Page 2 University Daily Kansan Friday. Nov. 4, 1955. Opinion Varies On Peace Pact Opinions of University of Kansas students concerning the signing of another peace pact with Kansas State College varied yesterday following a visit by Wildcat pranksters. A KU student interviewer received the following answers to the question, "In view of the campus this morning do you think that KU should sign/another peace pact with K-State"?; Jaque Kimmel, Hiawatha senior: "I think it's kind of useless. It never seems to work." Jayne Allen, Topeka freshman: "I think it would be a very good idea to eliminate the unnecessary work which has resulted from a few silly pranksters." Karen Hansen, Hutchinson senior: "Who cares about a little paint? I think it's kind of fun." William Behrman, Lawrence graduate student: "I think so. It is an act of mutual friendship between the two schools even if it isn't binding with the whole student body." Jenny Chaney, Kansas City, Mo., freshman: "Yes. I see no reason why we shouldn't. Evidently it doesn't do any good but I don't see too much damage done." Ronald M. Barnes, carilloneur, "Those peace pacts are farces anyway. I'll bet a lot of this painting was done by high school students or KU people. Those peace pacts are about as effective as international peace pacts and history has proven how effective they are." Babette Cooper, Kinsley, Mo., senior: "The K-State—KU peace pact seems to leave room for improvement. I think it is hard to say it is a complete failure, though. It may have a restraining effect. How well does KU live up to the pact?" Joanne Thompson, Kansas City, Kan., freshman: "I think the workmen get kind of tired of cleaning the place. It might help, but the same people would probably do it again." "I HELPED HIM WITH HIS HOMEWORK—DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS A DEMONSTER STUDENT" Zoe Ann Kelley, Pratt freshman: "I don't see what good it's going to do. What will it accomplish if no one pays any attention to it? The spirit between KU and K-State can't be squelched, but it shouldn't be so destructive." Phyllis Williams, Fort Scott senior: "No. If they can't keep it, there is no use signing it." Martha Crowley, Pittsburg freshman: "I think that the peace pact is definitely useless after viewing the handwork of some K-Staters last night. If one or both parties concerned can't abide by it, then what's the use in having it at all?" Arlene Weaver, Topeka freshman: "I think they should sign another and I think we should find some way to enforce it." My wife Hallelujah and I were disappointed to get only 97 cents from the auction of our Football Pickin' Contest prizes last week. The ping-pong balls and the canoe paddles went fast, but nobody cared anything about the cement mixer. We have since been using it as a clothes washer and are looking nice and clean—though a bit tattered about the edges. To celebrate the installation of roll-call pushbuttons in the state House of Representatives (You never know, but anything which leaves more time for serious lawmaking might somehow contribute to more regular delivery of state pay-checks) we spent a dime this afternoon on one of the new beverages now on sale in the Strong Hall basement—hot water. If you are lucky you can get a cup of hot water by putting your ten cents in the Hot Chocolate slot. We think it would be better, though, if instead of serving it as a surprise drink, the operator of the machine (who would have gotten Hallelujah's vote for Da Biggest Bum) could offer it as a real choice, labeling it Eau a la vapeur, for example. Yours for more gracious living, Mr. Wispy Southern Illinois University diggers claim to have unearthed evidences of an Indian culture 2,000 years old, in a cornfield four miles west of Buncombe. Barnum, if living, would have urged pushing the diggings eastward from there, but modern science does not err. by Dick Bibler ... Letters ... Editor: 1. ) Apparently I am engaging in double-talk in both praising the late theater program under Dr. John Newfield for its experimentation, et al, on the other hand castigating it for shunning student talent. Come now, Mr. Herman! Is the world as really all black and white as that? And I did specifically mention the good points of that program under the prefacing phrase "in all fairness" to Dr. Newfield, . . . Moreover, Mr. Herman seems to prosecute me for praising the good doctor and then labors the point of defense that the former University Theatre director was not to blame or even involved in the "one specific casting offense" I cited. Who's "double-talking" now, Prof? No surprise was engendered in this quarter upon belatedly reading my good friend George Herman's reply in the Oct. 13 issue of the Kansan to my original letter praising the apparent current University Theatre policy of pulling an almost unheard-of stunt at KU, actually casting student actors in student plays. It seems unfortunate that an instructor of English must resort to mild sarcastic ridicule—i.e., references to my "neat piece of journalistic double-talk" and "so poorly conceived a letter"—for the substance of his refutation. But what else is there in his letter to effectively declaim my main thesis? Just this: 2. ) Whether or not the new policy, and particularly this year's bill of fare, will revitalize the University Theatre 'remains to be seen, doesn't it?' Mr. Herman asks. Is our English instructor here suggesting in all seriousness that one should refrain from appraising any proposed program until it becomes an accomplished fact? Moreover the selected list of this year's plays provides a concrete basis of analysis, as stated. 3. ) Mr. Herman concludes by pointing out "an important error of fact" in my letter; an erroneous implication that the casting of a Lawrence radio announcer, a complete outsider, in the male lead of "The Lady's Not For Burning" took place under Dr. Newfield's reign. Mr. Herman is quite right here, and I am indebted for his public correction of my error. However, it was an honest mistake, made without benefit of reference material. But the fact remains that this grievance did occur, although a year earlier, and still stands as a bizarre example of the old policy throughout this period. Its chronological origin is, after all, a minor point. And that's it. Glaringly obvious is the fact that Mr. Herman has failed completely to come to real grips with the main issue at hand; the non-utilization of student acting talent for several years before the arrival of Dr. Lewin Goff. Many more "specific casting offenses" can be dragged up from the general period 1950-53. Almost every major role in "The Madwoman of Chaillot" was held down by a faculty member of the speech and drama department. The madwoman herself was portrayed by Mrs. Allen Crafton; a complete outsider was also present in this cast. In fact the only production for almost three years which truly could be called a student enterprise was the well-done "You Can't Take It With You." Mr. Herman is quick to point the accusing finger to my "important error of fact." However, his letter commits the even greater moral sin of an all-important error of omission. Mr. Herman appeared prominently himself in "The Lady's Not for Burning." Mr. Herman is a faculty member. Mr. Herman, therefore, has a personal egg to crack in this discussion which, it seems to us, should in all fairness be placed before the unsuspecting reader. However, I reiterate my personal convictions on this subject of the faculty's horning in on sacred student territory, and will attack whatever department or school involved whenever appears this fruitless form of educational incest. Sgt. Jerry Knudson Operation Sagebrush, Camp Polk, La. Daily Hansan University of Kansas Student Newspaper News Room, KU 251, Ad Room, KU 376 Member of the Inland Daily Press association. Associated Collegiate Press association. Represented by the National Admission Office. Mail subscription rates: $3 a semester or $4.50 a year (add $1 a semester if in Iowa). Mail subscription rates: Lawrence Kaupia, every afternoon during Lawrence University diversity year except Saturdays and Sundays. University holidays and examination periods. Entered as second class student. Exposed to 17 classes. Mail office under act of March 3, 1879. NEWS DEPARTMENT John Herrington ... Managing Editor Madelyn Brite, Greetchen Irineu, Irene C. Six, Lee Ann Urban, Assistant Manager Bob Lyle, Assistant City Editor Bob Lyle, Assistant City Editor K. Walt, Telegraph Editor; Marion McCoy, Society Editor; Jane Peele, Editor; John McIlmon, Sports Editor; John McMillion, Sports Editor; L. Lones, Assistant Sports Editor. EDUTORIAL DEPARTMENT Ron Cohen Editorial Editor Ted Blankenship Editor BUSINESS DEPARTMENT Paul Bunge ... Business Manager Robert Wolfe, Advertising Manager; Charles Sledd, National Advertising Manager; Jack Fisher, Circulation Manager. Nadine's Loyal; Students Aren't Oh, balderdash, loyal Nadine Long Moore, class of '29, you know as well as we do the only good cheering at the SMU-KU fracas was that of a few rugged individualists with gargantuan voices. The rest were yelling so hard they were staying cool on that unseasonably warm day. Granted, KU has grown larger, but student voices have very definitely grown smaller. Did you know there wasn't a single rally held prior to the Nebraska game on the KU campus? And yes, we must let the "boys" on the field know we're proud of them. But gosh, dear me, how can we when our meager voices are drowned out by the roar of the visiting cheering sections and those dear little brats from Lawrence high school? Oh. dear me. where did that spirit go? Of course, if you are a regular reader of our student publication, you will recall that a similar request was made to have our once famous Rock Chalk cheer at the end of the game. But the appeal apparently fell on deaf ears. Ah yes, there have been many changes since you departed from your alma mater. The band no longer hoots and hollers, the pep clubs no longer play fantastic instruments, and students no longer cheer. But one thing for sure, the Campanile bells will continue to toll the time. --Sam Jones Archie's Cousin Suggests Cat Food Cousin Superior, who was bounced from South Central Grasslands S.T.C. for vandalism, thinks he has a neat plan. He says the local sportsmen, led by their "spokesman," should show their school spirit by offering themselves as sustenance for Touchdown IV. It would be a gesture acceptable in the spirit in which it is offered—and cheap too. He says they could get themselves chewed out by their deans and housemothers, dipped in B. & G. paint remover, and minced. That would give them a "clean bill of health." Then if feeding time were announced in advance, we could all make a sort of pep rally of it; watching the boys go down ought certainly to "liven the students up." He says it would be an awful nice way of doing something suitable for all the student bodies concerned—and for Touchdown IV. And it would save the boys the high cost of feeding the cat. Archibald Dome This is the first time that the IFPC has promoted a service activity and it is gratifying to see the council take an interest in doing something besides staging stag parties. More of the many campus organizations should follow this lead and do something other than meet and elect officers. The 150 pledges who did the leg work of collecting the $1,700 represented 17 University fraternities. Mapping out and assigning collection areas in the stadium was a night's work for Bill Crow, Logan senior, Inter-Fraternity Council adviser to IFPC, and James B. Lowe, Winfield senior, IFC president. Larry Heil The Inter-Fraternity Pledge Council served the University and the nation's athletes by collecting money for the Olympic Fund at the Southern Methodist game and as far as recognition is concerned, no one seemed to care. The pledges didn't do it for publicity, but they certainly deserve a word of credit. Grandpop wonders how his schoolmates in the red schoolhouse used to be so rosy-cheeked and healthy with only their home-supplied lunch baskets, before Uncle Sam started handing out $67,010,000 a year to operate the school lunch program. Since thickets grown on their manly chests see into detract nothing from feminine admiration of so many beach Adonises, it's reasonable to agree with the New York Labor Department's ruling that there's nothing "inherently repulsive" about lifeguards raising beards. IFPC Deserves Olympic Work Credit