complish. I assert that the Senator from Montana has rendered’a great pub- lic service in arousing the thought of the people of the country on this. most important: question. Later I expect to take the floor in my own right to discuss the subject now under debate. I am one of the group which has been working with the senior Senator from Ohio [Mr. Tart] in preparation of an amendment which will bear upon the matters to which the Senator from Mon- tana is addressing himself. Begging the Senator’s pardon for in- terrupting him, I invite attention to a letter addressed to me from Wichita, Kans., dated September 16, 1943, in which my friend, the writer, states as _ follows: I would suggest that a thorough investi- gation be made of these so-called essential single men in the defense plants. It may interest the Senator to know that Wichita is one of four or five largest centers of aircraft manufacture in the country, and is the largest center of such manufacture in the whole cen- tral West. My friend continues as follows: From my own observation in the Wichita airplane plants, and I have worked at several of them, I would say that a great many young men are needlessly deferred. I am certain that they could be replaced by IV—F’s, fathers, women, and older men. In one large plant, great numbers of young men, foremen and assistant foremen, sit for hours with their feet on the desks with very little to do. I am telling you the things I have seen. ‘ Mr. WHEELER. I thank the Senatcr very much. I am glad that there are at least one or two Senators who are sufficiently interested in the country, and sufficiently interested in the drafting of fathers, to obtain and to listen to facts. When I returned after the recess of Congress some of my Democratic col- leagues said they did not know anything about the bill or about the facts and that they wanted some facts. Now when we propose to give them some facts they will not even listen. Mr. REED. tor from Montana that during the re- cess of the Senate, from the middle of July until the middle of September, I Spent the time entirely in my own sec- tion of the country. In the 5 years I have been a Member of the Senate, in 554199—3636 I may say to the Sena- all the trips combined I have made home, I do not think I have talked to so many people as I talked to during the recess. Kansas and Colorado, where I spent a couple of weeks, happen to have a very large number of defense plants, a very large number of air bases, and other. Army camps. Everywhere I went, with- out exception, in Kansas, Missouri, in Colorado, I heard constant discussion and statements made by people of con- ditions that come under their own ob- servation in their own localities, dealing, for instance, with the excessive number of men in the camps, indicating that the Army really had more men than it knew what to do with, and dealing also with the very definite factor that the defense plants had been used with the approval, and in fact, by the manage- ment for the purpose of accumulating young manpower to help them in avoid- ing the draft. I can make that state- ment after the most thorough and satis- factory contacts with my own constitu- ents in Kansas and in other midwest States in the 2 months I was home. Mr. WHEELER. I thank the Senator. As I was saying a moment ago, my Democratic friends on this side desired to have hearings before the committee because they wanted to get the facts; they were not familiar with them. All that it is necessary to do is to take a look on the Democratic side today and see how many of them are interested in obtaining the facts. The truth about the matter is that if they want to get men for the Army without taking fath- ers they can get them; they do not have to take a father; but, apparently, the Senate of the United States or at least my Democratic colleagues, prefer to take fathers. Mr. REED. I happen to have another letter that touches upon a different fac- tor, but a very important factor, in this situation. I read from a letter addressed to me from a town in western Kansas, in which this statement appears: if the Congress does not assert itself, this country is going to be in a hell of a shape. I have a good friend who is county chairman of a bond drive in the eastern part of Kansas, who made this statement recently: “It takes a hell of a lot of guts for me to ask people to buy bonds when we all know that about three-fourths of all the money obtained from these bonds will be wasted in the adminis-~ tration of the war and the Federal Govern- ment.” ‘