8 Friday, October 24, 1975 University Daily Kansan Women coaches From page six --them than any other group of athletes I've coached." she said. Staff Photo by DON PIERCE "Before now, the coaches knew they had a responsibility to the players. We couldn't push them that hard; they were coming out of getting time and not getting anything in return. KU women's swimming coach Claire McElroy "I think now the students will have to realize that if they're getting a scholarship, they have a responsibility to the coaches, too." "Before, it was hard to push a girl to spend all that time and force her to be the things I want her to be. A lot said it wasn't worth it," he said. "Girls aren't quite as concerned yet. Men are often more concerned up two hours, and douch off elsewhere." Kivisto said he compared women without scholarships to "redrishers" in NCAA sports. “It’s hard to demand a guy's all, make him go all out in practice, follow a training schedule and all that when he’s putting in all of his time.” He actually competed in the game,” he said. Aside from classwork, Kivisto said he demanded that tennis be "number one" to her. McElloyd said the scholarships made her demand more, the entire team, not just the top eight. SEVERAL COACHES SAID the Kansas branch of the Association of Intercollegiate Athletics for Women (KAIAW) set rules they thought kept the KU athletic department from developing the maximum programs. Igor said the limits KIAAW puts on the length of the volleyball season which Kansas schools are allowed to play keep KU from competing with the better schools, especially those outside Kansas, who do not have the same restiction. He said he thought the problem was a discrepancy between the seriousness of women's athletics today, especially at KU, and the way KUAI viewed them. KU's gymnastics program is growing so much faster than the other Kansas schools that soon it will be competing almost exclusively with out-of-state schools, he said. KIAAI tries to maintain equitable competition within the state, Snow said. That may restrict the gymnastics team's activity outside of Kansas, he said. Kivisto said the only thing AIAW had done about women's tennis is to approve his appointment as head coach. Because he doesn't have a degree in physical education, Kivisto said, his appointment wasn't automatic. BECAUSE KU IS ONE of only two schools in Kansas that have women's swimming programs, there are no KAIAW rules to follow. The only KIAW rules governing swimming describe the strokes and the treatment of injuries. McElroy said. The coaches shared a common bond on the subject of money. Most of them have found that the money they received to develop the program and the money they need to maintain are two distinct needs. All cited a tight budget and insufficient facilities as problems. It's always a thorn." Washington said. "It affects our scheduling and traveling." SNOW SAID, "THERE are always things I'd like to buy." McEllroy said the latest in women's swimming attire, the skinniest, was far too thin. "It may add to our times, but we are survived without them." she said. With the scarcity of resources to both programs, it is inevitable that the men's and women's programs would "rub elbows," as Washington put it. Friction between the two is less today than earlier, according to the coaches. Washington said she was feeling more tree to approach her man counterpart, Terry Gilliam. Kivisto and Snow said their relationships with Kirkland Gates, the men's tennis coach, and Bob Lockwood, men's gymnastics coach, were excellent. KIVISTO SAID THE two teams played in the past and would try a mixed meet this Snow said he and Lockwood had scheduled a dual meet for Dec. 6. McEloy said her team maintained "very friendly" relations with the men's swim The two teams share Scott Pyle, the during coach, lanes教练, during training, and matriatron. --- WITH A LINEUP FOR FALL "75" LIKE THIS ONE, YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT US!! PLAYERS: S. E. — Gant & Creighton Shirts R. T. — British Byford Socks & Sweaters R. G. — Puritan Sweaters & Sportswear C. — Pacific Trail Down Jackets L. T. — Wright Slacks L. G. - Jersild Ski Sweaters T. E. — Pendleton Shirts & Sweaters R. B.—Zero King & London Fog Outerwear R. B. — Corbin Trousers Q. B — Cricketeer Clothing STAFF: Pete & Chris Whitenight With a lineup of great clothing and sportswear stars like these and the superb leadership and tradition of excellent service of our coaching staff we expect our team to go 11-0 and win the Big 8 again this year! W. R. — Tobias Trends Leisurewear HEAD COACH: Ken Whitenight GO JAYHAWKS!! THE Town Shop 839 Massachusetts Downtown the men's shop Glad To See You Back Visit Your Old Haunts With A New Look For a delicious variety of sandwiches stop by THE DELI Level 3 Before and After the Game 8:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m. Quick Service Before the Game RIVER CITY SALAD BAR featuring homemade soup and sandwiches Level 3 11:00 a.m.-1:15 p.m. Pamper yourself with private dining THE PRAIRIE ROOM For That Game-Day Feeling Join the Crowd at the HAWK'S NEST Level 2 11:00 a.m.-1:15 p.m. Level 2 11:00 a.m.-1:15 p.m. Private Dining Rooms and Catering Services are available through Reservations Office,913-864-4651 THE KANSAS UNION ---