Jim - Allen - Jim - Allen- Jim- Allen-= Jim- Allen=- Herb= fllen- o4e Fencing, like swimming and many other sports, is definitely physically bene- ficial. Herb has already montioned some goneral benefits derived from swim- ming which might easily be said of fencing. The grace and rhythm of muscular effort, the finesse of accuracy and speod, are some of the physical advantages of fencers. But a most important part of all our play in sports is not only the physical, but also tho mental relaxation and onjoyment accruing to par- ticipants in the game, These are very importent points, Jims How long havo you been developing fencing at the University of Kansas? I know overybody likes it, because our gymnasium halls are lined with interested spectators watching your classcs in foneing every afternoon. It's alluring. Maybe its the alluring co-eds, Jim. In 1935 Prof. Elbel and Dr. Naismith offcred me the opportunity of assisting them in building the sport. With their aid and some of my own ideas I coached the University of Kansas foncing team through to the first all- victorious secsone My first class of students was a group which included some of the Hill leaders, such as Clyde Nichols, Philip Renick, Lyman Field, Tom Orr, and others. Who are your best fencers now - or your "Three Musketeers"? Well, Tom Orr, son of Dr. Te. G. Orr, of our own Medical School, is our Por- thos; For Aramis, the second Musketoor, we have Kalman Oravetz, of Nowark, New Jersey; and our Athos is Carlos de Janon, of Panama. All these boys are members of the fencing team. But don't you have any gcod women foncers? I notice lots of girls in your fencing classose Oh, yes! Incidentally, we have the largest group of women fencers we've ever had, Tho three outstanding fencers among the womon are Miss Ernestine Swaf- ford, a senior in tho School of Fine Arts, from Fort Scott; Miss Nellis Hurt- gen, of Topeka, 2 freshman in Fine Arts; and Miss Nell Clark, from Troy, Kansas, a sophomore in the College. Herb, your sport is in the basemont of tho gymnasium, butI'll bet a lot of splashing goes on down theree On tho varsity swimming toam who are the stand-outs this year? Woll, Dre Allon, we have 3 letter mon of 1937 to form the mucleus of the squad: Wm. Gray and Proctor Ritchic, back strokers, and Vete Nowosinsko, distance swimmer. Charles Stipp, divor and Paul Fishor, distance man, of last year's team are also back. Tho now men out for the teem are Paul White, divors; Harry Brown and Robort Beolor and Frank Wilson, broast strokers. The dash men sre Wallis Campbell, Raymond Davidson, Alex Mitchell, and Gene Feastor, ; What's your outlook against compotition in tho Big Six, Herb?