INSIDE: CAREERS AND KU
University Daily Kansan, October 26, 1983
Page 18
ROTC benefits help students finance education
By JOHN SIMONSON Staff Reporter
Staff Reporter
Many people old enough to remember the unpopularity of U.S. military programs on college campuses during the Vietnam War might now be surprised at the Reserve Officers Training Corps' success in attracting young people to military careers.
To those involved in ROTC at the University of Kansas, the increases in program enrollments can be attributed to two main factors: fading memories of campus life and, to some extent, recent economic hardships.
About 460 people participate in KU Air Force, Army, Navy and Marine ROTC programs, an increase of 100 from two years ago. All programs offer military leadership training and officer status upon graduation to students who might want to serve in the armed forces.
The programs also can be a way to help ease the high cost of college education.
EACH BRANCH OF military service offers competitive scholarships of varying time lengths, and to advanced program participants, each offers guaranteed $100 monthly stipends for living expenses. These benefits are in means of college education to someone who otherwise might not be able to afford one.
When pressed for their explanations of ROTC's recent gain in acceptance by college students, KU military recruitment officers point to a new wave of patriotism but also recognize the weight of the dollar.
"Part of it is the economy," Army Capt. Jim Moon said. "I think that's the had some influence I feel, personally that it's due to the lessening of feelings around me. I looked at in a better light than it was 10 years ago."
LU. Ted Beidler, who recruits for the Navy and Marines, goes one step further in acknowledging the financial factor.
"I really think the economy is the big effect," he said. "When there are five other people besides you in the placement center, the Navy becomes another alternative."
But Air Force Capt. Curtis Hall rejects the idea that the economy has much effect on new recruits
"IT'S NOT AS powerful an influence as some people would have it," he said. "Kansas has not felt the crunch the way other parts of the country have."
the crash the boy was in.
"I think the big thing is the distance, time-wise,
from Vietnam. The young person in the corps today is a patriot."
The ROTC provides national scholarships to those who qualify. All branches offer full four-year scholarships as well as full awards based on the amount of school a student has remaining. Applicants compete on a point system for the awards.
"Individuals are looked at as a whole person." Moon said. "Their GPA and test scores are looked at. There is an interview question, and we look at their leadership abilities, whatever they may be."
SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENTS must fulfill a four-year active duty service obligation upon graduation but have a year to decide whether they want to continue in ROTC before signing a service contract. This can be accomplished with each of the scholarships to go to school free for one year and then drop out of the program.
According to KU officials, this type of activity usually happens at 'name school' like MIT, Penn and St. John's.
"MIT has 300 people in the (Air Force) program, but they commission the same number of officers that the Air Force has."
that we do. Even those people without scholarships gain monetary benefits from ROTC when they enter the advanced program, usually in their junior year. At that time, the student is eligible for $100 a month living expenses during the school year.
EACH PARTICIPANT IS also paid for attending basic and advanced camps during the summer, as well as for traveling to and from those camps. Military science course books, class materials and uniforms are also free. The only requirements to stay in camp are good standing at K1 and participation in ROTC.
Moon said the benefits were not particularly significant to those involved.
significantly don't think we have that many advanced cadets in it strictly for the money," Moon said. "One hundred dollars is not that much money anymore."
10OTC participants confirmed Moon's statement and returned to the patriotic theme when discussing their motives for participating in the program.
"YOU PUT IN MORE than you take out in money," said Neil Duncanson, Fairbanks, Alaska, senior and a cadet major in the Air Force. "I'm from an Air Force unit, quite patriotic. I have a desire to serve my country."
Army Cadet Staff Sergeant John Houston, McPherson sophomore, also disputes the importance of the monetary benefits.
"I if wanted money, I could make more by getting a job," he said. "I decided a long time ago to go to the Army."
Murl Dee Munger, a recent graduate from KU's Reserve Officers Training Corps, used the financial benefits of the program to help pay for his education. ROTC leaders at the University of Kansas say that the economy may be responsible for a surge in the number of ROTC students.
"It's a job. It's what you're doing," he said, "and I believe in what the United States is doing."
Army Cadet Sergeant Tom Trossen, Overland Park
sohomore, agreed.
Law graduates discover jobs outside traditional legal field
By ROBIN PALMER Staff Reporter
Although the number of law students and law graduates entering the job market continues to increase, placements are limited. Probably will not become saturated
Many students, she said, are using their degrees to supplement their work in university.
Maggie Carter, director of the placement center for the School for Law, said law graduates now were employed in jobs and jobs in areas other than large firms.
"I don't agree that we're turning out too many lawyers," she said, "especially with the expansion to other fields."
TODD THOMPSON, WHO graduated from the KU School of Law in 1982 and is now an attorney with Barber, Emerson, Six, Springer and Zinn of Lawrence, agreed that a law degree could be helpful in other fields.
Society needs people with more knowledge of the law, he said. "There are a lot more people getting a law practice that is conceptually practiced." Thompson said.
Emil Tonkovich, chairman of the placement committee and professor of law, said he thought the saturation problem was being blown out of promotion.
The top one-fourth of the law class can get the kind of job it wants, he said, while the bulk of the class can at least take up part of the work or move on to its preferred position.
HE ALSO SAD that admissions to the law school at the University of Kansas were leveling off and that the quality of students was going up. In the last three years he says he has seen dramatic increases in the Law School
Jobs are tight because of economic reasons, Tonkovich said, but students with law degrees can find jobs in fields other than law.
Admissions Test scores for KU students, even though national figures do not reflect an improvement.
"I'm more optimistic than most because there are a lot of areas that people with a law degree can go other than a large firm," Tonkovki said.
A total of 83.7 percent of the 1982 law graduates were employed and placed through the school's placement center. Of those not placed, 4.2 percent did not get a job and 57.4 percent were still seeking employment at the time the statistics were compiled.
OUT OF THOSE that were employed, 56.6 percent joined a firm or went into practice by themselves, 5.6 percent were employed by a governmental agency and 7.5 percent had federal or state clerkships. The remaining 30.3 percent worked banking, accounting firms, legal services, city and county prosecutors.
Carter said that the 1983 statistics would not be available for two weeks but that the figures would show an increase in outside贴面, consistent with the trend
Carter said she thought that law school graduates would continue to be successful.
Many graduates are moving out of state which further increases their employability.
Moreover, Carter said, as KU graduates move to Oklahoma, Texas, southern California and northern Illinois, more KU students can find jobs there.
THE LAW SCHOOL placement center continues to emphasize applying a law school degree to other careers. For example, employees of the center are required to demonstrate their presence of opportunities in non-traditional businesses and government agencies.
The placement committee and the faculty work together to provide information and seminars on resumes, career opportunities, and career opportunities for students.
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