live while at camp? Virginia Joic LeSe Virginia aaa enemmmemmmnamnieiintaetina Margaret Mrs. Grant Maragret wu Zee The food for meals is planned and selected by the camp diotitian and we have well balanced meals, good food, and plenty of it. Breakfast is eaten soon after rising and personal inspection, and the girls find that sleeping in tho fresh air has given thom a hearty appetite even for breakfast. The inspection that I just mentioned, takes place as soon as the girls are dressed and have washod. They must have their teeth cloan, thoir hair combed and brushed, thoir hands and face clean - in other words ~ ready to start the day off right. The bugle for taps blows at nine and tho rising bugle et seven - so you sce each girl is in bed to hear taps, and up before reveille has ended. The girls have little opportunity to become over-fatigued, becauso of the spacing of their very active periods with the moro quiet onese In the afternoon, right after lunch, we heve rest hour, during which the younger girls must sleep, and the older girls may read or write letters in thoir cabins- I should like to ask this one thing of all the parents, that they do not send candy or pastries to the campers. We have open candy store three times 2 week, just after the noon moal, and we think tho girls have adequate chance to fill a longing for sweets at this time. Mr. Grant and I have spent quite a bit of money this winter, giving Nancy music and dancing lessons. I hope tho talent that she has developed will not bo lost during the summer, because it will be hard to start all over again next falle Margaret can tell you just what we do offer along those lines and I'm sure you will be satisfied aftor hearing her Each of the counsellors are here, not only because of general ability in camping, but because we have special interests and abilities. Jane, has had much experience wi.tn dancing, fotk, modern, and tap and has many plans for the summer programe Elizabeth, majored in dramatics at college, and she will have much to do with our plays, our puppet shows, and pageants» Marion here professes an ability to sing, which we cannot sce, but we do know how well she does in teaching others. She supervises singing at meals, all musical talent shows, and has charge of the Sunday choir. These giris are examples of the special- ists we have in campe That is fine. Anothor thing, Mr. Grant and TI have talked about is, since this is our first cxperience with camps, what exporiences will Nancy have at camp that she could not have on a two woek family vacation trip ~ for instance? She will have an opportunity to moet girls of her own age from many difforont types of homes. Miss Anderson has interviowed the parents of every girl- lookod up her school record, and found out somothing about the girls! character. We have a group of girls, whose paronts are every bit as anxious 46 vox that their daughters should learn how to live with others, share thoir fun, and work togethore Each girl has certain dutios, such as kitchon polico,; making her bed, and doing her part to keop the cabin cleans It is all done in groups so these rathor hum drum tasks are roally fun. Virginia ‘thie Le Se Andy . e dco Maybe, Mrs. Grant, you would like to see the camp before you leave, but first let me tell you about the general layout. This central building contains the dining room which we use as a recreation room after meals. The kitchen and our general office are here, too. The girls live in screened=in cabins, four to a cabin. The ratio of counsellors to campers in one to every four or five girls. We have a tent unit of older girls who cook most of their meals over the open fire, but Nancy will have to wait « few years before camping in the roughe Over to the right is our Nurse's cabin. Sho is in camp all of the time and in case of accident, we have a doctor on call, who can reach hero in a few minutes time. We will of courso notify parents if necessarye The lake has an oxcollent beach, dock and float, adequately protect- ed with an excellent staff and all safety devices rocommended by the American Red Cross, so you see wo take no chances there. I feel very safe in sonding Nancy to you, Miss Anderson, and when may we sco hor? Four woeks is a long time for her to be away from us for the first timce Visiting day is every Sunday, and you are welcome to come. However, if you can let her stick it out by herself, she will get along better. We are looking forward to your daughter in camp, Mrs. Grant and wo are so glad that you took time to come oute Hai Allphin Schl otterbeck Allphin Schlotterbeck Allphin Schletterbeck Allphin Radio Program May 4, 1939 Physical Education for Health "SWIMMING AND AQUATIC SAFETY" (Mre Herbert G. Allphin and Mr. Raymond Schlotterbeck) Mre Schlotterbeck, what is your official position with the American Red Cross? — My official position with the American Red Cross is that of First Aid and Life Saving Field Representative for the states of Kansas and Missourie My particular responsibility is the training of first and and life saving instructors for local chapters and for promoting all of the safety activities of the Red Cross within the chapters or the two states. Maintenance of standards of instruction and program is also a part of my worke You mentioned the safety work of the Red Crosse Just why is the Red Cross engaged in safety work and what part docs your organization play in the safety ficld? The American Red Cross as charted by Congress in 1905 is charged with the responsibility "to continue ond carry on a system of nation= al and international relicf in time of peace and to apply the samo ~ in mitigating tho suffering caused by pestilonce, fomino, fire, floods and other great national calamities, and to devise and carry on measures of preventing tho samc." As a part of the prevention program in attempting to carry out this charge, the Red Cross has devised First Aid training coursos, Swimming and Life Saving courses, a systom of Emorgoncy Highway First Aid Stations, 2 program of home and farm accident prevention, and coursos in home hygiene and care of the sick, Thru these cducational programs the Red Cross hopes to provont and aleviate human suffocringe What is tho nature of your work here, and how long do you expect to stay in Lawrencoe The purpose of my visit to Lawrence is to conduct a Water Safety Instructor Training Courso for the training of teachers of Red Cross swimming, lifo saving and woter safety coursese This is part of our regular leadership training program designed to furnish local chapters with instructors to carry on the educational work of water safety within local chapters, camps, and other organizations intor- ested in this type of programe I will be in Lawrence for two weeks completing this training course. We now have 15 instructors under training at the University poole It is my understanding that this year marks a change in the Red Cross approach to tho accident prevention problom as it portains to aquatics and swimming. Just why did the Red Cross find it necessary to make this change? Schiotterbock Allphin Schlotterbeck Allphin in That is true, Mre Allphine This year docs mark a change in Red Cross approach to the aquatic accidont prevention problem. In order to give you a clear picturo as to why this change is taking place it is necessary to tell you something of the origin of the Red Cross Life Saving Service. It was at the request of the Boy Scouts and Y.M.CeA. that Red Cross first entered the Life Saving field in 1914, At that time we were confronted with the problem of promoting a life guarding type of program, as there were some 486 public bath- ing facilitics in this country that wore not adequately superviscde Life Saving technique as such was poorly understood and taught in most of our swimming arease The Red Cross with its wide organization and many contacts ws tho logical organization to undertake the prob-= lem of stendardizing life saving methods and of beginning the moment- ous task of wator-proofing America. Our first efforts were made by setting up standards of life saving methods and teaching the same to members of our voluntcer life saving or life guarding societics that we organized within our local chapters throughout the United States. After some 15 years of this effort operators of public pools and beaches were convinced of the necessity of obtaining professional and well trained supervision at most of our bathing beaches. No longer was it necessary for. Red Cross Chapters to furnish a corps of volunteers to do this work. But now we were confronted with the rosponsibility for developing © program that would train the masses in adequate swimming skills so that they could more readily take care of themselves, and that would at the same time train the more export swimmers in how to save persons in peril of drowninge Well, Mr, Schlotterbeck, this takes us up to about the time of the big crash. What happened aftor that? This mabked the beginning of a much broader educational type of efforts More persons wore taught to swim, more oxpert swimmers were taught how to save life by swimming rescue and by other mothodse Signs during the past five years have positively indicated that the time was approaching when the Red Cross in its peculiar capacity as a great repository for information acewaulated over 25 years of ex» periment, study, and above all, experience, should synthesize the material at its command and put it into 4 more suitable form, to be given to the Amorican public thru its great amay of instructors and exominerse To this ond two new textbooks, onc on “Life Saving and Water Safoty", and the other on " Swimming and Diving", were propared. In them an attempt has been made to place a body of Imowledge and aquatic skills which make of aquatic sports a skillful, pleasant and above all a safe experience for anyone in any form of aquatic activity that he or she might pursuce Mre Schlotterbeck, I have boon a senior life saver of the American Red Cross since 1922. I qualified in the test at Chautauqua, New York, under Cantain Fred Mills, who is safoty director of the Boy Scouts of America, and Captain Charles Scully, dircetor of First did Schlotterbeck Allphin. Schlotterbeck Allphin Schlotterbeck Allphin Schlotterbeck aja and Life Saving of New York City. I rocall the old program of passing numerous persons in the beginncrs and swimmers test, but this new work you are talking about scoms to be much more complete. Go ahead and tell us more of the new set upe Out of this vast amount of informational material the Red Cross has developed six courses of training for all grades of aquatic skill «= beginners swimmers course, iytermediate swimmers coursd, swimmers course, advanced swimmers course, and junior and senior © life saving and wator safety courses. In this series of courses every man, woman, boy or girl will find something suited to his or her ability and skill that will more adequately train them in cop- ing with oxperiences arising out of thoir aquatic sactivitye But, Mre Schlotterbeck, why 211 of this about an activity in which there are only about 7,500 fatalitics a year? That is true, Mr, Allphin, there are only about 7,500 drownings ao year. You might be interested to mow that since 1914 there has been an almost steady decline in the accidental drowning rate fron 10,000 per yoar to the figure we montionede This has come about in spite of the tremendous increase in swimming, boating, fishing and ice slmting as recreational pastimes by the people of Americae. This remarkable record has been made possible only thru the constant efforts of all organizations interested in this field, such as the Red Cross, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, YM. and Y.W.C.As, and all educatiénal institutions. It has been ostimated that 88 million people take part in some form of aquatic sport cach yeare If we arc to continue this fine record and keep down the loss of life and accompanying heartache and financial loss, we must continuc to cdu- cate these 88 million in how to safely participate in this activitye. Education is a slow process and one in which there can be no let up | if desired ends are to be achievede A new slogan of the Red Cross is "Health, Safety and Happiness in Aquatics thru knowledge and skill", Thru its six educational courses the Red Cross hopes to bring to the 88 million people participating in aquatics the know- ledge and skill necessary to attain health, safety and happinesse I am attracted by your statement about "knowledge and skill in aquatics". What do you mean by knowledge and skill nocessary for. safety in swimming? The knowledge nocessary for safcty in bathing consists largely in knowing when, whero, and how much to swime Skill for safety is made up of abilities to meet common hazardous conditions which beset the swimmer from time to time. This is the sum and substance of person al safety in the wator. | Where would you consider to be the safest place for persons to swim? It can be pointed out that persons should always swim under the watchful eye of a trained and experienced life guard and at places whore activity is suporvised. This fact is definitely brought out Allphin Schlotterbeck Allphin Schlotterbeck Allphin Schlotterbeck Allphin ans by facts which indicate that the greater per cent of our drowmings occur in unsupervised and unguarded areas. ifodern swimming pool construction has made swimming as safe and pleasant as is possible by constructing safe diving structures, safe and regulated water depths, pure water, and sanitary provisions. Persons living in areas where such a swimming facility is available would do well to confine their activities to these areas rather than to seek out the lakes ond streams isolated from supervision and protectione ‘The "Old Swimming Home" that James Whitcomb Riley immortalized is a con- tributing factor to many fatalities among the young boys of our countrys Do you mean that you would limit 211 swimming to organized and public swimming pools? Oh, by no meanse Persons trained and skilled in swimming and who have the knowledge to wisely select the natural swimming places may safely swim most anywhere. But the novice and the untrained and m- skilled would do well to remain.under the watchful cye of persons trained to look out for their safctye By skill for safety do you mean a person's ability to swim, or are there other skills nocessary for safe participation in swimming? Swimming is by all moans the first and most important skill nec- essary for a porson to acquire before participating in any form of aquatic sporte A survey conducted in the State of Minnesota, by the Minnesota Public Safety Cammittce, in 1931-35 dofinitoly brings this oute These findings indicated that 60 por cent of those drowned dur- ing that period wore noneswimmerss; 26 per cont were novice swimmors; and only 14 per cont were listed as expert swimmorse This would in- dicate that a person in order to safcly participate in any form of aquatic recroation should first of a11 “wotor-proof" himself by learn- ing how to swim reasonably welle This is truc coven though he intends to limit his activitics to fishing or boatinge Will you tcll us somothing of the National Aquatic School which will be conducted in this area during the coming summer? Eighteen years ago the First Aid and Lifo Saving Service of tho Red Cross first developed a National Aquatic School for the purpose of training leaders and teachers in the art of teaching First Aid, Life Saving and its related subjocts, This year thore will be 17 such schools in the United Statcs, five of which will bo in the middlo western statese Tho school to service this soction of the comtry will be locatod at Rockaway Beach, Missouri, on Lako Tancycomo, noar Branson, Missourie The dates of the school arc Junc 11-21. Enroll- ment in these schools is open to anyone in sound physical condition who is interested in teaching, First Aid, swimming, life saving, wotor safoty, and boating or canocinge The school at Rockayny Beach will offer a course in accident prevontion primarily designed for those who are intorested only in teaching First Aid and-in studying its related ficld, the general accident prevention programe Thank you very much, Mre Schlotterbeck, for appearing on this broadcast. We are enjoying your work hero, and wish you successe Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR HEALTH Radio Progrem April 20, 1959 ("Public Swimming Pool Conference"- Mr. Earnest Boyce and Mr. Herbert G. Allphin.) Perhaps some of our radio friends would like to know some thing about the public swimming pool conference which will be held here at the University during the next two days. In this connection, I would like to ask - does the Univer- sity have any state service responsibility in connection with public swimming pools? Yes, the swimming pool regulations of the State Board of Health are administered through the Division of Sanitation of the State Board of Health. This Division consists of two University state services - the Sanitary Engineering Service, established in 19C7, and the Water and Sewage Laboratory, in 1915. These services form a part of the State Service Work of the School of Engineering and Arch- itecture here at K. U. How long has the State Board of Health had regulations governing public swimming pools, Mr. Boyce? The State Board of Health adopted swimming pool regulation: in 1925. These followed in a general way the recommendat- fons of a joint committee of the American Public Health Association, and the Conference of State Sanitary Enghneers This joint committce has been studying the problems of swimming pool sanitation for a great many years. Well, Mr. Boyce, just what are your responsibilities in connection with public swimming pools in Kansas? The State Board of Health regulations are largely advisory. In other words, we attempt to make availab to municipal- ities and individuals interested in this form of recreat~- ional activity, all the factual data that we can obtain regarding good swimming pool sanitation. The state regue lations require that the plans and specifications of pro- possed swimming pools be submitted for review by the Division of Sanitation. This gives an opportunity to cal attention to design features which might be unsatisfactory from a gafety or sanitary point of view. We regard fhis work as more of an educational program than a regulatory One e Do you condemn and require the closing of unsatisfact public swimming pools? ’ oo While the regulations provide that the local hea ‘ of the State Board of Health mey require crak b coos ag Stat closed if, in the opinion of the health officer, the con- tinued operation of the pool would create a health hazard, very few swimming pools have been closed by order of the State or local health officers. Many improvements have been made to public swirming pools as a result of recomme* Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce wie ations made by the State Board of Health. What do you hope to accomplish in this conference this week-end? This conference, which is being sponsored by the School of Engineering in cooperstion with the Department of Bacteriology and the Department of Physical Education, is being held for the purpose of giving information to pool operators so that they will give better service and have more knowledge of how to keep the pools in a sanitary condition. ' About how many public swimming pools are there in Kansas? I belicve at the present time there are approximately 175. That gives a great many Kansas children. the opportunity to learn to swim. My father drove a stagecoach over Kansas in the early 80's, between St. Joseph Mo. and Dodge City, Kansas$ I have often heard him speak of swimming in the Arkenstis River near Gread Bend. Tell me, are most of these pools in good sanitary condition? In answer to this inquiry, I would say that most pool operators are conscienticusly trying to keep their swimming pools in good condition. However, the older pools do not have the equipment and water treatment facilities that are needed to mect the standards which the State Board of Health believes should be mot. Fortunately, however, public interest in improving swimming pool fecilities is very great, and during the past few years, many towns have provided excellent swimming pools to form a part of the recreational progrem of the commnity. I notice you are holding this conference the same week-end as the Kansas Relays. Is there any particular reason for this? Yos, this has been requested by a number of operators of swimming pools who are serving as high school coaches ‘ during the school year. They will be here for the Relays, and.they want to take this opportunity to use tine highs would not be occupied by the Relay activities, to get in- formation regarding the work they will do during the summer months. You will note that our program, Mr. Allphi has been arranged so that engineering problems of swimming pool design will be discussed on Friday afternoon. We appreciate that a great many of the high school coaches will be busy with the High School meet that afternoon. We have planned a program which will be of interest both to the engineers and to the operators on Friday evening. We will have a dinner at the Union Building followed by a discussion of swimming as a part of a commnity recreationa program. I think we have been very fortunate in getting Mr. Alfred MacDonald, who is park director of Wichita, anc Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce cn Bes who, by the way, has just been elected as the now Uity Manager of Wichita, to discuss this subject. Then, che moving pictures, which will be given through the courtesy of the Board of Park Commissioners of Wichita, will foilow Mr. MacDonald's talk, will give us 4 vory good idea of the very excellent prog span of community recreation that has developed in Wichita, as the State Board of Health or the state service work here at the University attempted any education program prior to this conference? Yes, there has been a groat deal of educationak work carricd on in connection with the publication of informat- ionel material with regard to swimming pool design problems Correspondence has been had with Consulting Engineers, Architoets, and others, with regard to the design of pocls being proposed by various municipalities. And then, for the last several years, we have been fortunate in having the assistance of Professor Treece of the Department of Bacteriology, who has been employed as a special inspector on swimming pool sanitation. Dr. Treece has been able in this manner to visit most of the public pools in the state and to give the operators technical advice with regard to sanitary problems. Tho demand for information with regard to swimming pool operation is emphasized by the fact that: Mr. Hunt, director of athletics at the Newken High School, held a conference last yeor on his own initdative for operators in that part Of the state. We were very glad to cooperate with Mr. Hunt and give him any assistance we could. Incidentally, he is on our program this year to discuss a life guard's duties and responsibilities. Mr. Allphin, I wonder if you cowld tell me something about your viow- points regarding this matter of a life guard's duties and responsibilities? I am glad you brought this matter up for it is one about Which I am very much concerned. I think the life guard i2 the most over-worked and underpaid of any profession that I know. The Department of Physical Education has many ner enrolled who are interested in summer employment as life- guards. As you said, this forms an excellent summer-tinic employment project for high school coaches. These men are accustomed to planning recreation activities for students of high school age. I am very glad Mr. Hunt is going to discuss this subject on the program Saturday morning. Mr. Allphin, I hope that you will be there and that you will discuss Mr. Hunt's paper. I agree with you that we need to have a very responsible person in charge of a publ” swimming pool and that high school coaches should be ex- cellent pool operators. Mr. Allphin, you are appearing on a program Saturday morning giving 2. talk on "Group Swimming Instruction for Children". Allphin Boyce whe Yes, I em, Mr. Boyce. There seems to be a difference cf opinion as to which type of instruction is the better to give, the private or the group. Individual differences should be taken into consideration. Some children will respond better to the private lessons. The adult usually desires private instruction, because he has a certain amount of ombarrassment in letting his friends know that he has not loarnec carlier in life. I have been asked to speak on group instruction for children and have the following points to present, which I believe havo signif- icance: First, Self Testing-- It is always interesting to the novice to see if he can master certain fundamental skills, also if he can perform them a little better next: time. If he is able to stay under water for five counts, to find out if he can stay under for ten counts the next swimming lesson. Second, Competition with his neighbor. We all like to excell and beat our competitor. Who doesn't like to wine The Group Instruction offers a great opport- unity for competition. Third, Promotes courage. In any group of children we will find a fow that will excell; a great number that will be average, and a fow that will be backward. This is according to the curve of distribution. This group instruction is ospecially beneficial for the packward child. To illustrate, let us take "Breath Holdirc We have 25 pupils lined up and the instructor gives the command to “fae” under water. Very few will fail in this fundamental because they do not wish to be singled out by the rest of the greup as not having done this part- foular oxorcise. Therefore this psychological urge teaches courage. Fourth, Cooperetion with the groupe This method teaches children to have the desire to help each other in learning some of the fundamental skills of beginning swimming. "Partner Stunts" are included in lessons which have a lasting effoct in teaching cooporetion. When a backward individual has mastered a certain fundamental, he wing social approval from the rest of the group in the way of applausee Fifth, Friendly associations. Children form friendships in group swimming that last through life. This type of instruction offers a very satisfying companic ship, especially to on egy child or to children of a famil” who live in urban homes and who have not had the privilege to mingle with their own age level, except possibly at school. I notice that on Saturday morning you will have a talk on the civic value of community recreation by Mr. Barnard Goodrum, who is recreation supervisor for the Park Board cf Wichita. Just whet did you have in minc in including this paper on the swimming pool conference program? A great many cities in Kansas fail to realize the civic responsibility and value of planning for the recreational life of the community. We believe that the Park Board of Wichita has done a very construct—- ive piece of work in making definite plans for community recreatione I am sure that Mr. Goodrum's talk will be of interest to many. In our opinion, Mr. Allphin, if it were not for the facilities provided in Lawrence by the University, Lawrence people would probably realize the inadequacy of the play facilities of this city. As fine as our Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce Allphin Boyce afjeo baseball program is, it is only a part of what might be had if we really visualized how we might enjoy as adequate park development, and a recreational program that would serve old and young alike. Just who may attend this conferenco on swimming pools} The conference is open to anyone who has any interest in the pro- gram. The meetings will be held in the Auditorium of the Enginecer- ing Building and anyone who is interested at all is welcome to attend any of the mootings. Is there any charge in connection with registration? No, there is no chargee We would bo glad to have anyone registor who is interested. If they wish to attend the dinner to be held at the Union Building, Friday evening at 6:15, thoy should make reservation at least by noon tomorrow, calléng KU. 112. The chargo for the dinner will be 60 cents plus taxe How many do you oxpect to have attend the conference? We have no wey of costimating. We are advised that there will be fifteen hore from Wichita, which is the largest group from any one place. We have a numbor of others, indicating good interest. How- ever, we do not feel that the success or failure of the conference will bo moasured so much by numbers as it will be by whether or not it will resubt in moro intelligent operation of swimming pools in the Statcescecccocccencecse eETEET ETT