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Wednesday, January 30, 1974
University Daily Kansan
CWC Advising Complex
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ADVISING INFORMATION is sent to faculty advisers in Pearson College, Dennis Quinn, director of Pearson College, said. He said, however, that it was impossible for every adviser to have a running knowledge of the counseling system.
“Advisers often don't know what is going on but only because they have received too much information to digest to keep it all in working order,” said Quinn. “How is the ordinary instructor expected to know all of this information at once?”
The counseling system at KU not only is complex, but also has been made more complex as enrollment has increased, Lewis said. Each CWC faculty adviser taught each semester, although some instructors don't participate in advising at all.
Quinn also said many students didn't know how complex counseling in a large university was.
MARY TOWNSEN, assistant professor of psychology, said she hadn't participated in advising for three years because she didn't like it. She said she did handle advising for students who sought her advice in psychology or social work.
"I counsel students in careers in social work where I spend four or five one-hour appointments with them," she said. "I do not feel my expertise is in advising but
rather in coaching students who come to me with problems."
The way students go about meeting with advisers varies among CWCs. In North College the college office sets up appointments for students to see advisers, Gillerman sad. At each appointment an adviser will handle two students for a half
In Oliver College students are informed when their advisers are available, and they must plan accordingly. Students in Pearson College must make their own arrangements.
EVERY CWC offers some form of dean's meeting in which new students are introduced to the CWC personnel, receive general information and have advising sessions. The meetings are conducted before enrollment each semester.
"I think the dean's meeting is the most ridiculous thing I have ever gone to," said Ayers. "They were talking on one level on how much work I did. I didn't even know what a timetable was."
A major reason so many students complain about CWC advising is that faculty members and students have different perspectives aspected to an advancing session, Cobb said.
"Some students want only to have enrollment cards stamped while others want instructors to explain what is being taught, so they act as though an instructor does not know what to expect
out of his advises, and often students don't ask for the help they need."
Lewis said that it was the intention of Centennial College to make advisers available to students throughout the institution, and they used the Centennial office for convenience.
"It IS MY hope that faculty availability will make the advising session more than a place to pick up catalog information," Lewis said. "A good advising session would advise and advise share information and open it on KU and higher education in general."
All five CWC directors agreed that faculty advisers were willing to meet with students. Some students said advisers were unwilling to meet with them.
Candy Iencole, Topeka said, "Faculty members in both the CWC and professional schools are often unwilling to waste their time advising students, so maybe the CWCs should hire some upstart faculty or the job because they seem more willing."
"I am very willing to advise students and I "i enjoy it," said George Wedge, associate professor of English. "I like to have the students come to me all semester, but many students think they do not need advising help past enrollment."
Part of the reason for the differing views is that the CWC directors urge students to remain noncommittal during their first two years at KU.
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"WE TRY to prevent students from making stiff commitments too fast so of course advising becomes ambiguous," Quinn said.
The five CWC directors also agreed that more students thought they didn't need extra training.
Although the admiring system has been criticized, the CWC directors and students have been very happy.
"The CWC serves a very good administrative purpose when a student has a chance to meet with an adviser away from the confusion of enrollment." Karen Dirks, Dodge City senior said. "The journalism school holds advising at Allen Field House which is in mass confusion during enrollment."
Cobb said, "With all the sour notes at the clew has been successful in finally giving students an advising session where they can have a one-to-one ratio with an adviser."
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