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THURSDAY, OCTOBER 6, 2005
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Time to leave the nest Hawk purveyors
After 17 alcohol-related violations in two and a half years, the Hawk may finally have to disrupt the social lives of many KU students by closing its doors to the city of Lawrence.
Wow, that would be the day. What's going to happen to this town when all of those people who have continuously relied upon The Hawk for their nights of drunken merriment and stimulating conversations with the same faces weekend after weekend have to find some other place to party?
It is surprising that a bar with so many violations has managed to remain open as long as it has. With all of the bars in Lawrence, why does this one seem to have such a problem with underage drinking?
To answer this question, I am reminded of my early days at the University. When I moved to Lawrence my freshman year, I was told by several people that The Hawk was the place to go for those who were under 21, and that half of the people in the bar were under 21, so I wouldn't be out-numbered.
Low and behold, my first experience at The Hawk was just as I expected.
As soon as I knew it was that easy to get inside, it became my favorite bar — or rather, the only bar in Lawrence that I knew I could get into.
MEGAN LOGUE
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Keep in mind that this was when I was a freshman; my opinion of The Hawk has changed quite a bit in the last few years, the most recent of which I have actually been legal.
If The Hawk is forced to close, what is Lawrence really losing? Just for fun, let's go through a typical weekend night at The Hawk in order to honestly evaluate it as a drinking establishment.
First, unless you plan on getting there before 9 p.m., you'll be waiting in line anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes.
Then, once you've made it through the line, you have to have your ID recorded and, if you're under 21, you hope the door men have kindly allowed you to enter. Finally, you must pay a $2 to $5 cover, depending on the night of the week, and you're home free. By now you might be thinking "Wow, look at all of these people."
Of course the place is packed, and you must somehow get to the bar and order a drink before it is last call. This can be a challenge, as some of you well know.
Once you have your drink, it's time for some heavy, intellectual socializing and your attempt to make your way through the herd as you migrate from level to level.
Usually, by the end of the night, whether you decide to shake it on the dance floor or opt for a mellow evening on the back patio, you will most likely leave the bar sweaty, with filthy jeans and shoes.
Hmmm, sounds like a damn good time to me.
I feel compelled to give The Hawk some credit, because in small doses, it can be fun every now and again. But so can a lot of other bars.
For those who obsessively go, week after week, and sadly, year after year, it is you who will suffer the most if this bar closes, because your second home has finally fallen prey to the law.
Looks like you will have to branch out and force yourself to experience the other bars in this town. So, to all of you "Hawk groupies," just ask yourself one question: How many of those 17 "alcohol-related" violations have you or one of your friends been involved in?
To you fine young men and women, I'm sure The Hawk thanks you.
Logue is an Overland Park senior in journalism.
Gross makes major miscalculations
It is not now, nor has it ever been the position of Lawrence Counter-Recruitment (LCR) that Saddam Hussein was a legitimate or humane ruler. Nor is it the position of LCR that the United States went to war to liberate the Iraqi people from twnanny.
Major Joseph Gross would justify an illegal and unjust war with emotional arguments about Hussein's despotic regime, using allegations of rape and other tortures to mask the deeper causes of this war.
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their own lives. This is a right the U.S. ignores or tramples regularly.
The American government has supported numerous dictators with no thought to their human rights record, including Saddam Hussein who received financial aid and arms from the U.S. government to conduct a war in Iran.
We use depleted uranium in ammunition, poisoning our own soldiers. Is this humane? Does the brutality of Hussein's regime justify our own? LCR would like to invite Major Gross to debate these issues in an open forum. We ask him to join us for a panel discussion at at 7 p.m. on Oct. 27 in the Kansas Union.
It is neither the place nor the right of our government to install or remove leaders at will. It is the right of all people to determine
When the US ended support of Hussein, it imposed sanctions that killed 1.5 million Iraqi civilians according to UNICEF, more than Major Gross claims Hussein killed in his tenure. The "humane" wars the U.S. has conducted in Iraq and Afghanistan have included civilian casualties, torture — documented most recently by Human Rights
Watch and including beatings, withheld food and extended sleep deprivation — and the destruction of homes, towns, cities and infrastructures.
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Tradition is never an excuse for disrespect
People, sports fans or otherwise, shouldn't have a problem with not playing against a team for a few years in order to achieve greater equality. It's heartbreaking that it was even suggested we ignore injustice in order for the fans to watch a match-up between Illinois and Kansas.
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50 years from now, a basketball game will mean nothing, but equality will still be everything.
Monday morning, Joel Simone wrote a huge article on how Native American mascots weren't offensive or insulting. Hello? We live in a country that tries to not be racist.
Nothing is set in stone yet, and it is up to the Athletics Department to decide whether we'll play teams with banned mascots.
As a last note, we in Student Senate chose to acclimate the proposal, meaning that we passed it unanimously and without contention.
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It was made pretty clear that Joel, as a sports fan, was not concerned with how Native Americans view these school mascots.
I would therefore hazard a guess that Joel is much more in the minority than he realizes.
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He said that, "the argument made by some Native Americans does not hold water," and that "a few people can ruin things for the majority."
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small sacrifice for respect.
Well, news flash: We live in a country that embraces the minority viewpoint, and to insinuate that the feelings of Native Americans don't matter is insulting.
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Generally speaking, people in this country don't tolerate things that are offensive and degrading. Sports shouldn't be any different.
If we want to live in a truly loving and understanding society, we need to be flexible. I find a mascot change to be a
The Indian mascots chosen by schools such as Florida State likely weren't selected out of prejudice (as Joel pointed out), but the fact remains that these mascots present an often one-sided view of Native Americans as warriors or savages.
Also, the half-time traditions of some schools show ceremonies or rituals that are dear to the hearts of many Native Americans. I don't find their frustration unwarranted.
Sports should never take precedence over compassion; just because a university has always had a Native American mascot doesn't mean it should continue.
If a team were to bring out
And I see no difference between the two. If an entire group of people feels disrespected and mistreated, then we are obviously doing something wrong.
Tradition has always, and should always, be sacrificed for acceptance, whether it was women's suffrage or abolition of slavery.
RYAN MULVENON opinion@kansan.com
a mascot called "the Faggot," and have him shop and get manicures during halftime, I, as a gay man, would be incredibly offended.
- Mulvenon is an Olathe freshmen in art history.
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You know, if I was ever assaulted by thugs, I would stick my fingers up the leader's nose, because he wouldn't know what to do.
Just my luck, Free for All gave me an STD.
So if you saw a fat girl on Wescoe, would she be a Wescoe beached whale?
Is it just me, or are Kappa Deltas the hottest sorority girls on campus.
Will all the people who hate on greeks quite being mad because they couldn't even get a bid from the TKEs. Just shut your mouth.
The North Templin Liberation Front will liberate the Free for all within the week. Expect it.
I think someone out there got their Greek facts wrong, because Sigma Nu didn't eventually pick Kappa Delta, it was the other way around.
Sung to the tune of the William Tell Overture:
I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk,
I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk,
I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk, I'm drunk.
I want to complain about the Pizza Hut delivery service, but I can't keep it under 20 seconds.
Hey, Mike.
Can I get a large cola?
Hey, Mike
Thank God for Priscilla's DVD sale right now.
How do I bum a cigarette off the bus driver without sounding rude?
Why is the bully on Lizzie McGuire always black?
You need to know that Safe Ride does not go to McDonald's.
So, I'm pretty sure it's my birthday, and the guy I like brought his girlfriend to my party, my friend is transferring, and I just got an M.I.P. with my best friend.
Free Patty and Michelle!
Marco
I'm at the Jet Lag, and some guy just pissed in the trash can. If you remember that in the morning, you're my hero.
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What'd the leper say to the prostitute? Keep the tip.
This is splendid! This calls for a sexy party!
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Wolf-man is in Kansas City, looking for a job
Editors' note: How the mighty have fallen.
How come none of the comments about marching band are getting published?
Kansas having an awesome, competitive football team year in and year out would benefit the University way more than the stupid pathway to the stadium.
I think that the vandalism article on Tuesday just shows how ignorant our campus is. It seems like the person who wrote the article was just a little too eager to use the n-word.
I want the two cars who are following me in the parking lot to fight to the death for my spot.
Here is an uncomfortable equation for you. How the heck are you going to publish only half an article on the Mallott incident. I say you republish it, but that's just my opinion. Editor's note: The article was published in its entirety, but when it jumped to the next page, it said "Israel."
The jerk that supposedly quoted Bill Bennett is the liar of the century. Editor's note: We checked the quote. Bill Bennett said it.
Could you be a little bit more quiet?
If Rhombus House teaches us anything, it's that nobody can bitch like a frat boy.
Steven Levy has the only funny cartoon in the Kansan.
Steven Levy should be paid more.
I totally shacked at the Rhombus House,
and it was the greatest night of my life.
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I skipped biology to give blood. We were talking about blood, too. I think I should get extra credit.
The Free for All is so this year's crossword puzzle.
Michelle Goodrick is my hero. She could kick Sara Garlick's ass.
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Diamonds. That'll shut her up
Grilled cheese and tomato soup is the greatest combination of food ever put on this earth. Why can't Mrs. Es understand that?
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