Birthing room question debated By ANN SHIELDS Staff Reporter Whether or not to install a birthing room in Lawrence Memorial Hospital is still a question of how safe is safe. Henry W. Buck, LMH chief of obstetrics, has said he would not recommend induction for women under regulations set for traditional delivery rooms, which require a minimum of 24 square feet a room. He said he would not allow obstetricians to study studies convince him the room was safe. A birthing room has a homier atmosphere than a traditional delivery room and allows the mother to stay in one room during labor and delivery. Helen Martin, nursing consultant for the state Bureau of Maternity and Child Health, said her office probably would need a full-time nurse to square feet for rooms in maternity centers. MATERNITY CENTERS are independent of hospitals and are regulated by different laws. The bureau, which outlines minimum standards for a proposed maternity center is about 150 square feet that maternity be no more than 30 miles away from approved hospitals. Martins' Martin, who also approves hospitias plans for birthing rooms, said that rooms within labor and delivery wards were usually safe. However, Buck rejected plans for a room in LMH because the proposed birthing room, which would be four doors, was too small and not close enough to emergency equipment. BUCK ALSO SAID he opposed plans to enlarge a labor room because the room's design prevented doctors from using anesthetics. However, Martin said that anesthetics could not be used in most birthing rooms because the rooms were designed for natural birthbirth. "The whole idea of a birthing room," she said, "rules out an anesthetic. "If a woman needs an anesthetic, she should be in a delivery room." If an emergency causes a woman to need an anesthetic, she is usually transferred to the delivery room, Martin said. Buck refused to comment on the different standards. Martin said the bureau needed to approve plans for birthing rooms because hospitals usually had to ignore some regulations to install them. HOSPITALS WERE USUALLY HESISTANT to change their policies, however, because they feared malpractice suits, she said. However, Maternal and Child Health director, atrial collocation birth centers, and birth rooms were established because the policy changes, office apprehension, or safety should be addressed. Schloesser said she thought most Kansas hospitals were progressive. "However, I think that some consumers are impatient and want to see changes happening faster than they are," she said. She said LMH had a good record of both mother and child care and offered many progressive maternity services, such as allowing sibling visits. "But Kansas has had such a good record that the medical profession is reluctant to risk it," she said. Martin said she thought hospitals had a responsibility to respond to consumers' demands and make hospital care acceptable to people. She said home deliveries, especially around Lawrence and other university towns, were increasing. Favorable interest rates create big interest in KU Credit Union Because of low interest rates on loans and high interest rates on savings, 5,000 KU students, faculty and staff members now do college credit. A Federal Credit Union at Cerruthu O'Leary Hall. At the Credit Union, savings interest rates are about 1.25 percent higher and loan interest rates are about 2.5 percent lower at most commercial banks, according to figures from the Credit Union, the Dougles Bank and the First National Bank of Lawrence. "Commercial banks and savings and loans institutions have longer hours and more offices, like the 24-hour machines," Radeki said. "It is almost crazy not to borrow and save at these rates," Janet Price, manager and treasurer of the Credit Union, said yesterday. Thursday, February 14, 1980 BUT A LACK OF CONVENIENCE hurts the business of a credit union, Lawrence Radecki, assistant professor of economics, said. However, the Credit Union will try to increase its services in March or April by offering a checking program called Expand-A-Check. Price said. The Credit Union offers low rates on life insurance, with payments up to $2,000. It also offers repayment of loans if the borrower dies. Low default rates can cause lower loan rates at credit unions, Radecki said, because members do not have to absorb the cost of unpaid loans or renoissued goods. "The people that belong to the Credit Union are faculty and staff, and I don't think they are going to skip town with a loan or not pay one back." Radeki said. As opposed to commercial banks, credit unions are non-profit organizations A member of the KU Credit Union has to be a member of the KU faculty, staff or student body. Faculty and staff members can have full privileges of the Credit Union, but students can receive loans only if they are enrolled at least part-time by the University. PRICE SAID that the Credit Union's board of directors did not receive pay and the organization was small. This profit pay for eight full-time and two part-time employees. The Credit Union is insured by the National Credit Union Association up to $40,000. Price said. To protect its members. "We invest our money in the Kansas Corporation of education by providing credit union, They in busiinvest the money in the national organization and we can borrow money that is available." the Credit Union is required by federal law to reinvest its money into something federally insured, such as federal Treasury bills. Lawrence skaters should steer clear of Potter Lake ice skating on Potter Lake is risky business and could leave people deep in ice water, several University of Kansas officials said this week. By JENNIFER ROBLEZ University Daily Kansan Staff Renorter "How would you like to take responsibility for telling 20,000 people it's OK to skate?" said Jim Mathes, assistant director of landscaping maintenance. KU director of police, Capt. John Mullens, said his police officers told skaters that any activity on the lake was not the University's responsibility. "We tell skaters that it's not safe to be on the lake. There are parts of it that never completely freeze." he said. HOWEVER, RICHARD Perkins, assistant director of Facilities and Operations, said there were no structural problems with the lake. "There's a drain line from a steam tunnel to the west, but that doesn't keep the lake from freezing," he said. Mathes also said that the lake was not designed to be a skating lake and that it was not maintained as one. Such a person would need to know a lot about ice, Mathes said, including break points, weight capacity, water density and current weather patterns. "It hasn't even been cold enough this winter to thoroughly freeze. Last winter we had about 12 inches of ice. this year we may not even have three," he said. "We don't have anybody qualified to say when the ice is safe," Mathes said. ANOTHER PROBLEM that keeps the lake from being safe is litter. "People throw stuff into it, like rocks and glass, then it freezes on the surface," Mathes said. Mullens said sleedders also have to be careful on the ice. "It may come to the point where they'll have to use their toboggan as a boat," he said. SIGNS WARNING skaters of their responsibility soon may be posted around the lake. However Mathes said, discussion about how to word the signs and where to put them could delay their appearance until next winter. An alternative site for Lawrence skaters is the man-made pond at Central Park between Sixth and Tennessee streets. According to the Douglas County Sheriff's department, Lone Star and Clinton Lakes are not ready for skating. ★ STUDENT SENATE ELECTIONS ★ Plan 1 $95 SPRING BREAK MARCH 7-16, 1980 Plan 1 $95 Plan 2 $165 / nights accommodations a day trip to Matamoras, Mexico Souvenir T-Shirt transportation by bus limited refreshments on bus Hours 10:30-5:30 Tuesday-Saturday Provide own transportation Deadline for formal complaints is one hour after the final polls close. All complaints must be in writing and submitted to the elections chairman. Sign-up at SUR Office. Deadline is February 15, 1980 Plan 2 $165 Thursday afternoon at 4:15 p.m. in the Centennial Room of the Kansas Union. 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