Page 6 University Daily Kansan. April 5. 1984 Musgrave continued from p. 1 friend because I was tired of seeing them die, he said, "But you make friend feet, if the humk." because I was tired of seeing them die," he said. "But you make friends fast in the bush." Musgrave, who is a member of the KU Vietnam Memorial Committee, said he was committed to honoring the memory of his buddies. The memorial has been criticized by some who say it glorifies the war, he said, but the memorial goes beyond politics — it is an honest memorial to U.S. soldiers who died in Vietnam serving their country. "If I thought it was glorifying war, 'I resist it!' said Musgrave, whose Missing-In-Action bracelet pays silent tribute to a soldier who is still unaccounted for. "WE HAVE A VOICE, and we can talk to people and defend ourselves. But the 59,000 killed don't have a voice." The American people perceive Vietnam veterans as being supportive of the war, he said. But there is a difference between serving your government by believing in the policies of the administration. People must "learn to separate the war from the warrior." "It's disgraceful to accuse those who went to serve their country," he said. "Blame the old men who make wars — not the young men who trust." Mustgrave said that he had always wanted to be a Marine and that he would have enlisted even if the United States had not been involved in a war. "The idea of serving my country was strong in my, mind," he said. "I believed in my country. My, mind was sulted by images of glory, and I was tired of being a kid." With age and experience, however, Musgrave said he had learned to question the merits of war. WHILE IN VIETNAM he didn't know about the peace movement and the public attitude toward the war. He wasn't aware of the politics — he simply trusted his country and did his job. He simply trusted his country and did his job. But when he was shuttled into the United States under the cover of snow, winter darkness, the cold realization hit him. He was not met by bands and ticker-tape parades as were the veterans in the old World War II movies, he said. Wearing a sheet, a St Christopher's medal and bandages, he was greeted only by the snow that melted as it touched his face, still warm with the memory of the jungle heat of Vietnam. "THEY SNUB US in, in the dark," he said. "They didn't want America to think about us America was not involved in the war, he said, only the families of the young men who fought were involved. The Vietnam War was not like World War II when gas, rubber, sugar and other items were rationed, and the public was intimately involved. "After I came home, I finally got fed up with what was happening," he said. "I decided the war was a tremendous waste. I was tired of seeing bodies pile up. "I had watched friends die who screamed for their "mama." But like other Vietnam veterans, Musgrave was not welcome in the peace movement. Although his disillusion with the war and his pride in being a Marine conflicted, he became a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War for a few years. "I was opposed to the war — I still am," Musgrave said. THE MEMORY OF the treatment he received upon returning home and the stigma attached to fighting an unpoppular war still pains him. Like a cat, he was mournful. Musgrave was insulted, spat on and ridiculed. "Simply because you serve your country doesn't mean you get off on killing people. Musgrave remembers how desperately he wanted to be 19 and then how he thought he was not. He felt that I should go back. "I did what I did, and I live with it — not all of it was good." "I don't take anything for granted," he said. "I don't take my next breath for granted. When I was shot I knew I was dying, and everyone around me knew I was dying." A slogan his buddies and he used in the bush expresses the value he now places on life, he said: "You've never lived until you've nearly died." AMONG THE MANY awards he has received along the way are the Liege Medal, Universite de Liege, 1555; the Apollo Achievement Award, NASA, 1699; the National Medical of Science, USA, 174; and the Eddington Medal, Royal Astronomical Society, London, 177. II, the focus of Fowler's research has been the origins of elements in stellar surfaces. Fowler explains his work in nuclear astrophysics, for which he has gained such praise, in a lecture first given to Caltech Trustees, January 15, 1984: continued from p.1 Fowler "What we do in Kellogg is duplicate one-a-time the nuclear processes which occur at incredible rates in the sun and other stars. We study the processes which generate energy in the solar interior and produce the sunlight which makes all life on earth possible. "We study the processes which produce all of the elements beyond helium in earlier generations." These earlier generations of stars were in existence in the galaxy before our solar system was born. In their deaths, either as red giants or starry cores into space newly synthesized heavier elements. "Outside of hydrogen, your body consists mainly of carbon and oxygen with a smattering of rarer, heavier elements, all produced in stars. Thus it is possible to say that you and your neighbor and I, each of us and all of us are truly and literally a little bit of stardust." THIS BRANCH OF nuclear physics again defies the stereotype of the physicist lying in bed theorizing about the expansion of the universe. This is laboratory physics, not theoretical physics. "Work in a lab is more like what a common laborer does than even what a businessman does." Fowler says. "You work with your hands, you get dirty. You have to get your kicks out of using your hands. It's hard work and long hours of observation." IN A RECENT edition of the Oread, Fowler is quoted as saying that nuclear astrophysics is a "benign application when compared to nuclear reactors and bombs." This benign application does have validity, however, even though it may have no direct purpose. "I admit it may sound corry." Fowler says, "but my belief is that human beings have intellectual needs as well as physical. That's what distinguishes the human species from other species — in Matthew, it's 'Man does not live by bread alone.' "It's important to understand where carbon and oxygen come from and what powers the sun. It's important to know where the basic energy of life comes from." Fowler is a man concerned with the better part of mankind, the thinking, non-destructive part. It is instructive that such an ornament scientist may be remembered as something other than that. Or, as he says in his Caltech Trustees lecture: "In Kellogg, we are dedicated to the satisfaction of mankind's intellectual and cultural needs. If indirectly and eventually we help solve mankind's physical and social problems, so much the better." And a Pittsburgh Pirates fan? "ALL MY COLLEAGUES and students call me Willie," he says. "I'm rather proud of that. I'd rather be known as a friendly human being than a Nobel Prize winner." "Yes, get the Pirates in there." Senate must approve the budget by April 27 Senate rules empower StudEx or the student body president to recommend that the Senate remove students from committees. Removal requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate. StudEx rejected the groups' request to remove the Finance Committee members by a vote of 5-4, and agreed to recommend that the Senate allow the members to remain on the committee Vogel said she had not decided whether to recommend that the four leave the committee. The Senate will meet at 7 p.m. in the Kansas Room of the Kansas Union to consider the issue. ... of the Kansas Union to consider the issue Shater said that as members of the Freedom Coalition in last fall's Senate elections, the four members had said they would oppose financing GLSOK. the coalition were elected, they would "terminate funding specific groups and projects that are viewed as morally insupportable by a substantial segment of the student body." RUTH LICHTWARDT, president of GLSKO, said that during GLSKO's budget presentation last week, the four members had asked questions unrelated to the budget, such as the suicide rate of homosexuals and the possibility of homosexuals forcing their lifestyles on others. In an editorial column in the Kansan in November, Steve Bergstrom, Freedom Coalition presidential candidate, said that if members of She said that Smith, one of the Freedom Coalition members, had asked her to provide a list of names. After Smith's request, the committee voted to ask for lists from all student organizations but later rescinded the vote. Kerri Hunter, a member of GLSOK and of Praxis, said that GLSOK had been damaged by the request. The turnout at a GLSOK dance after an article about the possible request of lists in the Kansan was a little more than half the usual attendance. Smith said he had asked for the list because he was unsure of the accuracy of its membership card. IN ITS BUDGET request, GLSOK said it had 40 active members and 450 semi-active. Shafer said that by discriminating against certain groups, the committee members would impede the diversity of student groups on campus. SMITH SAID THAT he supported diversity of ideas on campus but that he didn't think any particular sexual practice should be debated publicly. 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