Che National League of Urofessional Base Ball Clubs eo A we i 7 RC A Builxing - 30 Rockefeller Plaza New Work May 3rd I9AI. Dr.F.C.Allen, Director of Physical Education, University of Kansas, Lawrence Kansas, Dear "Phog"; : Enclosed you will please find a copy of a letter written to Mr.Engleman. My kindest regards to the Allen family----and you. q ert. E.C.Quigl ey. ECQ;ce May 3ré I94I, vr,Powaréd Tngleman, ¢ Dept. of Physical Education, University of Fansas, Lawrence Kansas. bear Mr, Engleman; received which is; Replying to your inquiry just Premise; | "our base ball class has been discussing the follow- a rule on the play diagrammed on the accompaning orm To explain the play in ert 2 The batter hite a ground ball down the first base line, There is a base runner on first base, The base~ runner immediately starts for second base, The first baseman traps the ball and steps on first retiring the batter, Now the question is; vhat is the statue of the runner? | (A)s _ _ be put ovt at second by merely tagging second se (3); Yuet he be tagged out? (c}; Can he return safely to first if he is eble to do 80 and still be safe or is he forced to take second the minute the bell ie hit?” (End of quote.) Rule Application; yhen base runners are out: “ple 49; See, 113 ! “if,whea the beteman becomes a bace runner, the firet bese,or the first and second bases, | or the first,second and third bases be occup~ jed,any base runner so occupying @ base shail eease to be entitled to hold it,and may be put gut at the next base in the same manner 468 in (A) running to firet base,or by being touched with the 1 in the hané of a fielder at any time before any base runner following him in the batt- | ing order be put out,vuniess etc.” (Bnd of quote) definition of a Force Flay: mule 525 (second Paragraph); A force out can be made only when @ base runner (3) legally loses the risht to a base he occupies by : reason of the bateman becoming @ base-runuer and he is thereby forced to advance.” (nd of quote) My.Howard !ngeleman: (Page 2.) Disputation: Official and At the instent the batter hit that fair ball the base-runner, then occupying first base,ceased to be entitled to hold that base and could be put out by the ball being thrown to second base ahead of the base-runner,or the base runner being touched with the ball in the hand of a fielder at any time before any base runner following him in the batting order be put out. when the batter was retired at first base then the force ceased to exist and the only way the base runner who was on first base could be put out would be to be tagged with the ball when not in contact with a base and the force ceasing to exist he had a right to occupy first base if,and when, he were able to do so. Playing the ball to second base, by the first baseman,after he,the first base man,had tagged first base and being held on second base would not be "putt- ing that base runner out", Correct answers}; (A) 3 No; | (B)3; He must be tagged out; (C)j; He may return to first base and be safe there provid- ed he is not tagged with the ball while not in contact Thank you MR.Engleman for that fine question; would it in- terest you to know that I straightehed thie same problem out for the Director of Athletics,at waseda Univergity, Tokyo Japan, It will be a pleasure to have you contact me if,and when,you have any other problems, : My Kindest regards to Dr.Allen; LL, Cordially, E.G. Quigley. v August 14, 1941. Mr. Lyle T. Quinn, Manager, Iowa High School Athletic Association, 1132 Des Moines Building, Des Moines, Iowa. Dear Mr. Quinn: I am in receipt of your letter of the 13th instant, end am glad to kmow that your enrollment is coming along in such ea fine manner. I am sure we shall have a good coaching school. I em driving to Iowa in my own car, and expect to reach Boone Sunday afternoon. As soon as I get there I shall call yous Looking forward to seeing you, and with best wishes, I am ' Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education and Recreation, FCA: AH Varsity Basketball Coach. OWA HIGt) SKOOL AMEE ASSORIATION BOARD OF CONTROL CHAIRMAN TREASURER H.E.ILSLEY + SPIRIT LAKE JF.t.. SAUR< FAIRFIELD C.L. ELLIS » NEW PROVIDENCE LW.EDIE) RUDD 0.C.VARNER + DIAGONAL NORTHWEST SOUTHEAST CENTRAL NORTHEAST SOUTHWEST } tt | | FEEE cee ae CA °o fe} + s LYLE T. QUINN 1132 DES MOINES BUILDING MANAGER DES MOINES, IOWA August 15, 1941 Dr. Forrest C. Allen Director of Physical Education and Recreational Varsity Basketball and Baseball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Alien: Tocdate we have received 125 paid advance registrations for our Coaching School and I feel quite confident that this: number will probably be doubled by the time our school getsunder way. I thought you might be interested in knowing the approximate size of the group that will be present. I would suggest that you plan to arrive at the school Sunday afternoon if possible. We will have a place for you to stay evening. I would appreciate it if you would let me know whether you are driving or coming on the train. In the event that you take the train, I'll be very happy to meet you at Boone. Yours very truly, . Lyle T. Quinn, “anager Mr. lyle T. Quinn, Vanager, Tews High School Athletic Association, 1182 Des Moines Building, Des Moines, lowis Hy dear Lyle: Thank you very much for your splendid letter and chook which cane to my deck this morning. | Tt wes a genuine pleasure to spend the past week in such a finely orgenized and cooperative school. The splendid manner in which the school wes run is a high tribute to your orgenizing ability. ‘The informality reflected your genial disposition. T assure you thet any time I am in or around Les Woines I will drop in for a visit with you. And may I say that any time you are around the environs of Lawrence, Yansas, it will be a pleasure to see you, and further, we would like to have you as our guest at any of our gemes whether here in Lawrence or awaye Just please notify me of your coming and it will be a pleasure to have you as our guest. Fith all good wishes, I om Sincerely yours, _ Director of Physical Education and Recreation, FCA: AH Varsity Basketball end Baseball Coach. BOARD OF CONTROL CHAIRMAN H.E.ILSLEY = SPIRIT LAKE NORTHWEST TREASURER J.F.T. SAUR + FAIRFIELD c.L.ELLIS +» NEW PROVIDENCE IW. EDIE - RUDD 0.C.VARNER + DIAGONAL SOUTHEAST CENTRAL NORTHEAST SOUTHWEST E tH] : : eee cy mii © Pein @ PAPA LYLE T. QUINN aR 1132 DES MOINES BUILDING MANAGER gels alan DES MOINES, IOWA VaUuLEe Bane Eines. Cbs AlinES (ee Dr. Forrest C. Allen Director of Physical Education and Recreation University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dre Ailen: We are enclosing our check for $221.40 which will in a small way indicate you our appreciation for the splendid work that you did for us in our Coaching School and Officials' Clinic held here in Iowa this week. The school more than lived up to our fondest hopes and expectations end whatever success was achieved was due entirely to the splendid performance of men like yourself, Bierman, Shaughnessy and Iba. The Iowa Association will feel indebted to you men for a long time for the splendid manner in which you made our first Coaching School and Officials' Clinic a hugh success. I hope on one of your various trips to Iowa that you will find time to stop in our office here in Des Moines as I should always enjoy a visit with you. Yours very truly, LE Oe lyle T. Quinn, Manager December 13, 1940 Mre Lyle Te Quinn Town High Sehool Athletic Association Valley Bank Bldge Des Moines, Iowa Dear Mre Quinn: I regret that I will be in New York city on December 27 and 28 and therefore will be umable to accept your very kind invitation to attend your Coaching School and Officials’ Clinics It is always a pleasure for me to cooperate with high school associations whenever it is possibles It would be a pleasure to be with you, I assure yous Sincerely yours, Director of Physical Education and Recreation Varsity Basketball Coach FCAsig BOARD OF CONTROL H.EL.ILSLEY « CHAIRMAN NORTHWEST SPIRIT LAKE TREASURER J.F.T. SAUR + FAIRFIELD cC.L.ELLIS + NEW PROVIDENCE 1.W. EDIE - RUDD 0.C.VARNER + DIAGONAL SOUTHEAST CENTRAL NORTHEAST SOUTHWEST coo A} LYLE T. QUINN 7 ASSISTANT SECRETARY a4 eT | GEORGE A. BROWN EXECUTIVE SECRETARY VALLEY BANK BLDG. + DES MOINES,IOQWA December 9, 1940 Mr. Phog Allen University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Mre Allen: The Iowa High School Athletic Association is planning a Coaching School and Officials' Clinic to be held at Marshalltown, Iowa on December 27 and 28, 1940. We are very anxious to have you present at that school to talk to our coaches and officials on the subject of high school basketbal 1 coaching and officiating. We are trying to line up some other outstanding coaches and we are extremely anxious to have you a member of our coaching staff. We realize that this invitation is coming rather late. We don't want you to feel that we have can- vassed other coaches prior to inviting youe The fact is that our Association has just decided in the. past few days to conduct this school and thet is the reason for what appears to be a late invitation. We would appreciate very much in knowing what your fee would be should you find it possible to be pre=- sent with us on one or both of these day. Very truly yours, aS y Assistant Secretary LTQ: EMF