NSA Program Comes too Late By Scott Payne With four hours left to live, a desperate KU National Student Association committee spent its meeting yesterday afternoon trying to strengthen its defenses by making campus activity plans. to Wrighton Edward R. Murrow will not speak here as the committee planned; nor will the film "Harvest of Shame" be shown — the committee died at the All Student Council Meeting last night. The committee had finally received the information when "Harvest of Shame" would be available. Judy Jamison, Ottawa junior, told the group she received a letter saying the film would be available in three weeks. AT THE SAME TME, Charles Menghini, Pittsburg senior, announced that Mr. Murrow would be in Kansas City, Mo., in about three weeks for the rededication of the Liberty Memorial there. "I think that we can get Murrow to speak to us on the film, since he is the producer of it," said Menghini. he is the producer of it. The committee approved the showing of the film and bringing Mr. Murrow to KU. Miss Jamison said she had received notice from another proposed speaker saying that he would not be able to come to KU this semester. The speaker in question was Michael Harrington, editor of the official socialist party publication. Turning to other matters, Menghini introduced a motion to pass a resolution entitled "In Loco Parentes" (In Lieu of Parents). "THIS IS A BASIC POLICY DECLARATION OF THE NSA which was passed at the last NSA Congress," Menghini said. "The resolution declares NSA's objection to the paternalistic attitudes of many school administrations," he said while summarizing the lengthy resolution. the length resolution. Jerry Dickson, Newton junior, said, "I don't quite see the logic in the committee passing this resolution. "It seems to me that this is diametrically opposed to the stand on discrimination this committee took a week ago," he said. (THE COMMITTEE'S STAND WAS supporting the action of a group of students who met in conference two weeks ago with Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe protesting the "listing of discriminatory housing" policy of the University.) Arthur C. Miller, Pittsburg junior, said, "the resolution is in opposition to types of paternal attitudes which many Universities hold. For instance, many school administrations may censor the student press or put extreme limitations on student government and other areas in which students must have active voices." Following further discussion and complaints that the resolution was vague, Robert Thomas, Marysville, Tenn., senior and NSA committee chairman, said, "Let's table this discussion for one week until copies of the resolution can be distributed and until we know what we're talking about." DICKSON CHANGED THE DISCUSSION to the NSA disaffiliation issue to come before the All Student Council later that day. "I'd like to introduce a motion that if ASC votes for disaffiliation we will appeal to continue this committee as the 'KU Student Association' or Current Events Committee," he said. "This committee would be an integral part of student activity at KU." he added. JERRY PALMER, EL DORADO SENIOR and chairman of the ASC, informed the committee that the resolution to go before the ASC asking for disaffiliation from NSA included several sections providing for a Current Events Committee. "This committee," he said, "would probably have the same membership that the NSA committee has now." (Continued on page 10) Housing Progress Satisfies Marchers A spokesman for the Negroes who marched across campus Oct. 13 says the majority of the marchers are satisfied with progress on housing discrimination since the demonstration. In a telephone interview last night, Nolen Ellison, Kansas City, Kan., junior, said the marchers are not. however, "sitting back and relaxing." He said the main reason for the march was to inform the University of the feelings of the Negro students. (The march of 76 Negroes was a protest against the University's housing policy. At the end of the march, a list of grievances was presented to Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe.) "ALL WE CAN DO IS let the University know how we feel. All we can do is hope that progress is and will be made concerning the problem," Ellison said. He said that in a conference requested by the Chancellor, he "had been led to believe" that a committee had been set up to study the housing discrimination problem. "The Chancellor asked me to come to his office on a Monday morning, I was pleased that he would take time out of a tough working day to speak to me. I talked to him as 'Nolen Ellison, the student' and we had a nice informal chat," Ellison said. HE SAID THAT NO definite answer has been received from the Chancellor concerning the list of grievances, but that from indications observed by several marchers in meetings with KU officials, the University is "making definite progress" in regard to the discrimination problem. "I AM DEFINITELY SURE that the people who took part in the march feel satisfied." Daily hansan 59th Year, No. 29 ASC Kicks Out NSA, Drops Alternate Plan LAWRENCE. KANSAS Who Needs NSA? Wednesday, October 25, 1961 "If we don't agree with the administration nobody will listen so we don't need the committee," one student said. "If we do agree with the administration, they will represent us, so again there is no need for a committee." ASC Sets Up Liaison Group OPPOSITION TO THE bill contended that the students have to go through the administration, specifically Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe, to get these groups to listen to the students. The group, called the Student Liason Committee, will be headed by the student body president. The committee will "endear to meet" with the above named groups, according to the liaison bill. In another action, the ASC set up a student committee to advise the Kansas Board of Regents, the Kansas Legislature, the Lawrence City Council, and the governor in matters concerning KU students. Jay Deane, Kansas City junior, sponsored the bill. In an interview after the meeting, he was asked what the committee might advise the groups about. "My intention wasn't to be specific. But, for example, take a budget pending before the legislature to build new classrooms. This committee could research needs for classrooms and present the legislature with the facts." HE REPLIED: He admitted that if the views were contrary, the liaison committee's influence "would be cut down," but said he "didn't think this is a valid reason for not having the committee especially when you consider that students here will be voting constituents of state legislators." "This plan sets up a lobbying group for KU students," he said. Deane said there is now a shortage of classroom space. The new class hours show this, he added. IN REBUTTAL TO the argument that the administration can handle student needs, Deane said if the liaison committee "was aligned with the Chancellor, they could add something to his views." When asked why he brought up the bill. Dean said his party's platform (Vox) called for it. He said the party had done the research into the need for the bill. "I don't like the idea of going to class at 7:30 in the morning. We need measures to alleviate the classroom shortage," he said. HE CONTINUED. "It is questionable if these groups will listen to the committee if it disagrees with the administration. But if only one does, it will be worthwhile. Deane said he hopes the committee can gain influence with the groups as a "reliable source for finding student opinion." HAS ANYONE TALKED to rep- (Continued on page 10) Bv Karl Koch The All Student Council last night withdrew KU from the National Student Association. The vote was 14-8 with two abstentions. The original bill before the ASC called for a substitute for the NSA committee on campus, the Current Events Committee. This proposal was deleted from the bill, however. The committee would have taken over the functions of NSA in sounding campus opinion and providing education on current events by use of pamphlets and speakers. ★ ★ ★ Students Disagree Spectator reaction last night was almost unanimous in disapproval of the All Student Council's National Student Association disaffiliation vote. OF ABOUT 25 students interviewed when the meeting broke up, 23, including some NSA committee members, were opposed to the ASC's action. Brian Cleave, British graduate student, said, "This decision tonight is regrettable as it comes at a time when two international student organizations are competing for membership from the new African states. "One of the organizations is the International Student Conference to which NSA is affiliated and supports financially. "The other is the Communist dominated International Union of Students," he added. "KANSAS University has publicly cut itself off from the campaign to prevent further Communist subversion in these areas," he added. Another committee member, Sandra Moore, Saskatchewan, Canada junior, said: "I think that there was a lot more to the issue than $500. It can be summed up as a conflict between personalities and political philosophy." Judy Jamison, Ottawa junior, NSA committee member said: "I am disturbed by the fact that those who opposed NSA resorted to political pressures to gain their majority and refused to discuss the real reasons for disaffiliation." Only the part of the bill calling for disaffiliation with the NSA was voted on. Discussion lasted over an hour. ONE OF THE SPEAKERS was the vice chairman of the NSA Missouri-Kansas region, Bruce Pemberton of Ottawa University. He made a last-ditch effort to convince the ASC to remain in the NSA. In discussing NSA's international function, Pemberton read a letter from Willy Brandt, the mayor of Berlin, to the association's national office. Jay Deane, Kansas City junior, who introduced the bill to disaffiliate at the last meeting, made most of the counter arguments. He contended that the issue came "irrefutably" down to "cost vs. benefits." In the letter, Brandt thanked the NSA Congress for condemning the sealing of the East Berlin border. "APPROPRIATIONS ARE GOING to be close this year," he said, "and other campus organizations need the money more." He said People-to-People was more deserving. A motion by Thomas to vote by secret ballot also failed. A vote was taken and the chair was supported. A nand vote was taken, and Miss McMillen asked for a roll call vote. The vote remained essentially unchanged. Weather Fair today, tonight and Thursday, cooler tonight and locally today. Frost likely tonight. The high today will be around 60 and the low tonight around 40. Thursday's high will be in the 60's. ASC Does Nothing About Housing Bias The ASC last night tabled indefinitely a resolution to endorse the six groups who asked Chancellor W. Clarke Wescoe on Oct. 9 to stop housing discrimination. The decision came on the heels of a report by the Housing Committee and the Human Rights committee which stated in essence that the administration could adequately handle the housing discrimination problem. Thomas Hardy, Hoisington junio and chairman of the housing committee and Roberta Johnson, Joiliet Ill. senior, a member of the Humai Rights committee, made the report to the ASC. BOTH COMMITTEES reported that "to accept the resolution to back non-discrimination in housing would involve too much work, and would result in having to change the housing office setup completely, and wouldn't do much good." The committee report continued: The committee report continued "The size of the housing list is not too big a percentage of all the houses that students are now renting. And, there is no way to enforce a non-discrimination policy. We wouldn't know if rejection of a prospective renter was on grounds of race or on the basis of personal characteristics." By tabling the resolution indefinitely, the ASC can bring it up any time it chooses. It does not mean that the bill is necessarily dead. ANOTHER RESOLUTION to table the bill until reports could be obtained from various groups interested in civil rights was defeated. In regard to the administration being able to handle the discrimination problem. Miss Johnson said: "We think the Chancellor and Dean Alderson are investigating. The administration is concerned. They are in a better position to know what they're doing, and to do something about discrimination." Miss Johnson said the Chancellor has set up a committee including himself; Donald Alderson, dean of men; Emily Taylor, dean of women; L. C. Woodruff, dean of students, and J. J. Wilson, director of dormitories, to study the housing discrimination problem. SHE CITED A PETITION asking that groups leading active resistance against discrimination relax, and let organizations downtown work with Chancellor Wescoe in handling the problem. The petition she referred to was signed by Mayor Ted Kennedy of Lawrence and William Binns, clinical psychologist at Watkins hospital (Continued on page 10)