Friday, May 1, 1998
The University Daily Kansan
Section A·Page 3
Senate to change its listserv
Executive staff makes the call on alterations
By Melissa Ngomngo @kansan.com Kansas staff writer
The Student Senate executive staff will decide today how the Senate listserv will change on Stop Day.
The listserv changes will be decided at the Senate executive board meeting at 3:30 p.m. in the Senate office at the Kansas Union. The meeting is not open to the public.
The Senate listserv, located at senate1@graven.cc.ukans.edu, began this year and allows for announcements and discussions.
Scott Kaiser, student body vicepresident and listserv moderator, said there had been complaints about the listserv, and he wanted to change the listserv to accommodate more people.
Kaiser has suggested some changes to the listserv. One would be to discontinue the current listserv and create two listservs, one for posting Senate meeting times and reports and the other for discussion and posts by student organizations.
Another suggestion is to keep the listserv for discussion and create links to student organizations on the Senate Web page with an events and meetings bulletin board for student organizations.
A third suggestion is to move the discussion from the listserv to the Senate Web page chat room. The Senate Web page is located at www.ukans.edu/~senate.
Kaiser said they also could merge parts of the suggested changes.
Matt Bachand, former off-campus senator, had two problems with changing the listserv. The first was the process.
However, some students object to changing the listserv.
"Senate as a whole should make the decisions, not the executive staff, which is only a small part of the listserv membership," Bacchand said.
He said separate listservs for discussion and announcements should not be created.
"When you create multiple lists for different types of information, you're saying that some information is more important than others," he said. "Anything that students think is important to Senate should be viewed by everyone."
Other complaints about the listserv concern rules set up by former student body vice-president
The rules set by Walden were that there be no profanity, no personal attacks against others and no discussion of Senate elections or coalitions.
Mike Walden.
Walden removed one person for repeated violations and another voluntarily unsubscribed from the listserv after committing a violation.
Walden said the listserv needed to be changed and changing the listserv to an informational format for announcements would be better.
"I think it turns off a lot of potential subscribers when they have to receive 40 e-mails in one day from the Senate listserv." "Walden said.
Another issue concerning the listserv is subscribers being involuntarily unsubscribed.
Kaiser said that on Tuesday between 2 and 4 p.m. someone attempted to unsubscribe eight people from the listserv. Kaiser said the identity of the person was unknown and only that the person had tried to do it on a public computer in the Senate office.
On the Senate Web page there is an area for visitors to put in their names and e-mail addresses. A visitor could then choose whether to unsubscribe to the listserv. The unsubscribe option has been removed.
Kansas: On the Rhodes again?
The University of Kansas will take five shots at obtaining its first Rhodes Scholar since 1993.
Mary Klayder, director of the honors program, said the University had determined its five nominees for the latest round of Rhodes scholarships.
Joshua Dimmick, Rong Chen,
Anna VanCleave, Micah Hanson
and Jennifer Kimball all were chosen because of their excellence in studies at the University, she said.
The Rhodes scholarship allows students to study for two years at Oxford University in England, Klayder said. Although the program looks for outstanding students, there is no specific ideal that students must fit.
By Gerry Doyle
gdoyle@kansan.com
Kansas staff writer
"It's to reward people who are vigorous of mind and body," she
Campus groups that have scheduled meetings on Stop Day, be advised: You are operating outside University of Kansas law, and you could face little or no punishment.
Jennifer Kimball, Ulysses senior, said the scholarship was helping shape her ideas about the future. Kimball said that in applying for the scholarship, she got a better idea of what she wanted to do.
She said studying at Oxford would help her to focus on her future career.
said. "It's people who are academically capable and have good records of grades and service. There's not a single model."
you're doing what you're doing. Plus, Oxford has a program in philosophy, politics and economics. I'm interested in the ways they relate to each other."
The University's nominees will participate in the state competition in early December, she said. Two people from Kansas will be chosen to compete in the regional competition, which involves seven states and 14 applicants. Four applicants will be selected from each region for the scholarships.
University Senate Rules and Regulations state that no University organization shall schedule events or meetings that require student participation during finals or on Stop Day, May 5.
By Brandon Coplep
bcopple@kansan.com
Kansan staff writer
"It makes you question ideas about what you want to do," she said. "It's important to know why
Rules violated by meetings on Stop Day
Joshua Dimmick, Wharton, Texas, junior, said his area of study — genetics — was well-represented at Oxford and the experience he would get there would be nearly unmatched.
"There's a lot of work going on over there that I'm really interested in," he said. "It's really important to me. Over there, the quality of education is very high. I want to surround myself with intelligent students."
Dimmick, who is also a catcher for the Kansas baseball team, said if a KU student was chosen, it would benefit the student and the University.
"It wasn't something I planned on," he said. "It just speaks well of what the University does."
The operative word is require, said Carol Holstead, University Calendar Committee chairwoman. She said groups could call meetings, as long as students' attendance was not mandatory.
The Calendar Committee may grant exceptions to the rule. Holstead said the Athletics Department had asked for an exception and the committee had granted permission.
Order of Omega, a Greek honor society, has scheduled a Stop Day meeting to elect officers for the fall. Mark Whitaker, the group's vice president, said it was difficult to schedule meetings this time of year and Stop Day presented the best alternative.
"It's an humor society, so you know everybody's going to be pretty busy," he said. "I was unaware of any rule prohibiting meetings that day."
Whitaker said the meeting was not mandatory, and the group had no way of forcing its members to attend.
Whitaker and Order of Omega officers may be breaking the rule, but they probably do not need to take any drastic action to avoid the long arm of the law.
Holsted said she received calls from students who found out about the rule and wanted to report they had meetings on Stop Dav.
"I don't have any police power," she said. "If somebody calls complaining, I'm going to send them to the provost."
Carol Prentice, assistant to the provost, said the University had no enforcement mechanism.
"There are few hard and fast penalties at a University," she said. "It's a governance rule, and people are expected to abide by it."
She said the Provost's Office had received few complaints regarding the rule.
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