MISSOURI VALLEY CONFERENCE BASKETBALL COACHES Henry P, Iba, Oklahoma A, & M, College, Stillwater, Okla, yk J, C, Truesdale, Grinnell College, Grinnell, Iowa, Hudson Hellmich, Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. q 4 agar S, Hickey, Creighton University, Omaha, Nebraska, Zz : oe fe-—Evan 0, Williams, Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa. Chet Benefiel, Tulsa University, Tulsa, Okla. EE Dee tienen, Washburn College, Topeka, Kansas. —_ A ee Host of the couches howe written in seying they prefer to meot at 9 o'cleck on Seturdsy morning, Decexber 4. Ascordingly, we shall plan on this how, The afternoon meeting will be at 2 o*elock. | Shaiyman, Basketball inles Connittee af) (ee 7, October 20, 1987, My, George Veenker, — Athletic Director, Iowa State College, Ames, Towa, | Dear George’ I am sorry that I missed you when you were here last Saturday, We had as out of town guests parents of some of the students here at the University, end my time was so taken wu in entertaining them thet I dia not get a: to see you, They stayed for dinner, and by the time I got to the hotel you had gone. ntorpratastons unpting sieheyon a tittle Rerhe interpretations mee with you a little P in addition to euving “Bevts" : We plan to have our Big Six Inter- pretations meeting on Saturday, December ¢, at ® o'clock in the morning, end at 11 o'eloele to have a joint meeting with the Missouri Valley _ coaches, At 12 o'slock we had planned to have a showing of a movie talkie on basketball which was made this past summer by Wilson Company, Converse, Clair Bee, of Long Island University, Dr, Carlson of Pittebur Dave McoMilian of Minne- sote, George Koegan of | tre Dame, John Bunn of — Stanford, and I shot quite an exhaustive reel of talkies, asing the Phillips "66" players as demone stration players, 5 : I believe that this picture, if it is as good as the people whe snot it say it is, eee draw quite a gallery of officials and e0acnes. We plan to run the picture from 12 to 1:30, and then at 2 o'clock the meeting of the rules committee would take place, If this meets with your approval we will go ahead and put out some invitations and publicity from this end of the line, I bee lieve we will have a very good set-up. Are you expecting to write all the officials who are to work the basketball games in the Big Six, urging _ them to be present at the interpretations meeting? | dust. off the record, my opinion is that if you would have Mr, Kischer operating your | stop and go outfit that Iowa State would have been & very much more formidable opponent than it was without the services of your star quarter- baek and general, : | 7 Sincerely. yours, PCA3AH ie Director of Physical Education, | irman, 5th District Basketball Rules Committee, THE UNIVERSITY OF NEBRASKA LINCOLN DEPARTMENT OF INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR October 21, 1937 Dr. Forrest ©. Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Dr. Allen: I just received your letter of October 19th and thought I had better reply at once as I am leaving today to scout the Pittsburgh Panthers back east. I think it’ would be fine to':have a meeting with the Missouri Valley basketball group and I hope you are successful in securing a unanimous agreement for this meeting. The whole program as you have out- lined in your letter certainly appeals to me as being: one of the finest we Gould have at this time of year and in a short period of time. _ By all means try to arrange to have the basketball film for the coaches and officials to see. I have heard a great deal about this film and your contribution to it. I am sure everyone present will enjoy the privilege of seeing this latest production at that.time. | I not only have no objection to the setup you propose, but would like to add a word of encourage- ment for you in your efforts to put tf over. ificerely yours, Ww: HE. Browne Basketball Coach WHB: BLB KANSAS STATE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND APPLIED SCIENCE DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND ATHLETICS MANHATTAN, KANSAS t October 21, 1937 Mr. Forrest 0. Ailen Chairman, Fifth District Basketball Rules Committee University of Kensas Lewrence, Kansa ta Dear lir. Allen: I heartily approve of the:program suggested in your let- JG ter of October 19. 1 will cooperate any way that you may advise I @ Sincerely yours, Coach of Basketball xk Ex) UNIVERSITY We SAINT LOUIS WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND ATHLETICS October 22 ; 1.987 ir. 2@oerrest C. Allen Chairman, Fifth District, Basketball Rules Committee, Dear "Phog.*: I, for one, am very much in favor of a joint meeting between the coaches of the Big Six and Missouri Valley Con- ference on Saturday December 4, at 11:00 o'clock. Also I will be very interested in seeing the movie talkie on basket- ball as I do not believe I have ever had the privilige of see- ing this particular one. I hope that such a program as you outlined can be realized and you can count on me. With kindest personal regards I am, Sincerely yours, bai, Hudson A. Hellmich, = Basketball Coach HAR: SS October 25, 1937. lip, Lb, E, Menze Basketball Coach, Towa State College, Ames, lowa, — Dear Louie: “hank you for your good letter of the. Zist instant concerning the program, am very happy to have your suggestion, I believe at the last meeting of the Big Six coaches, Louie, you coaches selected a chairman and secretary to carry on the Big Six interpretations, did you not? I would like to suggest that the same officials continue in charge of the Big Six meeting, I was then Director of Athletics at Kansas, and the feeling was that my time was divided between the directors and coaches meetings, anc for that reason I believe thet you people selected your personnel, If you will give me the names of those individuals I will write them and suggest the same be con- tinued through this meeting. Now here is my dilemaa regarding the open meeting, I have always viewe@ltit as a meeting for many beginners, both officials and coaches, and unless we go over the wholes field of interpretations we are apt to overlook some of the uninitiated, I agree with you that it is somewhat tiresome and painful to 80 over this stuff that we have known for 20 years or more, But I am wondering if we are. fulfilling the mission of an interpre= tations meeting when we fail to take in some points whieh we consider trivial, 4s we see the type of officiating that we do sco from week to week should not we go over some very fundamental rules interpretations to help fellows that spend less tims on them than wo do? I, for one, certainly do agree thet your suggestion is well taken in that it will stimulate me to greater endeavor in getting the tiresome — aA ele points eliminated, but at the same time I feel there are some things wo might neglect unless we recognize the little fellow, | . I will certainly be happy to see you at the Kansas City meeting, and I am glad that you like the general seteup. If trust that we can make the meeting most interesting. | ‘i ae ly pegards to your fine familly, Sincerely yours, FOAsAH Direetor of Physical Baucation, IOWA STATE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND MECHANIC ARTS AMES, IOWA DEPARTMENT Sau” EDUCATION 0 c + ob er 9 1 ; 1 9 Bm Dr. Forrest C. Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Doe: Your letter of October 19th sounds good to me and I am for the program as you have it outlined. If you will permit a suggestion I believe that we could get through our closed interpretation meeting and also the open one much faster if you can, in some way, have an outline of what we are to cover in the way of rules. With best wishes, I am Singergly, ams he » Menze LEM: JH { Bas oS gee Coach \ \ \ \ October 25, 1937, Coach George Edwards, University of Missouri, Columbia, Mo, Dear George: He I note that you will have 2 game in Columbia on the night of our interpreta- tion meeting, so we will see that you are free to leave at any time that you see fit, | Thank you for calling my attention to this matter, | Very sineere ly yours, Chairman, 5th District PGAsAH Basketbatt Rules Comittee. cOLUMBIA Legg mn October 25, 1937. My, Frank Bangs Salina, Kansas. Dear FPrank3s We have finally set up our Saturday program on Yecewber 4 for the interpretations ' meeting. We expect to have a closed meeting of our conference starting at 9 &,m,, and then at 11 ofelock we will have a joint meeting with bho Missouri Valley Conference and the Big Six, At 12 o'clock we expect to show the pictures, if you will be good enough to show them. We are putting that on from 12 to 1:50 PeM%,, and our open meeting starts at 2 p.m, Tf would like a confirmation of this so thet we may advertise this very definitely se the coaches and officials may see it. I have: written our own Sig Six coaches and they are all very enthusiastic about seeing the fllm. Goach Harold Brown, of the University of Nebraska, wrote mo the following: "By all means try to arrange to have the basketball film for the coaches and officials to see, TI have heard a great deal about this film and your contribution to it, I am sure everyone present will enjoy the privilege of seeing this latest production at that time, "I not only have no objection to the setup you propose, but would like to add a word of oe for you in your efforts to put over. As soon as I have heard from you cone firming this I will get out a letter to each 2 mh coach in our district of Missourd Kanse@s, Oklahoma, and adjacent states, $e the officials we should have a very large gallery present. | ZI am expect to go to Kansas City this week end and wit view the film et Calvin's Thursday afternoon, I am also exe geoting to be present at Topeka at 2 peti, On oveniber 7 at Mr, Thomas’ office, : Wath every good wish, I am Very cordially yours, Director of Physical Bdueation. Chairman, Sth District Rules | Committee, . ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION [INCORPORATED] Oklahoma Agricultural and Mechanical College STILLWATER, OKLAHOMA October 27, 1937 Dr. F, C. Allen, Chairman, 5th District Basketball Rules Committee, University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansas. Dear Phog: I want to thank you for the bulletin regarding the basketball rules meeting in Kansas City, December 4. The basketball coaches in our Conference have their interpretation meeting Saturday morning about the same time as your Conference. I am sure they will want to meet with the Big Six in a meeting after our meeting, as we interchange games with the Big Six Conference. I am sure that I would want to see the basketball picture that you are going to have in Kansas City. I think it is mighty fine that it will be possible to have the picture there during the meeting. Looking forward to seeing you in Kansas City, I am oo OL a. P, A HPI:1 Dir. of Athletics. Che University of Oklahoma Norman, Oklahoma INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS Oct. 27, 1937 Dr. F. ¢. Allen Director of Physical Education University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: The time of meeting is entirely alright with me, and I would like to see the film made by Chuck Taylor & Company. This sehedule makes the day pretty full but I suppose we could stand that for one day at least. With best regards, I am Sincerely yours, H. V. McDermott HVMc/sl _ October 27, 1937. My, George Veenker, Towa State College, Dear George: ) Have you definitely made arrangements to meet at the Hotel Kansas Citian? Before I send the notices to the basketball coaches of the F4afth — Distriet I want to be sure of the meeting place, 3 Just a friendly tip. I understand some of the officials are confused over our baskete- ball sehedule, One of the officials said to me that he got an announcement of the basketball schedule showing Nebraska and Kansas State, I think, playing three games at Manhattan and none at Lincoln, Bill you kindly send me the corrected Big Six basketball schedule for the coming seme te together with a list of officials? JI will appreciate your cooperation, With all good wishes, I am Sincerely yours, Chairman, Sth District, | FCA:AH Basketball Rules Committee, IOWA STATE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND MECHANIC ARTS AMES, IOWA DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICAL EDUCATION October 25, 1937 Dr. Forrest C. Allen Director of Physical Education The University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Phog: Thank you for your letter of October 20th; I will send out a notice of the interpretations meeting to all the Big Six basketball officials. With all good wishes, I remain THE CREIGHTON UNIVERSITY DEPARTMENT OF ATHLETICS OMAHA, NEBRASKA &. s. nen November 4, 1937 BUSINESS MANAGER Mr. Forrest C. Allen Chairman Fifth District Basketball Rules Committee Kansas University Lawrence, Kansas Dear Mr. Allen: This will acknowledge your letter of October 15 and invitation of the Big Six to participate in a joint meeting at Kansas City, December 4, 1957. It is a splendid idea and I am sure that all the coaches of our group will be most happy to attend. You may count on me and I surely want to see the basket- ball film. Thanks for your invitation and interest in the meeting. Cordially yours, Basketball Coach os ESH: BP UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS LAWRENCE DIVISION OF PHYSICAL EDUCATION AND INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS November 6, 19376 Dear Fellow Coaches and Officials: The annual Rules Interpretation meeting of the National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada, Fifth District of the N.C.A.A., will be held at the Hotel Kansas Citian, on December 4th. We trust that you can be present for the meeting. : The open meeting is scheduled to start at 2 pam. The Big Six coaches will meet in their own closed session from 9 to 11 a&em. The same schedule will be maintained by the coaches of the Missouri Valley Conference. A joint meeting of the two conference coaches for uniformity of interpretation will be held from 1l a.m. to 12 nm. So as to conform with the coaches mooting and at the same time to provide some instructive and informative ontertainment, a basketball movie talkie will be shown to all coaches and officials, no players admitted, from 12 to 1:30 peme This picture was show last summor and it shows the basket- ball styles of Dave McMillan, of Minnosota; Dr. H. C. Carlson, of Pitts- burgh; Clair Bee, of Long Island; George Keogan, of Notre Dame; John Bunn, of Stanford; and the writer. Chuck Taylor, of the Converse Com- pany, directed the picture. The Phillips "66" team was used as the demonstration team for all of the coaches to show their style. All who have seen the picture pronounce it an excellent portrayal of different styles of basketball. I trust that you will be present to lend your personality in making this open meeting one of the most onjoyable and profitable yet held. \chairhan, th District ising Statos of Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma ) N.CeAsAe Basketball Rules Committee. Very spt yours, \ \ = a ‘ P.S. Some of you coaches far from Kanses City might get togcther and make the trip in one car. We bolieve the mooting will be worth whilo. DIVISION OF POLICE DIVISION OF FIRE CiTYy OF DES MOINES DEPARTMENT PUBLIC SAFETY ABOU DIVISION OF INSPECTION Des Moines, Iowae November 8, 1957. Forrest C. Allen, Coach University of Kansas, Lawrence, Kansase Dear Mr. Allens .I received your letter in regard to the 15th District Meeting of the Ne C. A. A. in Kansas City, Missouri December 4the I am going to be there if possible and wish to thank you for the invitation. Vroveh Yours very truly, HHsDS © i Henry Hasbrouck. } BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATION MEETING Hotel Kansas Citian, Dece 4 Items for discussion: Uniformity in lighting basketball courts te Big Six Scorekeeper asking referee when he is confused as to whether a goal was made or not Vulcanized basketball. SCHEDULE 9 @eMe = Big Six coaches 11 aeme ~- Joint meeting with Missouri Valley coaches 12 to 1:30 = Basketball movie for coaches and officials 2 PeMe — Open meeting ‘Coach Louis E. Mensze, Iowa State College, AMCS LOWae Dear Louie: I beg to acknowledge receipt of your kind letter of the 7th instant, in which you enclose the basketball interpretations of the Big Sixes There is only one thing that I might mentions I thought our motion was to the effect that we endorsed the BaskeowLite goals for the Big Six. Just a little difference in wording, however's But you are dead right in regard to the ception that if any school does not care to use goals the home team would install regular goals that team is playing there. I thought it was put such a way that the home team would do as the coach of the visiting team askede ~ Aside from a typographical error in the ee eee , Very sincerely yours, IOWA STATE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AND MECHANIC ARTS AMES, IOWA DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICAL EDUCATION FOR MEN December 7, 1937 Dr. F. Ce Allen Basketball Coach University of Kansas Lawrence, Kansas Dear Doc: I am enclosing our interpretations of Saturday's meeting. Will you please check these over and let me know if they are in accordance with your ideas. I shall wait until I hear from you before sending out copies to officials and coaches. | sinc 9) yours, Loe 7 prea »E. Menze asketball Coach 3, 1938. January Sincerely yours, tions | of Physical Educa’ Director