University Daily Kansan Tuesday, December 2. 1975 2 Refunds foil steel bandits By ANNE SIGMAN Staff Writer When a student wants a snack, cigarettes or a soft drink, he can go to one of 185 vending machines on campus. But the money and doesn't deliver the product. If a student loses money in a machine, he can get a refund, Forrest Jolly, vending manager at the University of Kansas, said last week. Jolly said maintenance men often found that a bent coin or a soft drink tab prevented the machine from operating correctly. Once in a while, he said, the machines do "MACHINES ONLY WORK about 85 per cent of the time." Jolly said. Pearl Grant, manager of Wescoe Terrace, said that the cafeteria had quite a bit of trouble with its vending machines. The money gets jammed in the machines, she said, or the button is pushed too soon and people sometimes put in nickels instead of quarters for soft drinks. The nickel is returned when a quarter is put in, she said. One student she didn't have much trouble with soft drink vending machines because soft drinks now cost a quarter and longer worried about getting change back ANOTHER STUDENT SAID that the older vending machines worked better. Dan Abbott, St. Louis junior, said that the old vending machines were marred and dented that it worked well. "The new one rips you off if you put the money in and push the button too quickly," Beth Anderson, Great Bend junior, said she usually didn't have trouble with the vending machines she used in Blake Hall. But yesterday, she said, she wanted a Coke and got a Sprite. Anderson said she drank the Sprite anyway. Jolly said the machines were loaded with extra soft drinks in the wrong section so that there would be chilled cans ready when the machine was filled the next day. Sometimes it wasn't, and the machine shook soon enough, he said, and the machine starts delivering the wrong soft drink. FOUR FULLTIME and four part-time workers refill machines, he said. He said that machines were serviced daily during the week and that residence hall machines were serviced weekly. Students who lose money can fill out a yellow slip stating how much money they lost, in what machine, and how it was lost. Sometimes students fail to put their names and addresses on the slips, Jelly said, and he did not explain that when his office kept the slips on file and that if a student called it tried to find the slip and return the money. He said the office didn't refund money to students who used profanity in their explanation. THE SLIPS THAT HAVE profanity are also kept on file, Jolly said, and if the student calls he can get his money back. He had been given a job that requires use profanity his office wanted to know why. Despite the fact that machines don't work, Jolly said, there is little vandalism. There is some vandalism in residence bells. Jolly said, but compared to other town bells, they were a bit more unscrupulous. "Three or four years ago it was every place on campus," he said. Money to pay for repair of vandalism in residence halls comes out of the hall library fund, he said, which is an expense to the students. Jolly said his office tried to turn problems over to the governing body of the residence hall. IN A CASE OF MALICIOUS vandalism, where someone breaks into the machine to take the money, he said, the vending operation takes responsibility. All arrests for stealing money from vendoring machines have involved students so far, Jolly said. A program is being set up with the residence halls to discuss voting machine problems, Jolly said. He said most of KU's votes werelections done in the audience halls. David Barclay, president of McColum Hall, said that the program hadn't gotten under way because there hadn't been enough problems to make it necessary. Barclay said that if a machine didn't work, the hall called the vending operation office and the machine was fixed immediately. BARCLAY SAID HE HOPED to have JACKSON SAID ROLF'S WAS part of a statute-created body, the Student Advisory Board that consists of the student body presidents from the six Regents' institutions, and that the matter should be presented to that board so it could decide whether to present the question to Schneider for consideration. From page one Rolfs objects . . . "The Student Advisory Board would be in a good legal position to seek an opinion from the attorney general on such matters," he said, Jackson, a lawyer, he thought any request from the board to Schneider for an opinion would be honored. Rolfs said he planned to discuss the matter at the board's Dec. 14 meeting. "I'm not going to make a formal presentation or anything," he said. JACKSON SAID HE appreciated the fact that the attorney general's office has expert familiar with the ramifications of the matter, but that a request such as Rolfs encroached on the purview of lawyers who are by private individuals to give opinions. Regent Walter Hiersteiner said he thought Schneider would take an identical position if he received a request from the Student Advisor Board. AURH work with Joly to develop clear-cut channels of communication with him. "However, I don't want to shoot from the hip," Hersteister said. "I would be uncomfortable commenting on something like this, or really don't know the ramifications." Residence halls get money from the vending operation in the form of a monthly rebate of 5 per cent of the income, said Mark Allen, treasurer of AURH. The money he received was the amount he had paid. He said the sight halls together received between $500 and $1,000 a month. Students have spent $60,000 in the past four months on vending machine products, Jolly said. He said that the vending operation didn't try to make a profit. Instead it uses the 2 to 3 per cent profit to reinvest in new machines, he said. He said he was losing money on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, which cost 32 cents to make and sell for 30 cents. When prices do go up, he said, a handful of students object, but the general public accepts the increase. JOLLY SAID THEY TRIED to keep prices as low as possible. He said that he had just received word that the price of cigarettes was going up but that they would be able to increase the price of one semester. The price of soft drinks won't go up next semester, he said. Students want some items even though their price increases, he said. Other more expensive items don't sell, he said. They that tried to sell Hershey and Mars would pay more for them, students wouldn't pay more for them, even the candy was requested by students. Favorite items are chips and soft drinks, he said, especially during finals. Jolly said that his office tried to respond to what students wanted. Right now, he said, the vending operation is experimenting on recipes for brownies. is changing from a Class A club to a Class B club. All prospective members who want to avoid a 10 day waiting period must join before Dec. 6. All members who have been elected as a charter and want a charter membership must do so before Dec. 6. Changing to a Class B club does not effect the policies held by the establishment except for the 10 day waiting period after Dec. 6. --moves from one space. In hexchess, a king has 12 moves. Kansan Classifieds Work For You! Answer No. Three OBERMEIER OFFERS ANSWERS The question was asked how many forms of things are there, what are they and why are there just so many and no more and the answer is three forms for all things in this living world of Nature are composed of the two extremes and the mean. The question was asked what is the answer to the farm problem and the answer is the moratorium. An explanation of the answers is given in Common Sense now available at bookstores and by mail order, price $9c, postpaid (Poole, Kansas). The question was asked where can we get the wealth to fuel our economy? How can we create this wealth with the printing presses and the answer is foreign conquest. --moves from one space. In hexchess, a king has 12 moves. Dynamic Action From Deep Rest TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION Tuesday, Dec. 2 Pine Room Kansas Union 7:30 Wednesday, Dec. 3 Pine Room Kansas Union 7:30 Free Public Lecture: SIMS-a non-profit educational organization Chess for three... 2301 Mass. 842-1225 From page one "Also, in regular chess it takes a knight four moves to return to its original space. In Bretts game, the knight returns." The game appeals to its inventor because the specifics of the space coverage of the pieces haven't been figured out. Jenkins could be explored and researched more. IT HASN'T BEEN PLAYED enough for the strategies to be cut and dry yet," Jenkins said. "I'm interested in the diffferences that come out of this game." Doug Robertson, Kansas City, Mo., junior, who is a member of the KU Chess Club, said that hexchex gave a new dimension to chess. Robertson said that more than 20 common openings were known in conventional chess. But, he said, the openings in hexchess have not yet been analyzed. Robertson said that he had beaten "That just shows you can apply regular chek knowledge to it," he said. THE PATENT THAT JINNIS received the game was not his first try with boxcracker. He said that his applications for a patent from the federal government were rejected. One value of the game, Jenkins said, was how certain restraints of chess were recognized, and how hexcess extended beyond the boundaries of normal chess. HE SAID THAT THE new gene related his own interest in psychology and the science of learning. Jenkins estimated that there were about 10 types of three-player chess games. He said he did not know there were so many when he applied for the patent. "If I had known there were so many giveaways, wouldn't have gone detailed with the pattern. STILL, COMPARED WITH other three-legged dogs, said that he thought, "he was being ridiculed." "It's simple, doesn't add more pieces, and the moves are analogous to conventional chess," he said. "I felt that there were differences to try again (for the patient)." Although he invented the idea for hex- Using Darwin's theory of eventu- mins, said the survey of the fittest mammals in a given region. chess in one evening, Jenkins did not predict any more inventions. "I'm just putting old ideas together ... new ways," he said. "This is probably one of the biggest challenges." Actually, Jenkins said that he was not math-minded," and that his interest in mathematics is "very shallow." "Chesa has been a game that's evolved for centuries," Jenkins said. 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