Shultz will not release names
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David Miller, Eudora junior, who requested to appear before the committee, spoke in protest of the release.
Miller stressed he was "not defending personalities but defending the relationship between the state Legislature and the University."
"This committee did its work after the University made its commitment to the students," he said, "if the University has committed itself, the Legislature should set the policy but not reverse its decision."
Miller, who helped quel last spring's demonstration, told the legislators he feared the precedent that would be set if the names were released.
"It would be impossible for the University to function . . ." he said, "or the Legislature to do anything else but run the University."
He said the disruption was a University affair and the disciplinary action of suspension was "very harsh."
He also emphasized this would be the first time any names of disciplined students would be released.
Sen. Jack W. Robinson, R-Wichita argued that keeping the names private would show favoritism to the 21.
Sen. H. E. Pat Healy, R-Wichita, explained the committee's action was based more on interest in "the 16,000 students who go to the University than the 79 who conducted themselves in a manner that deserved suspension."
The position of the University in handling student protests is defined in Senate Concurrent Resolution No. 18.
Referred to as a "watered down version of what we wanted" by Robinson, the resolution was
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passed before the May disruption.
"Maybe it's time for a change." Healy said in reference to its effectiveness.
Sen. Edward F. Reilly Jr., R-Leavenworth, gave several reasons why he opposed the action including loss of the students' draft status and the University Disciplinary Board penalties are "more stringent than any civil court."
A KU alumnus, the senator supported David Miller by stating the Legislature, by discussing the names, showed its distrust in the Board of Regents as an administrative body.
Sen. Tom West, R-Topeka, argued that without the names, the committee does not have the facts with which to discuss Senate Bill No. 207.
The bill, introduced by Sen. Charles E. Hinchey, D-Kansas City, denies state financial aid to any student convicted of participating in disturbances and requires him to pay back any aid given him before conviction.
The discussion of this bill, said Robinson, is the only legal way the committee could meet and obtain the names.
During the meeting, Reilly stated it (the committee meeting) was "the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in six years in the Senate" and was denied a request to leave before voting.
After the committee adjourned, Shultz said although his efforts had been defeated, he plans no further action. He said he thought the committee's prime reason for not allowing the release was the students had already been punished enough.
He wants the names released now because, "during the demonstration, the students wanted recognition . . . people should know who they are, so an injunction can be enforced if similar disruptions occur again."
The KU chapter of the College Republicans (CR) have condemned Kansas Republican Representatives Larry Winn and Keith Sebelius for their support of an escalation of the Vietnam war.
KU Republicans condemn Winn, Sebelius action
The CR (formerly the Collegiate Young Republicians) challenged Winn and Sebelius with "aligning themselves with a policy that is designed not to achieve an acceptable settlement in Vietnam, but designed to bring the country of North Vietnam to its knees, without regard to the civilian population of that country."
Frank Cook, Gardner senior and second vice-chairman of the CR, said the group was "shocked" to discover that the two Kansas Representatives would "abandon all reasonable paths to peace."
Moratorium
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A teach-in at 2:45 p.m. at Hoch Auditorium sponsored by the Law Students Civil Rights Research Council, will feature distinguished speakers from the Schools of Law and Social Work and from the departments of economics and human development and family life.
Later today, at 7:30 p.m. at Ellsworth Hall, six professors and a student will participate in a panel discussion on the war. They are: Felix Moos, professor of anthropology; Arthur Katz, dean of the School of Social Welfare; Harry G. Shaffer, professor of economics; Robert McColl, associate professor of geography; Herman P. Lujan, associate professor of political science, Rayburn Lancaster, professor of Air Force ROTC, and Gary Adams, Bartlesville, Okla., special student.
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sire for peace. But they haven't
responded. I think stopping the
bombing in the North was a
mistake, and the war has not been
managed properly from the start.
"It's probably too late to start bombing again, but if Nixon wanted to, and there was no alternative, he would get support in Congress. But right now he is deescalating, and that's fine," Winn said.
Winn said many congressmen, including himself, are opposed to the National Moratorium, and the timing of the letter was intended to present another side.
"The people organizing the moratorium are mostly those who were opposed to Nixon in last year's election. They are trying to brand this war as Nixon's war, and the purpose of the Moratorium was to embarrass Nixon.
"What we can't understand is the fact that the Moratorium, just like all the anti-war demonstrations, is carefully watched by Hanoi. Hanoi gets the impression we are on our knees and this makes it difficult to negotiate with them. They feel if Americans continue to bitch at Nixon, they can win. Hanoi is 100 per cent behind the Moratorium, and several reports of the support were read on the House floor tonight during the debate on the moratorium," Winn said.
Nixon will not be swayed by demonstrations or similar pressure, Winn said. He said the President knows more about the situation than anyone in the country, and college students should recognize the fact.
"College students protesting the war aren't practical about the situation. There are many facets to the complete story. College students often fly off the handle and are easily swayed by their emotions. For example, they call for an immediate withdrawal by 1970. From a strictly physical standpoint, military leaders have said logistically it would be impossible to withdraw 500,000 troops in less than 10 to 12 months.
"Even if we did withdraw our troops to the beaches, the Viet Cong would sweep through Saigon, killing everybody in sight, including all the troops sitting on the beaches. Some say they wouldn't do that, but they forget about the terrorism of the Viet Cong. They've done stuff like that before. But college students don't think about the thousands of women and children slaughtered in Hue. The college students are playing with a big ball of fire, and I don't think they know it," Winn said.
"Of the 139 Republican representatives in the House, only nine are supporting the moratorium, and only five GOP senators support it. Most of the pro-moratorium debate on the House floor now is being presented by Democrits." Winn said.
Winn said support for the Moratorium in the House was split basically down party lines.
There will be no legislative action taken concerning the Moratorium, Winn said.
Winn said he doubts another follow-up letter will be written. He did say other congressmen may draft similar letters, and he will explain his position in a newsletter to his constituents.
More Mexicans
MEXICO CITY (UPI)—At the time of the Mexican Revolution—1910-1918—223 of every 1,000 Mexican infants died, and the average Mexican's life expectancy was 27 years, according to Dr. Ramon Alvarez of the federal health department.
In 1968, the infant mortality rate was 9.2 per thousand, and the life expectancy had increased to 61 years, Alvarez said. The combination has more than tripped the population per square mile of the nation in the past 50 years, he said.
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