4 THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN 82nd Year. No. 57 The University of Kansas—Lawrence Kansas Wednesday, November 17, 1971 Kansan Photo by ROBERT BURCH Two Dollars' Worth of Bus Riders Company needs $8 an hour Grading Won't End, Says Heller Bv JOE COLEMAN and JOYCE DUNBAR Kansan Staff Writer There is no planned progression from credit-no credit to the abolition of grades, Francis Heller, vice chancellor for economic affairs, said in an interview last week. Heller said he felt that there was no great desire among students to abolish grades and that there was a lack of incentive without grades. The credit-to-credit option provides an opportunity for students to elect to take a course without receiving a grade in the required course. Students can compare students, however, Heller said. The University of Kansas faculty makes the rules concerning the number of courses which can be taken for credit-no credit, but at the present time, only one course may be taken at a time in this manner. HELLER SAID that there was some reluctance on the part of the faculty to state that if a student did not want to be graded, he wouldn't be graded. Heller thought that the pass-fail system, which KU formerly used, was not good psychologically. He cited this reason as a factor in his decision to accept and the present credit-no credit option. Concerning KU's academic program, Heller said that the University was far ahead of other schools. Heller said that for future matters, it might be possible for students to have the option to see what was reflected on their records at any time. The presence of the student might even be questioned. Heller thought, if it should exist at the student's option. THERE IS NO WAY of finding out what a student can do or perform. Heller said. The understanding of concepts, for example, is often much more pertinent in many subject areas. He said that the essay-type evaluation was the only effec- tive part of evaluation and that this became part of the student's learning experience. Restrictions exist for the credit-no-credit option within the different schools at KU. Students from all of Education does not allow its students in the program while the School of Business initiated the program this fall. Graduate students in courses under the credit-no-credit option Within the University, the Colleges Within the College have the highest percentage of students enrolled in credit-credit. North College leads this list, with 22 per cent of its 852 students currently enrolled under the option. SEVENTEEN PER CENT, or 609 of the 3,487 students in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, signed up for the program. In the specialty schools, the School of Jurisprudence and its 469 majors, 77 students or 16 per cent are taking courses under the order. Robert Helman, a member of the Board of Regents from Goodland, said that the headline of a story in the Kansas Monday misrepresented Mr. Heilman's views on campus. Helmand said that his stand was, "I do not choose to say whether or not this student should drink beer, but I think the fact that he did so could cause more trouble than it was worth for him to have the privilege." Regent Stand Is Clarified Credit-no credit is working for the students, instead of letting the students become a slave to credit-no credit, William Kelly, University Registrar, said Monday. Kelly made this conclusion based on a form which students selecting this option must fill out before they can be enrolled. In answerying why they enrolled in the parental enrollment program, Kelly option, 29 per cent said that they enrolled to fulfill a difficult area or course requirement. Kelly said that if these studies indicated that a lot of students should enroll in a fuller a requirement, it would cause the schools to re-evaluate their requirements. THIRTY-SEVEN PER CENT of those students answering the form indicated that they enrolled under this option to lighten the study load. To explore a new area of knowledge was the reason that 11 per cent gave when they signed up for credit-no credit. Twenty-two per cent of the students who filled out this form failed to answer the questionnaire The remaining 23 per cent cited other reasons for enrolling under this system. Reasons were that the option relieves the tension of grades, enables one to work at one's own pace, and results in benefits through the presence of self-motivating forces. IN A BREAKDOWN by classes, sophomores have the highest percentage of students taking the option. The majority of these students stated on their questionnaires that their choice was based on the need to fulfill a difficult area or course requirement or to lighten the study load. This reasoning decreases with upgrades. The many required courses which a sophomore completes before achieving eligibility for admission into a specific school can account for this high percentage. A large number of seniors said that they wanted to explore a new area of knowledge when they signed up for the credit-no credit option. Lawrence Bus Company To Quit Before January Losing Money Every Day BY LYNNE MALM Kansan Staff Writer The price of parking stickers was not raised by the University since the wage Service might be given to the campus on a limited basis during finals, Ogle said. The company always loses money during finals, since the buses are not ridden regularly, he said but it is losing money every day now. The Lawrence City Bus Company is planning to halt operation when regular classes cease for the semester at the Lawrence Bus Center, and the manager of the company, said Tuesday. To stay in business and make a minimum profit, Ocle said, 48 would have to be taken in by each bus in operation every hour. The line is quitting business since it is only making about 60 per cent of that amount per hour per bus he said. Ogle said he thought that KU officials seemed interested in helping the company by a subsidy or guaranteed income last spring. Ogle was told that part of the money obtained by the University through the sale of permanent parking sticks at a price of $25 for on-campus parking would be subsidized student transportation. When it became necessary to raise the fare from 10 to 15 cents to remain in operation, Ogle said, the company gained a few dollars for a short while but lost customers. The same result was obtained when the fees were raised from 15 to 20 cents, he said and the Lawrence City Bus Company has operated at a loss since last spring. At the rate needed for a small profit, $480 should be taken in each day in accordance with the 60 man hours put in by the drivers of the bus line each day, Ogle said. At 60 per cent of that amount, the company takes in less than $300 per day. ABOUT 500 STUDENTS rode the bus line when the fare was 10 cents in 1965. Only 1000 campus fares are collected daily at the 20-cent rate, Orule said. Fee Increase Still Under Debate and By RON WOMBLE and ROBIN GROOM Kansas STaff Writers When the Student Senate considers the Finance and Auditing Committee's recommended student activity fee increase, at least one member of the committee will vote against the raise. That member Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dave Dillon, chairman of the Dillon told members of his committee Tuesday night that although he would defend the proposed fee raise before the Student Executive Committee, he felt he was against it as a senator because of the fact that most of his constituency, the School of Business. a Student Senate representative recently who said that he would bring the matter to the floor. Committee members were not optimistic about a favorable report on their proposed fee increase coming from StudEx. Slaughter complained that "when people bear the words 'fee increase' they turn off "I guarantee they'll vote against it," said Jerry Slaughter, Leawood senior. The committee recommended a raise in the activity fee after considering a student opinion poll conducted in October. The committee decided, from those results, that the senate should attempt to maintain the status quo in student services. To do so according to the committee, would require an activity fee because of increased costs. In other action the committee contained requests by the Association of Missouri Students for the Ouence, a literary publication; The Graduate Students in Political Science, the Graduate Alliance for Students in History, the Makers and the KU Scuba Diving Club. Slaughter said the group's representative had presented so many different outcomes of function and purpose that it had become "pretty hazy" to him. The committee also recommended passage of an amendment to the by-laws of the senate that would establish guidelines for allocating funds. Committee members agreed to approve the requests of all of the other organizations except the KU Filmmakers. The Filmmakers has requested money from the senate before and committee members felt the group's many changes in direction since the first request made the group's purpose obscure. About 10 representatives of the AMAS spoke to the committee about their request for $2.350. Most of the discussion about the request was entitled "recruitment of Chicago student." Slaughter cited a "35 per cent increase in post rates last year1 as an example of The committee cut the request to $1,000 to meet with senate and state regulations. According to Kansas state statute, no state money may be used to recruit students. R. L. Bailey, chairman of the Student Executive Committee, and Brad Smoot, vice-chairman of the Senate Executive Committee, said Tuesday that with a active fee free there would be more request for organizations for recognition and funds. In a 1969 ruling the court struck down one-year residence requirements for welfare programs funded in part by the federal government. In the Montana case the welfare came entirely from county funds. The ruling said the source of the money "is irrelevant to the constitutional principles involved," including the right of poor people to travel. Chief Justice Warren Rustig argued the court should have heard argument on the issues before reaching a decision. "However," said Bailey, "the number of requests has been increasing ever since we See BUS on Page 9 Ogle told city officials that 80 per cent of the company's business came from its campus runs. Ogle received the response from the city of Lawrence that it would take over the cent of the responsibility of seeing that the company remains in business. In other actions the courts—Blocked, 2, trial of Arnold Maxwell Harris in Clark A. A. 1934 on a charge of slaying his infant son since the killing related. The decision was based on the double jeopardy provision of the Fifth Amendment. Burger and Justice Harry A. The city of Lawrence subsidized the bus company with $300 in June, $200 in July and $2000 in August. Ogle said that the city did this under the impression that KU would subsidize the bus company during the school year. Washington and was denied unemployment benefits in Cascade County in 1969 because he had not lived in Montana for at least a year. Ogle said that Chancellor E. Laurence Chalmers Jr. and other KU officials were aware that the bus company was near a shut down. He said that he had talked with He said that the senate gets money from the students and supposedly gives it to organizations, but that actually the Board is responsible for which organizations are going to be funded. He said that there would either be groups asking for more money or more money. Pettitions to fill a vacant Student Senate seat may be submitted this week by persons in Pearson College, Neila Ball, Glathe oophate, said Monday. Smoot, who has spoken for elimination of the activity fee on many occasions, said that the activity fee shouldn't be increased. Bailey has called a special meeting of StudEx to deal with the proposed activity fee a1/3 p.m. Thursday in the Regionalist Building, where she said that the meeting was open to everyone. the fee, because the option that received the second highest number of votes would eliminate all funds for student organizations. price freeze prohibited such a raise. No subsidy or guaranteed income was received by the company from KU, Ogle said. OGLE SAID THAT if KU guaranteed the bus company in an income that covered operating expenses, the company would lower on-campus fares to the 1965 price of 10 cents. Ogle thought that enough extra fares and fares would be gained at the 14-cent rate, so need to pay the bus company only a small part of the income that it would guarantee. "I's bad enough that we allocate the money," said Smoot, "but I think it is more tolerable if we do it than having student funds controlled by the Reemens." He said there were many options open including a special activity card or an IBM enrollment which would allow students to participate, that they want their money to help fund. Anyone in Pearson College is eligible to run, and the deadline for the petitions is Friday, Nov. 19. Only one signature is required on these petitions. The election is scheduled for Dec. 9. Polling places will be announced later. Smoot said that the Finance and Auditing Committee of the Student Senate had completely reversed the October poll on the activity fee by proposing to increase —Agreed to rule on a Tennessee law that requires a defendant to be the first defense witness if he chooses to testify for himself. Kentucky has a similar law. "That doesn't mean that no organization would get funds," Smooth said. College Seat Open The District Court hearing was ordered last April by the U.S. Circuit Court here in a suit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union, which seeks five individuals and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. The Circuit Court called for a determination of whether Army spying "mission as defined by the Constitution." The Supreme Court could kill the suit if it decides to overrule the Circuit Court. The Justice Department contends the ACLU is entitled to on "indemnite and abstract assertions." He said that the Regents would probably eliminate the "compulsory head tax" if they were to pass their own laws. —Agreed to rule on the jurisdiction of federal courts to handle discharge suits by military reservists who say they are conscientious objectors. In a 6 to 1 decision, the high court barred Montana and all states from denying residents. The case concerned Victor Peece, the case migrant who originated from the state of —Agreed to decide in a Georgia railroad case whether discharged workers can sue for damages before their greavries are adjudicated. National Railroad Adjustment Board. Supreme Court Will Hear Charges of Army Spying WASHINGTON (AP)—The Supreme Court agreed Tuesday to take a look at claims by civilians and peace groups that the military is constitutional and speech-inhibiting saving. The court acted at the behest of the Justice Department. The move at least delays a full-dress U.S. District Court hearing into Army spying. The government will argue that individuals cannot bring suit against an Army surveillance system unless they can show first that they were spying victims. The case will be considered by the justices early next year. The court by then will be up to full nine-member strength if the justices agree with William H. Rehquist and Lewis F. Powell, Jr. Danenbarger Has Faith in Students Editor's Note: This is the third in a series of interviews with the Kansas Board Kansan Staff Writer Bv TED BYBFL. "I'm in the communications business so I believe in public meetings, but on the other hand I don't see any harm in keeping it," DanBarnage said in an interview last week. "Most of the work on the Board of Regents is done in committees." William Danebayer, regent from Concordia and president of a radio station there, had mixed feelings concerning the arrest of a convicted release of agendas for their meetings. Danenbacher is a 1933 graduate of the University of Kansas. Commenting on the general state of the economy and its effects on the University and the possible loss of teachers and students, Mr. Brennan did not think the situation was critical yet. “If the situation continues,” he said, “it will be悲ible. I think we're at the point where we are going to have to have more cooperation and more money from the bank. As for what has already happened, I think it is not critical, but it is serious.” Danebarger said he was not against the consumption of liquor, but in the recent Board action against the sale of beer in the city, it was reported that permission to sell beer on campus. "AS FAR AS I am concerned, the banning of 3.2 beer is something like banning the sale of Pepsi-Cola and milk, from a moral standpoint," Danbarger said. "But from a moral standpoint I think it was wrong to try to sell beer on the campas, so I opposed it." "As far as the consumption of beer, I favor it, but it is up to the individual schools to make their own regulations on it. We live in a state where we have to depend on appropriations from the general public, and we have to recognize that there is a considerable number of people who think that beer is unacceptable." William Danenbarger universities and colleges of Kansas he said he gained a great deal of respect for student life. Danenburger said he thought the Student Senate had generally acted responsibly in the past, and he was in favor of student participation. Danaenburger considers himself a liberal Democrat. He said he had considerable faith in students and in student government. From his work with the Student Coordinating Committee, composed of student representatives from the When asked if he thought the Student Senate was representative of only a small segment off the students, Daneantager wrote: "I had not. I added that if it were a minority Senate then students should correct it to make it a voice of the majority. DANENBARGER THOUGHT that it was good when the Student Senate was given the power to control activity fees, the power to be some final control above the senate. "It's too bad that the final control has to be the Board of Regents but somebody has to have it because of the long term questions that are involved from time to time." "Students be somewhat transient cannot accept the long term obligations and somebody, such as the Board of Regents, must assume that." Dandenong time long term obligations are jeopardized, the Board of Regents has to step in. "I think that's the only time we have stepped in and I think it's the only time we should. Otherwise I think the students should have all the voice in what is going on, except for things that we feel are jeopardizing long term obligations." Danenbarger said he thought that Chancellor E. Laurence Chalmers Jr. had handled his job well, and he had been pleased with what Chalmers had done. "I HAVE SUPPORTED Cailmers all along the line because I feel many of his problems were inborn," Danenbarger said. "The problems that have been incurred now have been his own and so far I feel he has been handling them adequately. "I think he is a good administrator. I try any young man who comes in not having been a chancellor before has things to prove." And they have them, and I think he's doing a very good job. Dunenbarger has been with the Board of Regents for more than six years, and he is second in seniority to regent Henry Bubb. He was originally appointed to the board in 1962, followed by a hiatus of five years, and then after a hiatus of seven years he resigned by Gov. Robert Docking.