Morality Debate Packs Ballroom
By Leta Cathcart
and Linda Ellis
"Resolved that the Christian ethic should be adjusted to fit the current American transition in sexual morality."
About 600 students attended the English-style debate on sex and morality last night in the Ballroom of the Union.
Speaking for the affirmative were Charles Warriner, chairman of the sociology and anthropology department and Robert Squier, assistant professor of anthropology.
Speaking for the negative were Dean Emily Taylor, dean of women and the Rev. Paul Davis of the Plymouth Congregational Church.
THE MODERATOR of the debate was E. C. Buehler, director of the forsensice program and the speech I program.
Dean Taylor, first speaker for the negative, said that in order to continue discussion, three basic assumptions were necessary: agreement concerning the interpretation of the term "Christian ethic," American consensus on the state of sexual morality and agreement that there is a way to change Christian ethic.
She said these assumptions are false. She said there is no possible way to change the Christian ethic. People may interpret it, but the individual's interpretation depends on the group with which he associates.
DEAN TAYLOR ALSO emphasized that it is debatable that there is a sexual revolution in our country. She also said that sexuality should be thought of in terms of the whole gamut of sexual relationship.
She said the trends in sexual morality may be classed under four categories—chastity before marriage, the "double standard," permissiveness with affection, and permissiveness without affection. Dean Taylor maintained that the choice of the category is up to the individual.
Rev. Davis began his speech by assuring the members of the affirmative side that all men were "sinners in a very real way."
He emphasized that sex is not a possession, but rather a God-given gift. With that gift also comes responsibility and man must make proper use of it, he said.
REV. DAVIS gave two other reasons why sexual relations before marriage were inadvisable.
The first of these reasons is that an honest sexual relationship cannot be maintained outside of marriage. He said the sexual relationship is the most honest relationship anyone can have, but outside of marriage dishonesty has to develop.
The second reason is that sex is a radical kind of learning, and it is important with whom we discover this knowledge.
Prof. Squier made the initial statement in the debate. He began by questioning the use of the term "Christian ethics" used in the resolution. He used three reasons in his argument concerning the developments in our sexual patterns in recent years.
HE USED the "three C's" to illustrate his argument. They are change, conform, and consume.
By change Squier was referring to the experimentation that takes place in the lives of today's teenagers. The changes are often for change itself and not really for added knowledge, he said.
The conforming aspect in today's trends is portrayed in the patterns formed in high school by many young people. According to Squier, any young person who deviates from the norm of "Thou shall date" is left out.
Consume was the third part of his argument. He cited examples from TV commercials where sex is the dominant theme. He said sex is so much a part of our daily lives that it is almost deified. "Sex is a goddess," he said.
ALSO TAKING the affirmative side, Prof. Warriner said he thought the subject was not very serious, but a lot of fun.
Questions followed his opening words. Is pre-marital sex a violation of Christian ethics? Is it physically harmful? Should there be a set of rules determining what is good and what is bad?
Answering his own questions, Warriner said the pre-marital act was in no way a violation of the Christian ethic.
To a laughing audience he disputed the fact that it is physically harmful. "There is no doctor alive who could say it has bad effects on a person," he said.
The "codes governing sex are set up to give jobs to ministers and deans of women." A roar of applause and cheers from the affirmative group followed that statement.
WARRINER TALKED about women as fragile creatures in past years. Today, he said, she has every right to be as independent and free as men. The nature of the sexual code has changed to provide her with that freedom.
After the ten-minute talks by the four speakers the debate was opened to questions from the floor.
Some of the comments from the affirmative side were in disagreement with Dean Taylor's assumptions. One woman graduate likened getting married without experience to "ordering from a mail-order house before seeing the catalogue." She said to break the code of the past all the young person needed was "courage."
Thursday, Oct. 3, 1963
After about thirty minutes of debate, an old gentleman, standing on the negative side, said in a soft voice, "Doesn't second-hand come pretty cheap?"
Buehler rebutted his remark by saying "The King of England gave up his throne for a piece of third-hand goods."
Dailu hansan
LAWRENCE, KANSAS
Military Leaders Take Over Honduran Government Falls;
61st Year, No. 15
THE ARMED forces guaranteed full respect for the "lives and rights" of all citizens. They called on the people for frank and sincere moral
TEGUCIGALPA, Honduras — (UPI)—The armed forces today deposed President Ramon Villeda Morales and seized power. Heavy fighting followed and there were reports of many dead and wounded.
The army said the coup responded to the popular clamor and was a gesture of authentic patriotism. The military decided to act, the communique said, to rescue the country and restore tranquility in the Honduran family.
Sharp clashes were reported between revolting troops and civil guardmen defending Villaeda Morales. Shooting was frequent in the streets many hours after the 1:30 a.m. coup.
Military leaders ordered a 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew and instructed residents to remain in their homes. The civil guard and all armed civilian groups were placed under military control. Civilians with arms and munitions in their possession were ordered to turn them in immediately to the nearest army post.
All military zones in the country were reported backing the coup with exception of one sector of the fourth and fifth military zones. There was no elaboration.
The Los Angeles Dodgers won the second game of the 1963 World Series today by defeating the World Champion New York Yankees 4-1 behind the pitching of lefthander Johnny Podres and reliefer Ron Perranoski.
AN ARMY communique from the third military zone said Villeda Morales was overthrown to put a halt to restlessness and anarchy in the country and end flagrant violations of the constitution and obvious communist infiltration.
Right fielder Roger Maris of the Yankees suffered a muscular bruise of the left arm that forced him from the game in the third inning today, but Yankee physician Dr. Sidney Gaynor said Maris would be ready to play again Saturday.
Villeda Morales was deposed just 10 days short of completing a six-year mandate. General elections for his successor were scheduled for a week from next Sunday.
Elston Howard greeted the Dodger reliever with a single to right field which scored Lopez for the Yankees' only run. Joe Pepi-tone then forced Howard at second and Cletis Boyer struck out.
The Dodgers scored 4 runs on 10 hits and one error; the Yankees had one run on 7 hits and no errors.
Maris was hurt when he lunged into the wire fence along the right field foul line while chasing Tommy Davis' third inning triple.
LA Stops Yanks In 2nd Game
Gaynor said the injury was not serious. Maris was replaced in right field by Hector Lopez.
The Yankees threatened in the ninth inning when they scored their only run. After Mickey Mantle flied out to Tommy Davis, Hector Lopez hit a ground-rule double. His drive down the left field foul line bounced into the seats.
The Dodgers won the first game of the series yesterday 5-2, when Sandy Koufax set a World Series record by striking out 15 Yankee batters.
The winning pitcher was Podres. The loser was rookie Al Downing, the Yankee starter.
Dodger manager Walt Alston replaced Podres with Perranoski.
cooperation in these crucial moments when we are trying to preserve the internal and international prestige of our beloved Honduras.
In addition to the shooting in Tequigalpa, "various disorders" were reported in the north coast port towns of San Pedro Sula, Cortes, Tela and Progreso.
Weather
Continued fair autumn weather is forecast for the Lawrence area tonight and tomorrow. Slightly cooler temperatures are expected, with the low tonight of 50-55 and a high Friday of 85.
CRC Studies Job Practices
The fair employment practices of Lawrence employers will be a major target of the Civil Rights Council this year.
The CRC decided that local employers should be checked to find out whether they hire Negroes. Although the CRC did not name any specific store as discriminating in employment, they thought it to be a major problem.
THE GROUP also felt that the discrimination problem in local taverns should be checked.
Bowers said, "The tavern discrimination problem is still wide open. According to the HRC survey, 81 per cent of the KU students feel that taverns should not discriminate." It was pointed out that the HRC is rather limited in action, but the CRC will be able to act where the HRC cannot.
"There is a definite procedure to be followed in acting on an issue of this type," said Miss Nicks. "We had the same problem this summer in Detroit, and we had to find out which employers were definitely discriminating."
Charles Menghini, Pittsburg graduate and past co-chairman, said in Kansas any employer having eight or more employees must follow the state fair employment practices.
ARTHUR SPEARS, Kansas City junior, speaking on fraternity and sorority rush, said, a Negro girl interested in going through rush between semesters should sign up by next Wednesday.
It was not known at the time if Alpha Kappa Alpha, Negro sorority, would be participating in rush this year. The sorority does not have a house and therefore is not a member of Panhellenic.
"The Negroes are closer to the Greek system than they might think," said Spears. "There was a case in the past where a Negro boy was seriously being considered by a white fraternity, but before they had voted on him he pledged the colored fraternity."
IT WAS CONCLUDED that the matter was more of an individual thing and that there was nothing the CRC could do as a group except urge girls to participate.
"I can definitely say that there will be some Negro girls going through rush this year," said Spears. "I have talked to a number of freshmen and they have indicated that they will go through."
George Ragsdale, Kansas City senior, was elected chairman of the council.
Dennis Bowers, Kansas City senior, was elected vice chairman and Beverly Nicks, Detreit, Mich., junior, was elected secretary.
The CRC discussed plans for the coming semester and the survey recently conducted by the Human Rights Committee of the All Student Council.
Army troops were visibly in control in Tegucigalpa at mid-day. They held the public utilities and surrounded the presidential palace. Army regulars were all over the city, armed with tommyguns.
U. S. officials said that if it became clear that the coup had been accomplished, the normal procedure would be for Washington to announce suspension of all aid programs and official relations with Honduras. This would be because the government the United States recognizes there would have ceased to exist.
THE SAME procedure was followed Sept. 26 in the Dominican Republic when the armed forces overthrew President Juan Bosch's government. U.S. officials had feared the Dominican coup would encourage other military takeover attempts in Latin America. They said today the Tequigalpa development appeared to bear out these fears.
Officials said Washington was aware many weeks ago that a Hon-duran coup was being planned. About two weeks ago, they said, military preparations became more overt.
Ambassador Burrows was then instructed by Washington to make clear to Honduran military leaders in the strongest terms they would receive no support, and in fact opposition and disapproval, from Washington.
Only yesterday, officials reported to newsmen that it was succeeding. They said the danger of a coup appeared to be receding.
Both U.S. and Honduran officials sought to avert a coup in a series of consultations that were in progress until last night.
The captain, a member of the U.S. Army special forces, was the 83rd U.S. military man to be killed in combat in South Viet Nam since the American assistance buildup began in January, 1961. The total U.S. death toll, including the 27 non-combat fatalities, is 110.
SAIGON, SOUTH VIET NAM,
(UPI) — Communist guerrillas killed a U.S. Army captain and eight Vietnamese soldiers today in a highway ambush of a supply convoy near the Cambodian border.
U.S. Captain Killed in Saigon
AN AMERICAN military spokesman said one of the Vietnamese dead in the ambush attack was an officer. Communist casualties were not known.
The spokesman said Viet Cong Communist guerrillas sprang the ambush about 85 miles north of Saigon just as the first vehicle of a two-truck supply convoy passed a mine they had planted in the road.
THE MINE EXPLODED, blowing the first truck off the road and setting it afire. The guerrillas then fired on the other truck and detonated a second mine. Soldiers riding in the second truck scrambled for cover and opened fire on the guerrillas. The Communists retreated under the fire.
THE SOURCES said the attack occurred early Monday and that preliminary surveys indicated an estimated 70 weapons were missing and may have been captured by the Communists.
The Communists drove the hamlet's estimated 2,000 inhabitants back in the mountains from which they had come only four months ago. American sources said the inhabitants, mountaineers of the Behnar tribe, had fought until they ran out of ammunition.