‘the chancellor of New York university. 16 THE POST PHONE—MAIN 2121 é THE DENVER POST—FIRST IN EVERYTHING MONDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1944 EW FORCE JOINS ALLEN IN FIGHT ON GAMBLING HAT’S a beautiful brannigan ‘‘ Phog’’ Allen has started. Like everybody else, standing along the sidelines of Pier Six, I am enjoying the brawl, no end. Whether or not the good doctor of physical education. at Kansas U, proves his charges of ‘‘thrown games’’ in Madison Square Garden—and erent according to news association reports, has telegraphed names to Madison Square’s Ned Irish—he has, from all evidence in so far, put his finger on something mighty serious. Suppose we just leave “Phog” out of this entirely. Let us take the experience of Vadal Peterson, coach of Utah uni- versity’s N. C. A. A, Invitational champion while in New York. Let us add to that the experiences of Ev Shelton and Elton Davis of Wyoming when they took the Cowboys back to the Garden, These experiences have been set out in detail in these columns _ _ in past days. You know how both clubs lived in an atmosphere in . which it was necessary to have the rooms occupied by the players guarded by minions of the law at all times; how Peterson had to . have the telephones cut off from his team’s quarters; how, accord- _ing to Buddy Hassett of Georgetown U.—Wyoming’s opponent— (as quoted by Shelton) a proposition was made to two Georgetown players, Krause and Mankin. Then read Lawton Carver, International News Service sports editor, in this issue of THE POST—A witness against Allen, by the way—who nevertheless tells how Madison Square is infested by gamblers, cluttering the aisles “bickering and dickering” over sports events. HERE is a body called the National Collegiate Athletic association— the N. C, A, A. It is headed by Prof. Philip O, Badger, assistant to Its secretary-treasurer is Maj. John L. Griffith, conference commissioner of the Big Ten. Its vice presi- dents are John M. Harmson, Boston U.; William A. Read, Colgate; Dean A. W. Hobhs, University of North Carolina; Prof, George L, Rider, Miami ‘U.; H, H. King, Kansas State; Prof. J. S§. McIntosh, Southern Methodist; Watch for This; It Will Be Good! Mr. Jack Carberry, Sports Editor DENVER POST, Dear Jack: This is to follow up my press wire sent you Friday night. I am very much interested in the many different questions raised by Dr. Forrest Allen’s letter and am planning to write at some length in an attempt to cover most of them. I am leaving for the east and will not be back until Oct. 30, which means that I cannot send you my full opinions until about that time. Mean- while, suffice it to say that Dr. Allen has hit at some of the basic difficulties of intercollegiate athletics, and I want to congratulate you on airing these ideas thru the offices of your paper. Sincerely yours, HARRY CARLSON, Dean of Men and Athletic Direc- tor of the University of Colorado. Prof. John W. Olmsted, U. C. L. A.. and Prof O. L. Troxel of our own Colorado Aggies. The members at large are Col. L. McC. Jones of the U. S. Military academy, Norton Prichett of the University of Virginia, Dean L, K, Neidlinger of Dartmouth, Prof, H. C. Willett of U. S, C., Prof. L, W. St. John of Ohio State, Dr, Harry A. Scott of Rice and Capt. John E. Whel- chel of the U, S. Naval academy. Its executive committee is composed of our own President T, J. Davies of Colorado College, Prof. William B. Cwens of Stanford, Ogden D. Miller of Yale, Prof. Karl E. Leib of Iowa U,, Wilbur C, Smith of Tulane and Clarence P. Houston of Tufts. Asa S. Bushnell of Princeton is its acting” director. Mighty men—mighty names, these! This association has a creed—a code to which every basketball coach in every one of its schools subscribes. I quote from that creed: “TI believe that the proper administration of this sport (basket- ball) offers an effective laboratory method to develop in its ad- herents high ideals of sportsmanship; qualities of co-operation, courage, unselfishness and self-control; DESIRES FOR CLEAN, HEALTHFUL LIVING, and respect for wise discipline and authority. “T believe that basketball has an important place in the gen- eral educational scheme and pledge myself to co-operate with others in the field of education to so administer it that its value will never be questioned,” URELY none of the gentlemen named above, or anyone else, will be S so bold as to say that the experiences—remember, we are leaving “Phog” Allen completely out of this picture—of the Rocky Mountain par- ticipants in N. C. A, A, activities in New York, tended to, as the creed puts it, “develop—a desire (on the part of college boys) FOR CLEAN, HEALTHFUL LIVING.” What, may I ask, were the “dicks” doing guarding their doors? Why were the telephones cut off? Here's one the N, C, A, A, can’t walk away from. T MAKES not one iota of difference, the way we see it, what may or may not have occurred in the past, relative to the “throwing” of games. If, under the setup, as described, not by Allen, but by the sympathetic Carver in his article of this date—his picture of the scene at Madison Square, with the Broadway mob dominating the scene—games have not already been “thrown” the greater the surprise. Who are these kids who have to be guarded, by detectives, in their hotel rooms; whose telephones have to be served; who, despite this, receive calls offering them money? Go back to the colleges from which they came. Many—the great majority, I would say—are what can best be called “poor men’s sons.” “Rich men’s sons,” for the most part, do not attend the colleges whose teams, over the years, have played in Madison Square, and the big money tournaments. Many—a great, great Inany—are boys working their way thru school. We've been into that before, out here. We can name names, for anybody who wants them, bf boys, playing on college teams, within our own Big Seven conference, who have gone into contests actually hungry. We know kids who have lived, thru athletic seasons, when they could not devote time to jobs and still keep their places on the athletic units, who lived on hamburgers— and there were times when they didn’t have the price of even these. It stands as a monument, indeed, to American youth—to American college youth—that boys so situated have had the qualities which have given them the courage to face the temptations which admittedly surround them in the atmosphere as described—not by Allen, remember, but by Carver. * * * Be EReBORy is praiseful of Ned Irish and for all he has done for basketball. This New York sports writer did, without doubt, put the cage game on “the big time” as it has been stated. It is very “big time” now—a regular circuit in which college boys are used as performers in a series of stands, exactly as are touring professionals, theatrical companies and such. This circuit extends outward from the Garden to Buffalo and Philadelphia—towns in which the visitors to the Garden are built up for their Broadway appearance. But that isn’t college athletics, If Madison Square and its branches want to run this kind of a show then let Madison Square set up a pro league, just as foot- ball has set up its pro league. 3 Then basketball, as does football and baseball, have its czar, capable of handling the New York situation. Personally this department is not concerned in the slightest with Allen’s charge that “GAMES ALREADY HAVE BEEN THROWN.” The past, in that respect, is the past. I hope and trust that Ned Irish will not release the names demanded by him, and according to the news associations, supplied by Allen, This would do no good whatever. What is needed is for the gentlemen named above to sit down in counci] right now, as the 1944-45 season approaches, and do the only honest, decent thing basketball—college basketball—can do. Give the game hack to the colleges—and the college kids, Let Madison Square, if it wants to, set up its pro league as did football, and before it baseball. I, for ene, wouldn’t want a kid of mine being kissed by a Néw York gambler who just won $15,000 on his basket—nor would I want that kid living thru his pregame hours in rooms around which it was necessary to throw cordons of detectives with sev- ered telephone connections, and men coming to doors asking “how much?” to throw the contest. A little honesty—athletic honesty—by the men at the head of N. C, A. A. and the basketball scandal of 1944 will be forgotten. Failure to act and the things “Phog” Allen predicts will happen as sure as today is Monday. SPORTS MIRROR | FIVE YEARS AGO—Tennessee TEN YEARS AGO—William Wal- ranked at top of nation’s football|} ~ resigned as president of Chicago teams, Notre Dame second in Asso-| Cubs’ National league baseball club; ciated Press pool, ' | P. K, Wrigley took over presidency. PITTS DR. H.C. CARLSON SAYS GAMBLERS HAVE FINGER ON GAME Eastern Sports Writers Wax Indignant, but Reveal How ‘Tinhorns’ of the ‘Broadway Mob’ Infest Madison Square at All Sporting Events. (By JACK CARBERRY.) (Denver Post Sports Editor.) HERE was no word Monday from Madison Square Gar- den, New York, to which, on Saturday, Dr. Forrest C. (Phog) Allen, basketball coach and head of the physical education department at Kansas university, addressed ‘a tele- gram naming names of college basketball players, who, he said, had accepted money from gamblers for what he claimed was the “throwing of games.” Allen, Monday, had the support of a powerful ally, Dr, H. C. Carlson, basketball coach at the University of Pittsburgh. Dr, Carlson, from his office in Pittsburgh, said “Phog Allen is right, and something will have to be done to stamp out gambling, The gamblers are getting out of hand and bold in their dealings.” Dr. Carlson said the situation was spreading beyond New York. “Their (the gamblers’) fingers are on the game everywhere,” he stated. Even as Dr. Carlson came to Al- len’s backing an old pupil of the Kansas basketball coach, Emil Lis- ton, executive director of the Na- tional Association of Intercollegiate Basketball—promoters of a Kansas City, Mo., basketball tournament each March—lashed out at his old teacher. He accused Dr. Allen of a “deplorable lack of faith in Amer- ican youth and meager confidence in the integrity of coaches,” Allen, Monday, replied saying: “T find Mr. Liston’s childlike faith very touching and I hope nothing ever happens to enlighten him.” In Salt Lake City Vadal Peter- son, Utah coach, whose club will again play in Madison Square Garden this year, as will Coach Ev Shelton’s Wyoming charges, added to his statement of Satur- day in which he told how a man came to the Utah club’s rooms in New York this spring asking how much Utah would take to throw its game with Dartmouth, Peterson said he “told the man off’ and then “slammed the door on him.” “Fans,” Peterson said Monday, “bet on basketball games just as they do on elections or any other contest.” Allen replied to this saying: “Vadal is talking about bet- ting by fans and I have no‘argu- ment with the fan who wants to bet on a game, But the man who came to the Utah rooms in New York and asked how much it would cost to haye Utah throw a game was not a fan contem- plating a casual wager.” Allen said he joined with Peter- son in his belief that Ned Irish, manager of Madison Square Gar- den, made every effort to prevent gambling, He added that his only target of criticism was the profes- sional gambler who, Allen said, “would like to fix games.” Irish, Friday, wired THE DEN- VER POST saying he did not per- mit known gamblers to enter Madi- son Square Garden, and that he was receiving full co-operation from New York police in his efforts to keep these men from the arena. The following story was carried nationally Monday, written by Law- ton Carver, International News Service sports editor, who with oth- er New York newspapermen’ has waxed most indignant over Allen’s supplemental charge that the scan- dals relative to New York basket- ball were “kept quiet, or fairly quiet,” by the New York press, Carver writes: “New York, Oct. 23.—(I. N. 8.)— Fiorello H. LaGuardia, revered mayor of New York city, has been blowing his bazoo again on the sub- ject of ‘thieving, tinhorn gamblers,’ and his complaint is especially time- ly today since it came in the wake of an accusation by ‘Phog’ Allen, Kansas university basketball coach, that college court teams have thrown games at Madison Square Garden, Gambling in Gotham, it seems, is getting to be revolting. “Gambling in any city is one of the more unusual subjects of con- versation, since, to paraphrase Mark Twain, everyone talks about it but no one does anything about it. Allen came out with the flat state- ment that court teams have taken to the tank for pecuniary consid- eration, and he has backed down, (Mr, Carver is mistaken here. Allen stands by his statements. —Ed.) “The mayor trains his cannon on gambling every second Sunday over a local radio station, causing multi- tudes to weep, but the police force over which he exercises such pa- STUBBLE TROUBLE? ternal control has failed utterly to remedy a situation by even a frac- tion, “New York is open to charges of gambling (as it very well should be) chiefly because of the Broad- way crowd, or part of it. There are men on the main stem whose life and passion is gambling and these reptilian -characters are sometimes influenced by the grip of their art to such an extent they dip their unwashed thumbs in activities over which they seek financial control. “YOU CAN SEE A GREAT MANY OF THEM IN MADISON SQUARE GARDEN ON THE NIGHT OF ANY FAIRLY IM- PORTANT GARDEN SPORTS PROGRAM, DICKERING AND BARGAINING OVER THE ODDS, WHILE A PLATOON OF COPS THIRTY YARDS AWAY HAN- DLES SUCH AN AWESOME PROBLEM AS THE TRAFFIC ON KIGHTH AVENUE. “To get back into the Phog, Allen has implied that New York newspapers and newspapermen haye hidden evidence of crimi- nality connected with baseball games, Something like the New Year eve celebrant who has just been flung by the heels into a bathtub full of broken ginger ale bottles, we feel rather gloomy about this, Our sadness is fur- ther weighted by the fact that Mayor LaGuardia, without mean- ing to, is butting his head against a stone wall. “Tf gambling is to be eliminated in New York (thus wiping out a ma- jor industry and putting untold thousands of needy bookies out of work), the characters who are seri- ously against this pastime ought to get to work, Allen ought to be made to prove his charges or get out of the game which has given him so much, and the mayor, if he could get time off from the work which we all appreciate, would do well to visit the clubhouses of New York tracks and have a detective point out the various people who are not averse to booking bets. After this, of course, the detective eould sign out of the force on a medical discharge and retire with his arm in a sling.” Another most indignant New York basketball writer is Jim Mc- Culley of the New York Daily News, who, over the Chicago Tribune’s leased wires, bristles over the charges of “hush, hush” as voiced by Allen. McCulley begins by saying, “The ‘Voice’ is crying out again in the wilderness of college athletics, ‘The Voice’ in this particular instance is Dr. Forrest C, (Phog) Allen, ““Phog’s’ latest inharmonious note was tooted exclusively, it seems, for the benefit of Jack Carberry, sports editor of THE DENVER POST,” The story then goes on: “In reporting the blast, Carberry said: ‘Allen, in making his charge, alleges that néwspapers, with full knowledge that games have been “thrown” in Madison Square Gar- den haye kept it quiet, or fairly quiet.’ “That, I don’t have to tell you, puts the onus squarely on the New York basketball writers and the papers for which they work, Having covered many basketball games at the Garden in the last couple of years, this writer natur- ally feels chagrined that alleged ‘throwing’ of games has taken place right before his nose with- out being aware of it. Of course, I must admit that the boys wouldn’t take me into their con- fidence if they were about to pull a phony, but, on the other hand, it’s hard to believe that I could ST. JOSEPH AND ST. FRANCIS TAKE PAROCHIAL TILTS Coming thru as expected, St. Joseph’s Bulldogs and St. Francis’ Gremlins remained undefeated atop the Denver Paro- chial league football standings with four-touchdown victories over Annunciation and Cathedral, respectively, Sunday after- noon at Regis stadium before 1,500 fans. The Bulldogs, with the brilliant Johnny Dufficy in the the last one from Dick Appulegiese driver’s seat as usual, thumped the | accounting for the score. best Annunciation team in several St, Joseph was in charge again years by a 33-6 score. The Gremlins |in the second half, driving 69 yards coasted to a 25-0 win over hapless |for a third-period touchdown, with Cathedral, Pfeifer registering from the 11 and Regis’ Reds, also undefeated, had|counted again in the last period the weekend off and remained in a]with a lineup of substitutes. Jim first-place tie on a percentage basis, | Keelan sped 7 yards for this tally altho they have played and won one|and plunged over for the extra less game, point. » St. Joseph needed only three St. Joseph outgained the Car- minutes to get its attack going |dinals, 345 to 104 and outdowned them, 14 to 6. An 80-yard march in the first period sent St. Francis away to a good start against victoryless Cathedral. Paul Walsh and Jim Stromsoe carried the load with Walsh journeying the last 9 yards on a spurt thru right guard. ST, JOSEPH. a ANNUNCIATION, ‘08. No, Name. Name No. e Cotton Mi against Annunciation, pouncing on 2 fumble on the Cardinals’ 29-yard line to set up an early opportunity. Three plays later Dufficy bounced thru the line for a touchdown and passed to Claude Cretzer for the extra point, The Bulldogs kicked off and got the ball again on the Annunciation 22 after a short punt by the Car-|33 dinals. Dufficy and Hal Pfeifer y lugged the porkhide to the 10 before | 2¢ Keelait Dufficy hit Cretzer with a pass into | 25 MON SUE : the end zone. Versatile Johnny then I disappointed the crowd by missing | 4% eet) WARRLHA—-10F . 44 a oe his first extra point of the season | 41 Pfeifer Delorenko on a placekick, spore by nerfods : = i But Dufficy wasn't too much both- Ainietion yn ei 8 06 ered by this miscue and romped 38 eee : ph: Touchdowns, Duttiey yards for a touchdown thru left | #,, Cretzer, bie 1, dim: Keeln tackle in tHe second period and kicked a perfect extra point to bring the score to 20-0. Before the half ended the game Cardinals had their touchdown, They traveled 69 t. Joseph, Hulstrom, ‘ein otigelske Ny 0 R ‘ ; J oe Koach, Salvaucc gren, Stubert, Cooke, i as- an Ramirez, Marquez, yards with three completed passes, | “'e""* Bees ee ee ee MANOS CATHEDRAL, — sit thru two seasons of basket- |%° seltsier pee, whet mame ball at the Garden with such a ae He ‘ids tees Nee thing going on and not smell an | 3% (28s! Bleewarths odor at some time or other. I Sopa know that gambling on basket- | 78 pyer Roberts 45 ball games is tremendous. And it ha akan pracbee 60 is possible that gamblers might |27 Walsh ..! Baker 63 reach some of the players. But, me Stromsoe + Mills 58 in fairness, I must say that even | gS°9,P3.?° 18 G—25 tho the mountain of gambling on _ | Cathedral 00> Scoring—St, Franc Touchdowns, Walsh, the games has sometimes aroused | gintand, Stromsoe: Garled Paine arity my suspicions of crookedness, no fouehiown, Garlands (plunge. Une). wat 4 ubs® utions-—' Jackson, ea evidence to support the suspi- | ing’ 'V. Walsh, Rice, Dyre, Hartford, Car: cions ever showed up. lette, Hughes, Arnold, Sweeney, qley, Cathedral: Giblin, Pohndorf, J . i Evers, Eckelman, Hamilton, Burchar, meron “Mr. Phog Allen owes it to the Hardin, Bannigan, Doyle, Dougherty, D. sport which so long has given him a FORT WARREN LOSES TO SEAHAWKS, 30-0 Iowa City, Ia,, Oct. 23—The Fort Warren Broncos found the manpower and experience of the famed Iowa Seahawks toe much Sunday and suffered a four-touchdown 30-0 defeat before a slim crowd of 8,000 fans in Nebraska stadium. It was the fifth straight triumph for the powerful Seahawks since their opening loss to Michi-,game. Long passes featured these gan, which incidentally was not| Fort Warren threats. suffered by the same officer-bol- Of the four touchdowns given up stered club that whipped the Bron-|by the Broncos, only one resulted cos Sunday but by a squad consist-| from a sustained Seahawk march ing only of cadets. of any length, The lineups: The Broncos stayed within strik- ing distance of the Seahawks thru- out the first half which ended, 14-0, until the Navy team’s manpower began to tell. The winners used thirty-nine players in rolling up their four touchdowns and safety, and took advantage of every break. Fort Warren staved off the inevitable until near the end of the first period when a 43-yard pass from Don Sullivan to Jim Poole set up a l-yard scoring plunge by Bob Samuels, Earlier in the period Fort Warren gave the Seahawks a scare by driving to the Iowa 26-yard line before the attack sputtered, In the second period Fort Warren was put in the hole when Bob Smith sent a punt out of bounds-on the Bronco 3-yard line. This set the stage for another Seahawk touchdown that made the count 14-0 at the half, A .pair of breaks accounted for all the Seahawk scoring in the last half, The first of these breaks in the third quarter cost the Broncos 9 points. It was a blocked punt which rolled out of the end zone for a safety. Fort Warren kicked off from its 20-yard line following the safety and Smith returned the ball 72 yards for a touchdown which was followed by a successful extra point. Fort Warren refused to give up and a desperation pass in the fourth period gave the Sea- hawks their last touchdown. Kenny Jastrow attempted the toss deep in his own territory and J. B. McDonald swiped it and loped 28 yards to score, Roger Stephens, former Univer- sity of Iowa star, led the Fort War- ren attack which threatened several times in the early moments of the SEAHAW Phillips tin: Schleich Olens Kapter ae Hans Strohmeyer ae Callen Pin Kosich Ww. ye onetsk Harvath Brecuiner Naylor . ae Sullivan Jastrow Samuel » Stephens Mertes SOUS Seori rel, Taylor, (foi € naa (tor ene points ‘atter | touchdown, Schleich arron (for Sullivan) s safety i ens: Attendance, 8,000 (estimated), The Southwest Conference CONFERENCE TARO . Team— vb oA 60 1 0 0 DOnat ns! On: Southern. Methodint o1e8®6 Texas A, & a0 0. iy ASON STAND “amy mew C ‘Christian see Southern Arkansas . ua WEEK’S RESULTS. Texas ‘kan Texas Christian 13,1 ‘exas A, & M, %, Rice 21, Southern Methouist 10, THIS WEEK’S SCHEDULE, Saturday—Texas Christian vs. Oklahome City at Oklahoma City (night); Texas A. & M. vs. North; Texas Agricultural Collece at College Station, Texas vs, Rice at House ton; Southern Methodist ys, Tulane at New Orleans; Arkansas ys. Mississippi at Memphis, LEADING Boon ens Player— TD, PAT. FG, TP. Paul Yates, A. & M., tb... 7 o 8 42 Geo, Walmsley, Rice, hb 4 9 9 24 Bobby Layne, Texas, hb., 3 z 3 aL Norman Co: ©, U., fb 3 eS J, Powers, 8. M. U., hb. ie 9 1 L, Anderson, Texas, hb.. 2 © © 12 Hubert Bechtol, Texas,e. 2 0 0 12 Bill Scruggs, Rice, hb 2 ° ° 12 G, Spires, A, & M. 2 8 9 12 Bob Smith, Ri 2 9 0 12 erle Gibson, T 2 9 9 12 I, Cunn’gham, 2 90 3 12 R. Rogers, T. ©, U z 0 12 B, Folsom, 8. M, 2 6 6 13 livelihood to reveal all the facts, if he knows all the facts. “I won’t argue one way or another at this time about Allen’s sugges- tion that college athletes need a ‘big stick’ such as Judge Landis holds over baseball. Maybe it does and maybe it doesn’t. And I don’t say that Allen’s intentions are any- thing but the best and well meant. “T will say, however, that Allen’s eharge of alleged ‘throwing’ of games in the Garden and a ‘hushed up’ scandal which some newspapers are supposed to be keeping quiet is a serious one which casts a shadow of dishonesty not only over all the players who have been performing in the Garden, but upon the news- papermen who have been covering the events as well. “And having been one of those newspapermen, I think Mr. Phog Allen, if he has been quoted cor- rectly, has a lot of nerve. If he knows as much as he indicates he knows, then he should quit beating around the bush and name names, “Names make news, Mr. Allen, or haven’t you heard?” Allen, according to news associa- tion stories out of Lawrence, Kan., did “name names” in a telegraph to Irish, which the news services stat- ed was dispatched Saturday. Sam Smith, United Press Kansas City sports editor, stated he saw this message. Allen, in a telegram to THE DENVER POST, stated he had supplied Irish with the request- ed information relative to names and that its release for publication was in Irish’s hands. Shuffleboard was played as ear- ly as the fifteenth sie contury. Soothes Chafing, Heat Rash, Insect Bites, Relieyes Itching Skin, Feet and Loose Dandruff, Sold on @ money back Guarantee. 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