New ASC Group To Inform Public Of Student Views By Fred Frailey The Student Liaison Committee of the All Student Council presented itself to the public at a breakfast Sunday morning, and was favorably received by all the officials and administrators present. The committee, created by the ASC in Oct., 1961, will convey student opinion on matters affecting KU to such groups as the Lawrence City Council, State Board of Regents, Kansas Legislature, the governor and KU administration. Gov. John Anderson, who had expressed interest in the new group, accepted an invitation to the breakfast, but did not attend. JIM THOMPSON, Hugoton senior, who is the committee chairman, said outside groups have been largely uninformed on student opinion in affairs connected with the University. "For example, when the traffic control booths were installed last year, how many students were asked beforehand what they thought of the idea?" said Thompson. "The administration said the traffic control system was necessary, but nothing was done to discover student opinion on the project." Another member of the liaison committee said KU students deserve to have their opinions expressed to persons whose decisions will affect them. Larry Bast, Topeka sophomore, said: "It has been evident in the past, as in the case of the dispute JIM THOMPSON "Listen to us." concerning the expansion of KC's football stadium, that student opinion can and must play a vital role in making decisions that will affect a majority of the students." Thompson said the SLC will be free of partisan campus politics. "ALL TOO OFTEN political party decisions are based on profit to the party and not on profit to KU and its students," he said. "I can honestly say that those on this committee will act above the realm of politics. They are thinking as responsible members of what we hope will be a worthwhile committee." "When problems come up, we hope you will confront us and Speaking to the three members of the University administration attending the breakfast in the Kansas Union, Thompson said: listen to what we have to say. We'd like to tell you what student opinion is and tell students what your opinion is. "We think we have found a way to get something done on a personal basis." VICE CHANCELLOR James R. Surface responded by pledging the administration's co-operation with the committee. Owens promised to inform the City Council of the committee's existence and purpose at the next commission meeting Oct. 2. "I like the word liaison," said Surface. "We would be concerned if students felt that faculty-student relations had to be treated like a labor-management dispute. We believe our interests are common interests instead of conflicting ones. This committee cannot miss helping the University." Members of the committee are Thompson, Bast, James Breckenridge, Lewisburg junior; Peggy Conner, Wichita junior; Jack Croughan, Novato, Calif., senior; Dick King, Kansas City sophomore; Sharon McIlrath, Hugotor vana, ill., sophomore. "THREE YEARS AGO, there were sit-ins at beer taverns in town." Owens said. "At the time, there was no student group we could approach to get some fundamental issues resolved. This should assure us that we will never be in a situation like that again." Donald K. Alderson, dean of men, and Emily Taylor, dean of women, also attended the breakfast. Lawrence City Commissioner James Owens, representing the city government, said the Student Liaison Committee will give the City Council a link with student government. JAMES R. SURFACE "Our interests are common." more; Sharon McIrath, Hugoton sophomore, and John Sapp, Havana, lll., sophomore. Dailu Hansan LAWRENCE. KANSAS Grand Jury Indicts Eight For Segregation Tactics Others named in the indictment were Jesse B. Stoner, 39, Atlanta, attorney for the party; James K Warner, 24, Wilkes-Barre, Pa., associate editor of the party's newspaper David Stanley, 19, a native of Toronto now living in Birmingham Two persons died Sunday in accidents in Lawrence involving KU students, and another person was critically injured. A Bellaire, N.Y. freshman was injured critically last night when the bicycle he was riding collided with a moving automobile at 13th and Tennessee. Three KU students were involved in two separate accidents Sunday. BIRMINGHAM—(UPI)—A federal grand jury today indicted eight men associated with the pro-segregationist national states rights party on charges they interfered with court-ordered integration of Birmingham schools. Indicted and arrested today were Dr. Edward Fields, a chiropractor who heads the State Rights Party; Gerald Dutton, 22, of Atlanta, youth leader of the party; Ralph W. Lewandowski, 18, of Chicago, a member of the party; and Jack Cash, 56, of Birmingham. Cash was described as an associate of the others. Four of the men, including the head of the party, voluntarily submitted to arrest and four others said they would turn themselves in Wednesday. Monday, Sept. 23, 1963 All eight were charged with either conspiring to interfere with court orders or with actual interference. Archie Barry Braden, 18, was described in very poor condition today by hospital attendants. He was in critical condition last night in the hospital's intensive care unit. FEDERAL DISTRICT Judge Clarence Allgood disclosed there had been attempts to intimidate or influence the special grand jury which returned the indictments following a weeklong investigation. All were arraigned and held under $2,500 bonds each. Two persons were killed early yesterday in a two-car accident at 19th and Massachusetts. BRAYDEN collided with a car driven by Joseph B. Harder, 20, Moundridge junior. Crashes Kill Two; Students Involved A car driven by John Ritchie, 19. Wichita freshman, collided with a vehicle driven by Arthur J. Cobb, 40. Eudora. A passenger in Cobb's car, David Helm, 15. Lawrence was killed instantly. Police charged Ritchie with speeding and failing to yield the right of way and to stop at the signal. Cobb died about 40 minutes later at Lawrence Memorial Hospital. Ritchie suffered lacerations of the eye and knee and a mild concussion. He was in good condition today at Watkins Memorial Hospital. The Helm youth was the son of Mr. and Mrs.James Helm, 627 Ash St K. L. BREMMER, a Lawrence policeman, said Ritchie's car was eastbound on 19th St. Cobb was southbound at the time of the accident. Today is the first day of Autumn, so it will be cool tonight— about 60—and quite pleasant tomorrow with the temperature in the mid-80's. Cobb's wife said her husband and the Helm youth had been fishing Saturday and probably were returning home at the time of the accident. 1:45 a.m. Weather and Barnie Carmack Jr., 29, of Birmingham. THREE BIRMINGHAM white schools admitted five Negroes Sept. 10. Fields and several followers clashed with police at barricades at two of the schools, then helped organize a boycott against the newly-integrated schools. The grand jury returned a single indictment naming the four men and asked to be permitted to continue its investigation at a later date. Allgood agreed and instructed the jury also to look into the Sept. 15 bombing of a Negro church which killed four young girls when more evidence is available. U. S. Commissioner Mrs. Louise Charlton said the arraignment of the four men had nothing to do with their guilt or innocence. They will be tried in federal court here at a date to be set later. MRS. CHARLTON set bonds for each of the men at $2,500. Allgood asked the grand jury to look into the efforts to influence the jury and the court. The four were charged with 26 overt acts and two other counts, all of which charged conspiracy to obstruct, impede and interfere with the court-ordered desegregation of two high schools and an elementary school here. "We bitterly resent any person or persons thinking that they could successfully intimidate or influence this jury or court," Allgood said. Science Branches War Over Government Funds A "war" has developed between the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) scientists and scientists of other areas, Jules Bergman, ABC-TV science editor, said Friday in a speech at Swathout Hall. Biologists and chemists — the "hard-core scientists" — complain there is not enough money left to their work after expensive space projects, he said. Also, too many especially graduating collegians, are being diverted to space technology, leaving other areas of science and technology undermanned. "FOR INSTANCE, both the quality and quantity of medical school applicants has declined alarmingly in the last five years," Bergman said. He believes that oceanography will be far more important to man's future than space exploration. "It's not as sexy and it is not as good for television material," he said, "but in terms of food shortage and the population explosion the advantage is obvious." Bergman said many scientists believe the U.S. does not need a manned space expedition as outlined in project Apollo. The NASA cost estimate for Apollo is now $20 billion. It would be more realistic to double that figure. "At any rate it will be the most expensive roch- rock-gathering trip in history." THESE SCIENTISTS think capsule equipment could tell us almost as much about the moon's surface for one-tenth the cost. U. S.-Soviet collaboration on a manned lunar shot is highly unlikely. Bergman believes. He said the most realistic proposal made thus far is that the Russians make the boosters and we make the capsule. "The technological difficulties in coordinating the two would be tremendous." HOWEVER, recent international developments,the huge expense and deficit budgets of both countries and the joint communications satellite program now under way indicate there is hope for a joint project. he said. "The crisis following Sputnik was caused by a lack of continuity in our research and operational programs." HANDSHAKING FRIENDS—Miss Kansas, Karen Schwartz, Pratt, junior, met seven students representing four Colombian universities last night at a reception in the Kansas Union. The students, who have been touring the Lawrence area this weekend, are Jaime Ceballos, Julio Cesar, Hugo Sanchez, Ignacio Coral, Anibail Dussan, Hernan Gomez, and Omar Guerro.