(5 ave desirous of answering Ste Jolis _i heartily agree with you that we should simplify. Personally, I have uever had any difficulty with the admine istration of the rulese My notion would be that the 3 _ division line is just as you say, in effect a boundary line with the exception that the team in possession of the ball See mee Gee OE RROn ily Ae Say aed eet oe Bae : has not lost possession of its. liy notion has been that when a player carries the aindty waver We GAT ak tee thee anak, aa te etually carried the hall into the front court, pr . player could raise front foot or he could stand still pass the ball to another player who is standing on the lon limes But if he passed the ball into the back court BBE j ~ ¢ ar cocci, sii Gok hives sen adtedae he Sins bo could still dribble across the division line, bouncing the ball on either side of the division line without ereating a fault or a penalty. We have never had any difftoulty with this, Floyd, but our high school people here in Kansas and Missour’. have division line inside of pass it in as we do from the boumdary line, I will go along with thate. : . Personally, y do nod feed Ghat At tn dns Senertents As i said, i find the high schools quibbling more over it than the university, but you can coumt on my going along with yous Be sure you write me after it has been determined, and I will support your contention, As I said, not a has come up in this regard that has caused us the least bit of trouble. : _ .. Dihweetor of Physical Education, PCA 3AH | Varsity Basketball Coache DEPARTMENT OF INSTRUCTION December 23, 1937 Dr. Forrest C. Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear "Phog" : I am in receipt of a copy of your new book from the publisher, and am very appreciative of your courtesy in having it sent to me. I think it is a fine book, and if you would teke the trouble to autograph it and return it to me, 1 would treasure it so much more, Knowing that you will be only too glad to do this, I am mailing it to you, with the request that you autograph it and send it back to me. Had a lot of correspondence with both Porter and Tower on this division line interpretation business. St. John has asked the Executive Committee to register its vote regarding the division line and the interpretation of conditions existing. After all the smoke is cleared away, I have come to this conclusion, and I am submitting it to you for your consideration, I wish you would be very frank with me, not only as a member of the Rules Committee, but as basketball's outstanding coach, about just what you think of my suggestions in the matter. St. John's suggestion is that the center line be considered the same as any other boundary line, Personally I see no reason why this is not logical, The only difference, as I see it, between the division line and the boundary line is that when a team has the ball out of bounds, they have five seconds to return it. I don't believe any official would object to a team which had the ball out of bounds, dribbling it up and down the side-lines and putting it in play by passing it in to a teame mate at the designated point, providing the five seconds were not used UPe In other words, to my way of thinking, the division line is in effect a boundary line, excepting that the team in possession of the ball has twice as long to get it into play as they do if it is out of bounds at the side or end. Giving them these ten seconds, we have also given the defensive team the right to interfere with their putting it into play in the ten seconds, if they care to do so. ADDRESS ALL CORRESPONDENCE FOR THE ATTENTION OF THE PERSON SIGNING Dr. Forrest C. Allen Page 2. December 23, 1937 Now then, following this reasoning to its logical conclusion, why shouldn't the Rules Committee say that the only difference between the two situations exists in the fact that we permit a team to carry the ball over the division line inside the ten seconds, and do not force them to pass it in as we do from the boundary line? From a coach's standpoint, would it complicate things very much if the Rules Committee said this to you as a coach: "Boys who have one foot on the division line or who come to an astride position across the division line may not pivot, excepting to pivot in such a manner as to bring both feet into the front court." In other words, a fellow comes astride the line and the present interpretation is that he may pivot on his front foot and keep his back foot in the rear court if he cares to do so. There is also an interpretation that if he comes to a stop with one foot on the division line, he may then pivot through 360 degrees, if he cares to do so, so long as he pivots on the foot which is in contact with the division line, This new interpretation would do away with the players’ ability to do these two things. It would also do away with the interpretation which now permits a fellow with one foot on either side of the division line to dribble across the court, keeping one — on either side of the division line. There has been so much difference of opinion in regard to the administration of this rule that I would like to find an easy way out of ite However, in doing so, I don't think the Rules Committee has the right to place too big a@ responsibility on the coach, purely from a coach's standpoint. Your judgment in this matter will mean more to me than that of any one else I can think of, I have talked with Olsen at Ohio State and while I am not trying to prejudice your ee. he feels very strongly about it, and much the same as I do, | Looking forward to getting my book back, properly autographed, and wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, I am Sincerely yours He? FAR&McG Floyd A. Rowe ce : January 11, 1938. bordel hy cep yeninalanonglh apt. night to Oklahom, 49 to 46, so you can see what Of & datente we hart : If I can help you in any way feck free to sali upon me, The coaching game is also tough, George, and I don't know whether you are in a better job where you are or whether you could improve yourself back in a coaching jobe You can count on my help. Sincerely yours, Director of Physieal Education, FOAs AH Varsity taakeiats Coaches OFFICIAL SERVICE FOR EXIDE BENDIX UNITED MOTORS B-K BoosTERS THIRD AND WASHINGTON STREETS PHONES: McCOY AUTO COMPANY poreane ATeates 1s VANCOUVER’S BIG ALL-NIGHT GARAGE SALES AND SERVICE PONTIAC, LA SALLE AND CADILLAC GOODYEAR TIRES AND BATTERIES VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON December 87, 1957. Dr. F. Ce Allen, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. Dear Doc: This, no doubt, is a surprise, hearing from me in this part of the country. The fact of the matter is, conditions got so bad around St. Joseph, that I decided to try the west coast for a time. This is wonderful country, and outside of the winter rains, the climate leaves nothing to be desired, as it remains mild most of the winter, and there is only a small variation between winter and summer. The only difficulty out here is the fight between the two Unions, which has all but ruined busi- ness for the last three months. However, if they can ever get together, there should be lots of business. I suppose by this time that you are weil on your way to another championship, and also at this time of the year, I yearn to get back into the coaching game. I am in correspondence with Mr. T. A. Bickerstaff, Chairman of the Athletic Commettee, at the University of Mississippi in regard to the basketball position at that school. This school has, in the past, had some real material, and I feel sure that if I could land the place, I could turn out good teams. If you can give me any help, it will certainly be appreciated as I know a letter from you would stand me in good stead. I am in hopes that the family and yourself enjoyed a very nice Christmas and I hope that you enjoy a very happy New Year. Yo very sincerely, Evergreen Hotel, Geo. E. Roady Vancouver, Wash. February 235, 1938-4 : | | WW January 22, 1938~— Mr. Orlo Robertson, The Associated Press, 383 Madison Avenue, New York City, Nate Dear Mire Robertsons 1 hewe delayed somihat tn sumeerinc ‘your favor 14th instant, due to the fact that we took a trip dom to mettle with the Tigers of Old iissout, wtles tar ean ahead of the pack, but it ms a great battle. Any time in Tigersland you have a fight on your hands. 8 5 fs our e out § By the way, I wonder if you have seen a copy of ny ‘book, Better Basketball, published by lctraw-Hill Book Companys I an sure that they sent Alan Gould a copy, but I do uot mow whether you have seen it or mote If you would like to have one, I would be glad to write Mr. Curtis McGraw and have him send ono over to yous of Kensase He played three yoars, 1921-22«2S5~ Central High Scliool in Kereas City, but a4 not go to college. Ne wont to the University of Missouri for one semester but returned and went into business with his fether in the produce business et the markete Starbuck played with the Y.li.C.A. team out of Kansas City in the National A,A.U. tournament, played with the Halliards, and other independent teams uotil he had his arm cut very gevereky <5 on eetcnthie seciduit, and tnt ended Ma teaietinli participation. ‘High School, Mimea- for me at the Teachers College MoMillan's boys at Mimnesota,- the Edison “Hes dtt Fess a i Lag ne esta 1 2 as fine as any biediey |. wife. <. - HEE GLa aihd, a i au ue Hig : pun fia mary Gai alu Hash Ista i dehig Vagetlas cal ised duane ll ieee ee baggtas?) site 3 ty , he ‘de listen Taatiilh FE f Mi i : ig li ( i : i ak F : i fs E Z t : ! E : + i F BE ERE ' % ef & & | : : REEELE tg8 iu free e = i st that this wil] give you enough information to allow you desire, For six or seven years I wrote syndicated your Madison Avenue offices pe li in ef ef ef i ‘ i . : » Memed Harp « a sophomore, who plays the post d him down to a couple of goals, but up here he s only a second year man down there, end when he years at Southwestern George Garduor will have one s of the countrys | ve ; : i ‘ EE a t i tte Hi i if f i ES , If I eume to ilew York I will drop in and have a visit with With every good wish, I am Sincerely yours, ‘Director of Physical Education, FOASAH Varsity Basketball Coache The Associated Press NEW YORK JAN. 14, 1938 DH. FORREST C. ALLEN, UNIV. OF KANSAS, LAWRENCE, KANS. DEAR PHOG*=— FOR A SERIES OF STORIES TO BE CARRIED BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, 1 AM ASKING A FEW OF THE LEADING COACHES AND OFFICIALS OF THE COUNTRY TO SELECT THEIR ALL-TIME, ALL-AMERICA COLLEGE BASKETBALL TEAMS, YOU SHOULD BE A GOOD AUTHORITY AS YOU HAVE SEEN JUST ABOUT THE BEST THE MID-WEST HAS PRODUCED IN THE LAST 20 OR SO YEARS. BEING FROM WINFIELD, | NATURALLY THINK THAT THE GAME HAS PRODUCED FEWRR GREATER PLAYERS THAN DE BERNARDI,ACKERMAN, PETE REIF, THE GARDNER BROTHERS OF ARK. CITY AND SOME OF YOUR STARS AT K.U, JOHN BUNN TOLD ME RECENTLY THAT KANSAS! FRESHMAN TEAM OF ABOUT 1922(DE BERNARDI, ACKERMAN AND ETC’ WAS JUST ABOUT THE BEST HE-HAS SEEN, | MAYBE YOU CAN ALSO TELL ME WHETHER LONG JOHN WOLFF SINGER AND STARBUCK OF THE OLD K.C.A.C. TEAM EVER ATTENDED COLLEGE. “IN MAKING YOUR SELECTIONS, 1 WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE COMMENT ON EACH PLAYER, ALSO THE NAMES OF A FEW OF THE GREATEST TEAMS YOU HAVE SEEN. MAYBE IT WOULD BE EASIER, IF YOU WOULD NAME TWO TEAMS, IF POSSIBLE, | WOULD LIKE THE INFORMATION WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TEN DAYS. MANY THANKS FOR THE COOPERATION. ie Y bk Ig fete January 18, 95S. - Me Orlo Robertson, The Associated Press, New York, N.Y. Dear Bre Robertsons : Your letter of the 1th instant ms received in today's mail. I am leaving this afternoon with the basketball team for Columbie, Missouri, where we play on the 19the ‘Imeediately on my return I shall be glad to take up the points mentioned in your letters | Trusting the slight delay will not greatly See ee Director of Physical Education, x. og — er ee «| ~ 62 thank youe a dropped or ay % this thats ee ‘B08 noe thet you Hh July 2, 1038s at the | L that = ¢ by gery y no approved potent part, for ubieh I Very sinacroly y Director of Physical | Vorsity Bashe Coathe PCAsAH Bhi. i gbas is GR Gun a Ait Le. ee k 5 Fi ai Aha set dt ad ih st FE villi al li Hf = : He 3 Ht E ii id cee ait btu nt | i Hl ‘tli ahd iH Tdi au Very sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education, Varsity Basketball Coache 717 G ran tAve. Barte/ Jp3s, Honsas. FC Allen Kansas University Lawrence, Kansgs. ° ee ut, is 4 : 13 a a i lig ‘i i i ® as ta a Be a a! 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LF You should fapren to need SOine HK chifectura/ work or tracing oF naps, Projects ef any tind, T ain do tot ake sor Te done perk OF that —— Very much jn dact. Vou sehed Sor ny transept Lut // get that to You as soon as possible, 77 ferson Tmast see fos Jone oh tis vaca tor put T assure you it wi L/ be tiere. Hoping You Cat Find Sfloe Ser my/ talent and You pave @ wonder fu/ Vacation 7 moilf GS Gespectiely Ya ou rs Bide ty ie fh, aa ai ui peas uti ti if aig hill tn _ ages bite He i Af | de Hana. geen Matha He a Oo a g nt December 24, 1937 I will help you in every thoughtful. Christmas card which arrived this morning. I assure you way poncibles Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Educations if you de net get lined up after the first of the yoor, please let me hear frea you, Bill. I appreeiatedc your Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a very Prosperous and Happy Hew Year, I am ike e i aid it Be ie 83 Ff ay j ff Mi j sal Mirivertid (937 V IAT [fferreccerte Mee. 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