Page.4 University Daily Kansan Wednesday, Sept. 27, 1961 Students Give Views on Birch Society By Jerry Musil "Aren't they that extreme Communist group," answered a Topeka freshman yesterday when questioned about the John Birch Society in a survey by the Kansas. The Kansas reported on Sept. 14 that a national coordinator of the John Birch Society said he was planning to organize a chapter in Lawrence. The coordinator, Kent Steffgen, is apparently still in Kansas City, but could not be reached by telephone this morning. A leader of the Birch Society in Wichita, Robert D. Love, will speak at 4 p.m. Friday in the Forum Room of the Kansas Union. OF THE 17 OTHER STUDENTS interviewed, six felt that the Society should not organize a Lawrence chapter, four said they knew nothing about the Society, three agreed with the principles of the Society, three disagreed and one said he was in favor of a Lawrence chapter. "They talk about depriving certain groups of their rights, and if Frats — (Continued from page 1) DEAN ALDERSON SAID the number of men pledged during rush week each fall has increased with the enrollment. This fall, 626 men rushed and 523 pledged, compared to the 1960 figures of 581 rushees and 504 pledges. In 1959, 502 men went through rush and 439 pledged. However, the 1961 pledge figure did not recover from the peak year of 1957, when 541 pledged. At the time, the opening of the new men's dormitories was blamed for the decrease. James Carr, Carthage, Mo., junior and president of Delta Chi, said his and other KU fraternities were meeting the competition from the dormitories. "THE FACILITIES in the dorms are often better than in the fraternities," he said, "but we're certainly not giving up. We've remodeled our house recently and I think our study quarters are nicer than those of the dorms." Tom Beckett, Garden City senior and president of Alpha Kappa Lambda, said the dormitories were not entirely to blame for the decrease in pledges between 1957 and 1959. "After Sputnik, there was an increased emphasis on scholarship by the universities," he said. "There may have been a lag in the fraternities realizing this, but today they are also emphasizing grades." "Fraternities naturally are not all equal in quality," another president said, "but any fraternity which lives up to standards is having no difficulty." ALL THE PRESIDENTS INTERVIEWED emphatically denied that they were having trouble with the national organization. The "Esquire" article, said many chapters have dropped from national membership rather than submit to the "dictates of the fraternity moguls." ASC- (Continued from page 1) (Continued from page 1) They'll be hesitant about fighting you Saturday afternoon if they have to stay with you Saturday night," he said. The committee members who will meet with MU student leaders are Eberhart; Jerry Palmer, El Dorado; Phyllis Westzberger, Lawrence; Bruce Bee, Mission; Ron Gallagher, Fort Scott; Carrie Merryfield, Mineapolis; and Larry Moore, Topeka. All are seniors. things are carried to the ultimate ends the John Birch Society advocates, discussion of the 'Communist Manifesto' by the Western Civilization classes would be banned," said Barry Bennington, Cheney junior. "If you want to fight Communism, you must understand it." ELAINE BOREL, Falls Church, Va., freshman, said she did not think the Society's purpose is actually what members say it is. She added that the Society is not accomplishing anything. "I don't agree with their methods," Faye Weckel, Salina junior, said. "I don't think it is good for any community because they practice the same methods they condemn." "I THINK THE WHOLE thing is ridiculous. They're going overboard but that's their business. I don't think I would like to see a chapter in Lawrence. It's pushing the issue too much." Jane Thompson, Wichita sophomore, said the Society is not a good thing to have on campus. She said that at Wichita University there is constant trouble with the chapter. Tom Collinson, Independence, Mo., sophomore said: "After what I've heard," Dave Duncan, Kansas City sophomore, said, "I don't agree with them. Perhaps they have a good basis, but their methods are too extreme." TOM HEITZ, Kansas City, Mo. senior, said: "The Birch Society should remember that after all it is the college of liberal arts and not the fascist art, and has been for better than 2,000 years. It is basic to the University that the integrity of the academic life be free at all costs." Ed Martin, Topeka junior, said the Society is radical in its attitude and there are better ways of fighting Communism. "I don't think I would like to see one started any place," he added. "I DONT SEE ANY reason why we should go overboard on any particular phase of this political dispute," said Joy Bullis, Davenport, Ia., freshman. "Both the conservatives and the liberals, if anyone can define them, have good points and good ideas and I don't see why one should divorce himself from the other and condemn it," she added. Paul Anthony, Brooklyn. N. Y., freshman, said Birch chapters should not be in existence because they are too extreme. "Birch members accuse people of being Communists because their friends are," he said. "They're trying to fight tyranny with tyranny. Anytime a group goes around name-calling without putting up proof, they go overboard," said Jerry Harper, Wichita sophomore. "I agree with their conservative views, but they have gone too far." JUDY WILLIAMS, Kansas City senior, said she does not agree with Birchers and does not think a chapter should start on campus. "It is not an organization that I would want to be in." Larry Schmidt, Kansas City sophomore, said. "It is a rebel society more than anything else, but I don't see any harm in having one in Lawrence. They might do more good than harm." --featuring contour cut to fit your figure Sale Ends CLIP THIS COUPON "Is that for the same reason that the Young Americans for Freedom won't take a stand on the Birchers?" Miller asked. "That is, that the YAF National Board of Directors had a tie vote 2-2 on the issue, as I read it in 'The New Leader.'" Sept. 30 NSA - (Continued from page 1) Get acquainted with the lowest Cleaning Prices Anywhere! "No," said McIlwaine, "YAF doesn't feel that it can take a stand on the Birch Society at the present time." ANY CLOTH Men's-Child's-Ladies' COAT ANY MATCHED SUIT OR ANY PLAIN 1-PC. DRESS Deluxe 69 C Deluxe Cleaned, Beautifully Pressed NOTE: No Limit-But you must bring this coupon in WITH your order. 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