THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN A Summer In Appalachia The University of Kansas—Lawrenee, Kansas Thursday, March 4, 1971 81st Year, No. 102 See Page 5 Kansan Photo by SCOTT EATON Chaney at left, Smith, Stitt, Chalmers, Jackson and Zilm - participated in SUA seminar on University governance Changing Roles Topic at Seminar By JOYCENEERMAN and PATMALONE Kansan Staff Writers The "changing roles" of the regents, legislators, students and administrators were emphasized at an SUA Seminar on University College Law in the Forum of the Kansas Union. Three state legislators-Rep. Diane M-Gill, R-Winfield; Rep. Burt Chaney, D-Hutchinson; and Sen. Glee Smith, R-Larred; incumbent member Elmier Jackson; Chancellor Zim; presiding officer of the University Senate, discussed their roles and answered questions from a student audience of about 60, Richard Stitt, chairman of University Seminars, moderated the panel discussion. Ebert also planned to present a bill on University cooperatives. The bill calls for the formation of a committee to study the effects of cooperative education food, clothing and gasoline cooperatives. Jackson said that speaking on behalf of some of his conservative colleagues on the Board of Regents, there was a gradual change taking place in their attitudes. Both enactments will be presented March 12 to a joint meeting of the 1970-71 Senate and the House. "I think it is necessary to take second look at the rules we have promulgated," Jackey said. Legislation that was to have been considered at tonight's meeting included a He said the powers of each governing body depend on how the other governs bodies and "We're pretty lame duck," said Bil Ebert, Topeka senior and student body president. Zilim concurred, saying that students often bear that they are involved in a contractual agreement with the university, but that many feel it is a one-sided contract. Quorum Lack Halts Meeting Of KU Senate The last regular session of the 1970-71 Student Senate failed to meet last night because of a lack of a quorum. Only 33 senators answered the roll which was taken 30 minutes after the meeting was scheduled to start. Ebert said many members of the Senate were apathetic about attending Senate meetings throughout the year. He also said some senators could not make it to the meeting tonight because of campaigns and conflicting meetings on campus. "It has to be a team or we're going to end up fighting each other," he said. "Total control should be left to the Board of Regents," he said. Smith said the overlapping of bounds of authority should be avoided, especially by the Smith said he didn't think it was advisable for former college administrators or professors to serve on the Board of Regents. He said he thought the temptation would be too great to develop the attitude, 'when I was doctoral I did it this way.' Rep. McGill said the roles were over-mapping and not as well-defined as in the case. Giving his definition of a legislator's role, McGill said a legislator must act as a mediator between taxpayers and the government. "I see 'the values received for the dollars spent." "The University of Kansas is above all else a state of mind. A state of mind is something that is collected, not directed," Chalmers said. Chalmers said it was difficult to define governing roles. "Many people of Kansas get an exaggerated version of what goes on at the University of Kansas." McGill said. "They represent themselves, have someone representing their interests." Smith said it would be almost impossible to get increased appropriations for the new program. attributed this to an over-reaction by the negotiators to Gov. Robert Docking's rejection, which was interpreted by many as support for Docking's "light-fitted attitude." Chaney said taxpayers might be more receptive to University budget increases if students would show more appreciation to the taxpayers. Saithi said he disagreed with that attitude. "I don't think it is necessary for a student to ask you to say thank you. I think the thanks are said in the excellence of the final product," he said. Smith said he disagreed with that attitude. Nixon to Comment Tonight Thieu Says Incursions Into North a Possibility SAIGON (UPI)—President Nguyen Van Thien warned that South Vietnam would be forced to attack North Vietnam forces "in their own territory" if Hanoi did not stop its aggression and withdraw its troops in South Vietnam. PRESIDENT NIXON doubtless will be asked about President Theu's invasion threat, when he holds a news conference at the White House Thursday, starting at 8 p.m. In his strongest statement to date Wednesday night on the possibility that South Vietnamese units might cross into North Vietnam, Thieu hinted that South Vietnam's preeminently including the United States, as well as any such threat. U.S. airpower has been used to help South Vietnamese forces in both 'cambodia and Laos'. The half-hour session with newsman, his first since Feb. 17, will be carried live on radio and television. The White House said it would limit the questioning to "police policy." In Washington, the White House said there was no discussion at the policy-making level in the U.S. government about support for a peace peace Vietnam invasion of North Vietnam. If the applicant did not declare his cash resources on the welfare application, he might be guilty of fraud, Derrick said. He also said if the person accumulated money while Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler had no direct comment on Thieves' statement warning the Communists not to "put us in a situation which forces us to attack them right in their own territory." Ziegler said, however, that "there's been no policy discussion within this government on that matter." The State Department refused all comment on Thieu's remarks. Zieger said the United States "quite obviously is in close touch and consultation with the government in Saoon" and was aware of Thieu's statement. REPORTS FROM SAIGON said Thieu conferred with U.S. Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker and Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, the U.S. military commander in Vietnam, before which was issued to reporters and then broadcast on Vietnamese radio and television. Thieu was quoted by the official Vietnam Press Agency last week as saying that a South Vietnamese drive into North Vietnam was "only a matter of time." At his Feb. 17 meeting with reporters, Nixon refused to rule out U.S. support for a South Vietnamese invasion of North Vietnam, which Thieu said Wednesday would be in his country's legitimate self-defense against Communist aggression in the south. "I won't speculate on what South Vietnam No applicant is allowed to receive welfare benefits if he has more than $500 in savings and no welfare family may have more than $1,000 in savings. Derrick said. Once a person receiving welfare, he may not accumulate more than the original $500 in savings. Second Satellite Launched By Communist Chinese may decide to do with regard to a possible incursion into North Vietnam in order to defend their national security," Nickson said at that time. Nixon also said there were no problems with U.S. air power in Indochina, except that nuclear weapons would not be used. "We aren't going to do anything until we determine their need at the present time," Derrick said. "Until they are proved guilty, as far as I'm concerned, we have no problem." The satellite was reported launched from There is some feeling in Washington that There's statement might have been intended to throw Hanoi's military forces off balance at a time when the South Vietnamese are under siege. There is resistance in their offensive to severs the Ho Chi Minh Trail supply lines in southern Laos. ★★ Derrick said notices requesting the two appear at the local Welfare office were mailed to him. Welfare Office Investigates 2 Arrested in Drug Raid WASHINGTON (UPI)—The North American Air Defense Command reported that Communist China launched its second satellite into space at 6:15 a.m. Friday and that the satellite was being tracked by U.S. satellites. The two recipients, Kimberly Scott Webster, 22, and Alan Thomas Marcum, 21, both of Lawrence, were charged with illegal possession and sale of drugs. Webster is receiving $99 a month and Marcum $121.50 a month in welfare benefits. The Douglas County Welfare office is investigating the cases of two welfare recipients arrested in last week's drug raids, city court, county welfare director, said Wednesday. SAIGON (UPI)—Communist gunners protecting the Ho Chi Minh Trail with the heaviest anti-aircraft fire of the Indochina eight eight U.S. helicopters in Laos Wednesday Reds Destroy 8 Helicopters He said he was surprised that only two or those arrested in the raid were welfare recipients. He said that the number of applicants at the local welfare office was so great that his staff could not properly investigate each application. on welfare, he would probably be dropped from the rolls after a conference with welfare "It's awfully easy to say it is a welfare problem. But it's a community problem and welfare is just a part of the community," Derrick said. Derrick said he expected to have a report on the two cases for the Douglas County School District. 4 Indicted on Civil Rights Charge Officials estimate the Chinese will nave an ICBM operational in the late 1970's. They believe the Chinese ICBM program has slipped behind its original schedules which would have produced an operational missile in the mid-1970's. Nine American crewmen were lost in the biggest single day vetchuck for U.S. aircraft in history. At the same time, Mitchell announced the Justice Department had closed its investigation into the separate deaths last summer of Mexican-American journalist Jamar and Jerry Leat Amie who were killed during a Chicago riot in east Los Angeles. In announcing an end to the Salazar and Amie investigations, Mitchell said the separate deaths were extensively investigated by the FBI and testimony was by a grand jury. He said no prosecutable civil rights violations were found. Mitchell said Arnie was shot to death last June 20, by Los Angeles police officers. A Los Angeles County Grand Jury declined to prosecute, and the U.S. attorney's office "conducted an extensive investigation," Mitchell said. At the Pentagon, defense officials viewed the new space face as further evidence of Red China's progress toward developing an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM). A comminute said the helicopters took Wednesday all were U.S. Army UHU Hueys which were supporting the South Vietnamese peace process and seven were wounded and eight were missing. In the shootings last summer, police had contended that a series of mistakes-compounded by the fact that of the men in an apartment raided by officers spoke of the two Mexicans. Manslaughter charges against the officers were later dismissed Overall U.S. losses in the Laos aneurysm downwalls were placed at 41 men killed, 42 wounded and 26 missing. Senior officers described the North Vietnamese anti-aircraft training the trial as the most intensive encounter in almost 10 years of fighting in Indochina. South Vietnamese commanders Wednesday sent 2,400 more men into Laos aboard U.S. helicopters, boosting the Saigon task force to 18,000 troops and reports indicated that the army was coming under increasingly heavy pressure. The indictments, involving six policemen in separate incidents last summer, were announced in Washington by Attorney General Roberts who were charged with violations of civil rights. In the shootings, the grand jury indicted Los Angeles policemen Marshall F. Gaines, Police Chief Edward M. Davis reacted angrily to the indictments, saying it was a "day of infamy" for the U.S. Justice Department. "I believe that the motivation in these indictments is political to gain minority votes." Chief Davis said. He termed them a "cheap attempt to use policemen for political gain." U. S. headquarters in Saigon said the U.S. aircraft losses in Laos Wednesday brought to 45 the number of airplanes and helicopters shot down since the South Vietnamese army Mk-10 bombers to 8 to cut the Ho Chi Minh Trai. - Hanoi's lifetime to troops in Southeast Vietnam and Cambodia. The latest satellite was said to be orbiting the earth once every 106 minutes with a maximum altitude of 1,118 miles and a diameter of 574 km. There are no other details about the satellite's orbit. In addition, a federal grand jury indicted two policemen and a civilian for plotting to bargainize a women's home and another individual, a female suspect to disrobe in his patrol car. NORAD said it a U.S. Navy fighter pits in Southeast Asia spotted the trailing fire from a tank. "This new satellite indicates they obviously are working on increasing their booster capacity." LOS ANGELES (UPI)—Four policemen were indicted Wednesday for violating civil rights in the so-called "mistake shooting" deaths of two Mexican nationals last summer. the Shuang-Cheng-Tp facility in central China, where the Chinese sent their first batch of scientists. There was no mention in NORAD's four-paragraph announcement whether the satellite back is broadcasting any audio signals back to earth. The first Chinese satellite broadcast a tape recording of the revolutionary song, "The World Is Red." Salazar was a columnist for the Los Angeles Times. He and two other persons were killed during a Chicanos moratorium rally and march last Aug. 29. None of the 37-foot radar controlled "flying telephone phones" made contact, U.S. headquarters reported. President Nixon has made it clear U.S. planes were free to retaliate against such attacks on American planes. There have been 16 U.S. bombing strikes on North Vietnamese missile bases this year. They went to a skid row apartment in search of a murder suspect wanted in San Leandro. The suspect, who was not at the crime scene, was later freed for lack of evidence. Jeffrey J. Fedrizi and Hactor R. Zepeda, and William Kinsella of the San Leandro, Calif., police department. North Vietnam's determination to cripple the 24-day-old allied campaign against the Ho Chi Minh Trail was underscribed by a report that Communist crews in North Vietnam for the first time fired Soviet-built missiles at two American airplanes flying over South Vietnam. A third plane was made the target of a missile over Laos. The gunfire erupted when one officer said he thought one of the Mexicans in the apartment was charging him with a gun. No weapons were found in the apartment. Policeman Peter J. Lopton was indicted on requiring a Chinese woman, May Ling Lu, to disobey in his patrol car so he could search her. The burglary conspiracy alleged involved Los Angeles policewoman Edgar Brown and Gaines, one of the officers indicted in the shootings. It was charged that Angelo Direzino, a police informant, burglarized the home of Virginia Shaw and gave the officers photos of antique silver he stole from the house. The silver eventually wound up in the possession of attorney Lester Berman, who was then arrested by the officers for possession of stolen property. Decisions Carmin Lanning, Prairie Village Junior, was one of the estimated 3,000 students to cast their votes in Wednesday's election. Voting went through Sunday. Kansas Staff Photos by JIM FORBES Friedman, chairman of the Student Senate Committee on Elections said this years change of a polling place to Summerfield Hall from Murphy Hall seems to have proved to be a good move. The voting totals in each place were: Elsworth-275, G.S.P.-225, Olver-300, Strong-775 Kansas Union-815 and Summerfield-500—for a total of 2,890 votes cast.