Schwegler Allen Schwegler ~Oe You raise a very difficult and tricky question. Perhans ange. should fear to tread on this grovnd but since you ask me. 2 1413 widertake to tell you what is in my mind. Formal avhlotics, es presented by the spectacular performance of carefully scl. ober and trained teams, answer a deep psychological hunger rer rasvor; on the part of those of us who do not playe The mediaevai mig, jousting with his opponents in the presence of the assombled popue lace, is merely another answer to this same eternal hunger cf the human individual for mastery. The gladiatorial conbats in tie Roman arena are another. There has always boon the desire on thc part of the commonplace individual to have the psychic thrill of superiority and mastorye. ‘Unable conveniently to devise ways and means of achieving this fecling of mastery in connection with the humdrua routine of ordinary life, we set un occasional situations in connection with which we secure by a species of identification with our team the thrill of contest and the ecstacy of victory. Looked at from this anglo, athletics, whether intercollegiate or -otherwise, possess a very definite psychic and social values They bind otherwise loosely organized groups into coherent bodies. They offer escape mechanisms for persons about to be overwhelmed by the monotonous routine of daily servings Their valuc is undeniably great cnough to outweigh the dangers and disadvantages. If such wore not the case they would have been abandoned ages agoe However, they do not constitute physical educatione They are something wholly apart. It just happens that in order to be an efficient publicly acceptable professional ath- lete one has to be efficiont in physical skills and physical prowess. One*s health has to be topnotch, one has to practice in daily life the things that physical education teachese It is wfortunate, however, to confuse physical education with athletics. Physical excellence happens to be involved, but athlotics are not physical educations They merely utilize its products. Dean Schwegler, that is an interesting analysiss But would you not say that the series of inhibitive activitics that the athlete in- dulges in are cducational? Is there, or is there not, a transference of training from the field of athletic strife, where the boy learns to say "no" a thousand times to tenptation in order that he may say "yes" once to victory, to other ficlds of endeavor? Every study of the transfer of learning that has ccne to my attention points in the direction of a negative answor to your question. The facts of human experience as illustrated by the extraescholastic life of athletes scoms to coincide fairly well with the theoretical discoveries of the laboratorye It is almost a conmonplaco to learn that the athlote off tho job is not characterized by any outstand- ing degree of tomperance or continence; and there is in many, many cases a painful record of physical and mental disastor resulting from the obliteration of inhibitions, cither during or shortly after the period of athletic preeminence, There is little reason to be- lieve that, except under somewhat special conditions, tho habits of continence and temperance which fumetion almost automatically when