Crisp Partly cloudy and continued quite cool through Friday. Scattered sprinkles possible tonight. Friday and Friday about 35, low tight near 35. Ten cent chance of precipitation today and Friday. Election Analysis THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN The University of Kansas-Lawrence, Kansas Thursday, October 29, 1970 See Page 5 81st Year, No.43 Replacement Of Agnew Is Denied WASHINGTON (UPI)—Murray Chaitner, President Nixon's longtime political strategist, Wednesday called speculation that Vice President Spiro T. Agnew might be dropped from the 1972 presidential ticket "wisful thinking on the part of his energies." "I have never heard anyone inside the White House even suggest such a thing," said Chafier, a White House adviser who has been criticized for plan Xion strategy ever since Nixon's 1968 visit. Kansan Staff Photo by STEVE FRITZ Chotinee discounted claims that Agnew's attacks on GOP Sen. Charles E. Goodell of New York as a "radical liberal" who had deserted his party had produced dissension within the party and unhappiness with Agnew. Moreover, Chotin emphasized that Agnew was "held in very high regard" by the President, particularly for the way he had performed on the campaign trail. "I don't know of a single state GOP chairman who did not want him (Agnew) to come into their state," Chotner told UPL. "I there's any question that his popularity will be the party is quite high. There have been many demands on his time than he can meet." Dedicating Convocation to People Who Were Not There fill Elbert ask for 50 percent student attendance The latest "Dump Agnew" talk grew out of a political column in the Washington Post in response to Broder speculated that Nixon might drop a former favor of a younger running mate in 1972. Chatterel said that anti-Agnew sentiment came from the politically liberal community that was more likely to support him. ... Bill Ebert asks for 50 per cent student representation Meeting Backs 50% Student Vote By DAN EVANS Kansan Staff Writer Nearly 700 people crowded into Woodford Auditorium Wednesday afternoon for an ail student convoction and most voiced their support for 50 per cent student representation on University of Kansas policy-making committees. The convocation was called by the Student Senate Executive Committee in response to the University Senate repeal of required student representation on committees. Ebert asked how many students favored 50 per cent student representation on University courses. Bill Ebert, Topek senior and student body president, led the meeting. Richard Louw, Wichita state and Rick Von Able, Enbale who spoke, to the conversation at *Bert's* request. Although no formal count was taken, about 95 per cent of the students in Woodruff voted in favor of the 50 per cent representation, Ebert said. EBERT SAID PETTIONS would be circulated beginning Friday for students to sign to indicate their support for 50 per cent student representation on committees. In its meeting last Thursday, the University senate approved a motion repealing a regulation that required at least 20 per cent student representation on University policy boards and required a vote to repeal the regulation was submitted by Gorton, dean of the School of Fine Arts. During the convocation a sign was given to Ebert that read "Tippacene and Gorton too." 51-49 or fight." The "51-49 or fight" was a reference to a slogan that calls for 51 per cent motivation by students on committees and 49 per cent representation by faculty members. Ebert opened the convocation by saying, "Perhaps we should dedication this convoction to the people who aren't here, both faculties and faculty, that the people who are most severely enlanted." LOUV SAID STUDENTS must change the consciousness of the University. A change of teaching methods would students would no longer let someone else determine for them what their set of academic values were. He said students had to know that their teachers if students were not learning. Louv said the 20 per cent issue would have to be used as a stepping stone to discussion of what KU has to do with the rest of the world and with the individual student. "We've been told by that ethic to give us apple," Louv said, "but they've been forced to eat it." Ebert said, "Fifty per cent student representation is as close to the real issue as we can get, but it, in itself, is not the real issue. You are going to have to be able to answer this question for yourself because someone else will, is how long we as students are going to continue to stagnate in the job market." "I this is to be called a movement," Louise says. "The movement is actually a movement. Perhaps they're niggers slaves to an ethic that must be changed, an ethic that only encourages the generation." VON ENDE PRESENTED the background of how the regulation for 20 student teachers will be implemented. plained that when the Senate Code was approved in 1968, it allowed greater student representation on committees. But the committees that allowed student represent- ment Ende said, were committees that did not affect the academic policies of the University. He said it became apparent last year that students should be represented on policy making committees. Von Ende helped write a report for the cent student representation regulation. The regulation was passed by the University Council when the Senate could not get a quorum to conduct business. Von Ende described the repeal of the regulation as an incredible display of parliamentary procedure. "Twenty per cent doesn't seem like a monolithic takeover," V ende said. Von Ende said education was a personal thing, not an assembly line procedure. The receipt of a diploma, Von Ende said, is an assembly line procedure. Education, he said, means that students must have some voice in it. If students are to have a voice in their own education, he said, "We need to give the people a voice in policy-making committees of the University." THE LARGE NUMBER of people attending the convocation made it impossible to seat everyone in chairs. All four aides leading the convocation all four aides were filled with people sitting on the floor, and the sides of the auditorium were lined with people standing because of the lack of space. The hall outside the auditorium and the staircase leading to the lobby of the Union were filled with people during the convocation. The loudspeakers in the hall outside of Woodruff were turned on so that the people out there could hear what was being said inside. After Ebert, Louv and Von Ende spoke, the meeting was opened to questions. One person asked why only 50 per cent student representation was being called for when the students represented a larger majority of the university community. Ebert said the current ratio on the University Senate was about 11 faculty members to each student. He said professors, associate professors and those assistant professors who have tenure were eligible to vote in the Senate. Ebert said that if all of the student senators have attended the Senate meeting last Thursday, the Senate regulation would not have been repealed. He said he was being made to publicize the names of those student senators who had missed several meetings and to replace them with other students. DURING THE QUESTION period, many people expressed the idea that student senators should be more concerned with what the Senate was doing and should attend more seminars. Yet most of them said that many senators had not been attending meetings and that this affected votes in the Senate. He agreed with the idea that students should have more voice than 56 percent representation. Any student that thinks his student senator is not doing a proper job, Ebert can force "I can't answer that one," Ebert said. a special election by collecting signatures from 15 per cent of the students in the senator's school or college. He said when the signatures were turned in with a petition calling for a special election, the Student Senate would call one. Another person asked how far the Student Senate or any other student organization was willing to take the issue if the 50 per cent student representation was defeated by the Senate. Ebert said he could not answer that but it was up to the students. AFTER THE QUESTION period was AFTER THE QUESTION period was conducted, Von Ende made a closing statement. He said students talked about the archaic requirements such as foreign language and would like to repeat the only phrase that he received from his foreign language, Latin. "This is not a movement which can be engineered by 15 or 20 students. But rather, this is a feeling that we must bring to the surface of ourselves," he said. The phrase was "Illegitimati non cargurum." Kansas Union Speech He said the translation was roughly "Don't let the bastards get you down." Frizzell Rips Drug Use, Asks Support of Laws Kent Fritzness, Republican gubernatorial candidate, endorsed arrests for drug abuse, kick festivals and increased funds for higher education. A night in an address in the Kansas Union. Frizzil said he favored strict enforcement of the present drug abuse laws but said he wanted it remembered that he supported the change in Kansas law that made possession of marijuana a misdemeanor, not a felony. He also worried that he favored revelation of the existing drug laws should act in a positive way, such as running for political office. "There are certain subcultures that engage in illegal activity and they should be dealt with," he said. "Even if the law is wrong, it should be enforced." "I'm not about to legalize marijuana. Everything I've read about it says that 90 per cent or better of those on hard drugs began with marijuana." FRIZZLE SAID he thought it repressive to prohibit rock festivals. "You're in one," yelled a spectator. Fritzell said that if people complied with state statutes at rock festivals, they should "ride on." When the question of how he felt about funds for higher education arose, Frizzell replied, "I voted for every method for higher education in Kansas in my four years on the Wichita school board. With the money available, I'd put higher education on the top of the list." Frizell said that when State Sen. Reynolds Shultz, a candidate for lieutenant governor, spoke his (Shultz)' statement about Rick Dowdell's death, "He does not speak for the Republican party and he would be the first to admit it." Frizzell said he favored the National Guards' carrying live ammunitions on campuses depending on the circumstances of the time. Frizzell was asked how he felt about sex he replied, "A 41-year-old man isn't too comfortable." "If lives and property are threatened, yes, it fires; they should carry live ammunition," said Lester. When asked whether he would support George Kimball for sherif, Frizell said, "I were a resident of Dougash County, I'd vote for Rex Johnson for sheriff." However, Frizell said that if Kimbull were elected and acted to enforce the laws of Israel, he would be out of power. He said he deplored the consumption of alcohol at football games. Fritzell concluded by saying he supported the controversial supersonic transport plane. He said it didn't constitute an ecological disadvantage. Frank Burge, Kansas Union director, said he attended the attendance at rightho. 500 Kansan Photo by JIM HOFFMAN Kent Frizzell with Students in Kansas Union - "Students should draw up a code of conduct" Official: Ex-Army Man Didn't Taint Report "I don't see where it makes any differences," attorney General Paul Brown said. He and jury absolved National Guard members of blinding fire last May but indicted 25 other persons. KENT, Ohio (UPF)—The state attorney general said Wednesday that a grand jury report on the Kent State University shooting deaths was not influenced by the fact that a special prosecutor for the panel once served in the Ohio National Guard. Brown said he would not have appointed sentry Ford to aid the prosecution had he gone back. "It's been that way ever since the 'Ivory Tower' was erected." he said. Ford was one of three prosecutors appointed by Brown to aid the grant jury. He added that, until something really important came up, the faculty was for the most part disinterested in what was going on in University government. Members of Troop G, 107th Cavalry, stationed in nearby Ravenna, were among the troops who fired into a group of demonstrating students May 4 on the Kent State campus. Four students were killed and nine were wounded. However, streamlining the status quo can be a big problem because, McKinsey said, by large and the University faculty is a conservative group. Glenn Frank, a Kent State geology professor who was critical of the grand jury's report, also was cited for contempt of court. The grand jury said "no morr responsibility" for the student killings should be placed on the Kent State administration for its "permissive attitude." cited for contempt of court for commenting on the grand jury investigation, was a member of the jury. Forum on Apathy Proves Its Point By MIKE MOFFET Kansan Staff Writer In a forum on student government held in Hashinger Residence Hall Wednesday night, a panel of student leaders said the main problem in student government was apathy. It appeared to be a point well taken—12 people were in attendance. R. I. Bailey, student body vice president, Bill Ebert, student body president, Ross McKinney, professor of engineering and the University Senate Executive Committee (Senate) Josh Zhm, student member of SenxE and campus senate, the University Senate, comprised the panel. All panel members seemed to agree that the problem of apathy extended beyond the University governing bodies themselves to all the students and faculty. McKinsey said that "Communication is the number one problem." in getting people to come to activities, and also, because there are so many things going on, an additional problem arises—the student and faculty members' priorities. A MEMBER OF the audience, who is also in charge of Student Union Activities publicity, agreed, pointing out that it was easy to get involved in movies, but hard to attract someone to formula. "The University has become over- "structured in government," McKinney said, and suggested that the existing structure needed to be redesigned to make it a more efficient vehicle for change. "The faculty wants to be questioned on the major issues, and not be bothered with the details." HE ILLUSTRATED that situation by recalling the reaction from faculty members he got as a member of Sendx after it was introduced. He would consider the "day of alternatives" plan. Ebert pointed to the University Senate's recent action in repealing 29 per cent student representation on University Committees as a response to the changes in admission change. However, all of the student members of the panel also labeled student apathy just as much of a problem. "The Student Senate is run by about 25 people," said Ebert. He confessed that he wasn't sure why. He said the problem could be that other senators felt like outsiders in the senate, or it could be that they just didn't care. Zlim said that a University committee was holding hearings on changes in the grading system and that it had been poorly attended. And McKinney said that as a result of that, the graduate would be involved in changes in the grading system affecting the whole University. Baleh echoed the student apathy theme by mentioning that only three students showed up at a recent Student Senate Finance and possible choices in the student activity fee scheme. The consensus seemed to be that although there were many things that the University governing structure could accomplish, the problems of apathy and resistance to change made the pace so slow that gains would be few and far between. Kansas Photo by DOUG SCHEFFNER "Student Government Representation Needs More Student Interest" Ross McKinney, SonEx member, blames 20 per cent rule to student apathy