Thursday, February 12, 1976
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Age hinders some from drinking
By JAY BEMIS
Staff Writer
Underage people trying to get into Lawrence clubs and bars aren't always successful, local owners and managers report.
John Wooden, owner of the Wagon Wheel Cafe, said yesterday that such persons were on nights on nights of high school football basketball games or district tournaments.
He said that although a doorman checked identifications on Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays, the Wheel's busiest nights, and when trying to buy beer on opright nights.
He said it was obvious which people were underage.
When asked whether catching anperson hurt his business, Woodland said, "If it was my business, I wouldn't."
"Sometimes they'd come in and ask for pitchers, and we don't even sell pitchers," he said.
SKIP COUNDS, manager of the Jayhawk Cafe, said his tavern checked anyone questionable. A doorman is needed on site to verify identification of an operation to check identifications so yurt
He said those without identification were asked to leave immediately.
Rolfs vetoes hockey bill
"They usually do leave right away because they're fairly embarrassed," he said.
Ed Rolfs, student body president,
yesterday vetoed a bill that would have
allocated $3.861 to the KU Ice Hockey Club,
and the veto was referred to StudEx.
The bill was passed Feb. 5 by the Student
Senate.
Rfals said he would recommend that StudEx allocate $1,000 to the club. He said he couldn't justify giving the club $3,861. The university received only $1,543 from the Senate.
Rufs said that $1,075 of the allocation would have gone for traveling and subsistence expenses, and that this was in agreement with Senate budgeting philosophies.
"IN MY FOUR years in the Senate, I can never recall allocating funds for suburban schools or student organizations. My feeling is that if the Senate provides a substantial percentage of the total costs, the participants will incur some personal expenses." he said.
Rofs said the Senate wasn't acting responsibly when it passed the allocation. The Kansas University Athletic Corporation ticket subsidy debate earlier in the meeting was cut off before a roll call after the allocation passed showed that the Senate didn't have a guorum.
Tom Hansen, Overland Park sophomore and president of the club, said each member of the club had already spent at least $200 to cover club expenses.
"THEER SEEMED to be a Barnum and Bailey atmosphere at the meeting that did not lend itself to responsible and deliberate action." Rolfs said.
Hansen said Rolfs' veto may hurt Lawrence's chances to get an ice skating rink. An investor had been waiting to see whether the club would get local support before proceeding with plans for a $1.5 million skating facility, he said.
Coons said the Hawk tried to be firm in making persons leave, but not so firm that the persons wouldn't back when they finally turned 18.
There is a tradition of persons from Topeka and Kansas City trying to sneak into the Hawk, Coons said, especially when a player from Kansas City plays football or basketball in Lawrence.
ITS EASY to speak into the Hawk on college students. A large number of college customers, he said.
"On a Friday, we probably catch five to 10 persons," he said. "Some might not have I.D.'s and be legitimate, but they have to go home and get one."
Coors said fake identifications were usually "very obvious or very good."
"If it looks like one (fake I.D.)," he said, "we usually call the police and let them handle it. Probably just a small percentage of them are fake, though."
Don Ticknor, manager of Ichabod's Inc., said when he shrank an unearned person, he just asked them to leave without moralizing to them.
"I'll just tell them, 'Nice try, but I can't do that for you,'" he said.
Jerry Gilmore, manager of Herbie's Tavern, said he usually spot-capped for L.D.'s using his own discretion. A lot of people who are regular customers at Herbie's usually know which persons are underage, he said.
"CRACKING DOWN (on underage persons) is for the authorities," he said. "My only job is to try to prevent them from drinking."
Glimore said it wouldn't be the tavern's problem if someone presented to false I.D. A. Glimore said it wouldn't be the tavern's problem if someone presented to false I.D. A.
“It’s their fault if the police raid the place or something,” he said.
Private clubs have similar problems.
Luke Kieltyka Jr., manager of the Carriage Lamp, said checks depended on who the person was. The Carriage Lamp is a supper lamp. Children are admitted with their parents.
"IF A GRADUATE student brought in a chick under 21, neither of them could stay," he said. "He might buy one drink, slide it across the table, and then buv her one."
Kieltyke said that, in his seven years of managing the club, he had two major raids by police. One might have been set up, be said, and the other was a routine check.
In the alleged set up, Kieltyka said,
"a detective came into the club and went to a
bathroom."
"He then told me I was serving a girl who wasn't 12 and we had a discussion," he said. "We talked about the future."
KERRI KEPLINGER, an employee at the Sanctuary, a doaerman was used on Fridays and Saturday to be sure I.D.'s and membership cards had the same name.
(Alcoholic Beverage Control) in Topeka, he haven't heard anything from them, though, because he couldn't prove that the girl was drinking."
Usually, people turned away are from Lawrence, she said, and many customers from the Stables, a bar downstairs, try to get into the Sanctuary.
"We tell them they have to leave and can't even sit here, because they'll just have somebody else buy their drinks for them," she said.
Keplinger said that one time a stranger gave her an I.D. and a membership card with the same name, but she knew the person whose name was on them.
The Eldridge House checks primarily for membership, because member must be 21
to have a card, according to Doug Ninow,
club manager. Checking the identification
is mainly up to the discretion of whoever is
working, he said.
The Flamingo Club was also interviewed, but to comment on its identification procedure,
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Schooners are coming to the Hawk Monday, Feb. 16
Minority Affairs Subcommittee Announces Openings on Two College Advisory Boards
1) State College Coordination Council. One minority representative is needed immediately to serve on this board composed of members of the Board of Regents, faculty, Senate presidents, government president, and other members of the Board. February 14th (Saturday). An interview will be required on February 16.
2) Minority Affairs Advisory Board. Three or four minority students are needed to serve on this important University board which deals with all aspects of minority affairs at the University. Students will be selected on the basis of their application. Deadline is February 16.
Paid for by Student Activity Fees
Applications may be picked up at the Student Senate office, Room 105 B on Level 3 of the Kansas Union. Submit completed applications to the same.
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