TWO UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN, LAWRENCE, KANSAS FRIDAY, DECEMBER 1, 1944 KANSAN COMMENTS The Editors Say: Unfortunate as the publication of the Sour Owl was, the Daily Kansan believes the severe action taken by the chancellor was even more unfortunate. By the time "children" reach college age the whip hand of discipline no longer engenders fear, but rather the spirit of revenge in them. This was only too clearly shown in another most fortunate occurrence four years ago when students rioted after they failed to win a holiday following a K.U. victory over Kansas State. The Daily Kansan has no intention of standing up for the Sour Owl, but it does believe that the punishment meted out to the staff is too severe and incurs a hatred against, rather than a willingness to cooperate with the University in the future. Simply because a freshman was on the staff of the Sour Owl he should not be kept from extra-curricular organizations and employment for the rest of his four years. Furthermore, there were contributors to the Sour Owl who are not being punished at all. We have no fault to find with Dean Werner. He is well-liked and would probably never attempt to interfere with activities in his advisory capacity. But the fact that his appointment was handed down like a slap in the face, as if it were a discipline measure, leaves a taste sourer than the Sour Owl. When the student body ratified the ASC constitution two years ago, it gave the Student Council the rights to "supervise all extra-curricular activities." Only if Dean Werner does absolutely no more advise and aid students in activities he will not be encroaching upon the right the students gave the Council? Students are naturally suspicious of the word "advise" because they have seen others in such a capacity give more than advice. As students in a state university of a democratic nation we are opposed and always will be opposed to any administration which limits the students' privilege of learning how to govern themselves. We think that the chance to make mistakes while trying to govern ourselves is more important than the mistakes themselves, no matter how big they may be. We most heartily agree with the ex-president of the University of Texas, whom the Texas students are fighting for, when he says, "If a man has an idea, the University is the place to try it out." Only we believe the students should have the right to try out their ideas as well as the administration. The act of placing Dean Werner in an advisory capacity over student activities was not, in itself, inherently repugnant to students, but the manner in which it was done creates antagonism where there should be cooperation. Letters to the Editor To the Editor of the Daily Kansan: To the Editor of the Daily Mail, In his letter, published on Nov. 30, Irate Student argued that the University administration should shoulder responsibility for the Sour Owl affair because it had not appointed a censor although it had been "forewarned" that a Sour Owl was to be published under the auspices of the ASC. Just to keep the record straight, Irate Student should be informed that the Sour Owl, when it was published by Sigma Delta Chi, was not censored. No faculty member or administrative officer read the material before it was published. To the Editor of the Daily Kansam: Elmer Beth When the Sour Owl was issued, we all read it, and, I dare say, most of us even laughed at the jokes in it. But when the Lily-whites League got on the scent and our supreme pedants, the whitest and purest lilies of the League ordered an investigation, we all nodded our heads and agreed that the magazine was filth. Such pretension hasn't occurred since the Jap peace envoys visited our capital just before Pearl Harbor. The real issue is not the Sour Owl, and the question of its moral turpitude; the real issue is whether we want all of our student activities controlled by the supreme authorities who, in the past have not acted with the democratic ideals for which they apparently stand, but have used the same despotic methods which they are using in the present issue. I doubt not the sincerity of the ex-Dean of Men, and him I'll give credit for being what he stands for, but I strongly question the motives and reasons given by the higher authorities for assuming control over student affairs. By this action, they have taken upon themselves the power to control every phase of our student life. If we let them get away with it now, we will be signing away all rights to student government as long as such forces retain their power. If we allow existing conditions to remain, we can be sure of many restrictions in student government and other activities, and I'm sure that letters such as this will soon cease to be published in our closely-censored Kansan. If you don't believe me, ask any of the upperclassmen what happened to the boy who used his freedom of speech to recite a poem about this supreme being outside his office two years ago when the students were striking for a decent Christmas vacation, and then form your own opinion. An Indignant Student An Indigent Student (Editor's note: This letter was almost twice as long as is printed here, but due to lack of space and the irrelevancy of the last half of the letter, it was necessary to cut it.) Vote Post-war Military Training In a ballot-poll conducted at the University of Washington, the students held that young men should be required to take a year's military training after the war. WANT ADS LOST: Bulova wrist watch. Graduation gift. Will ask no questions. Call 726, Wally Parker. -51 FOR SALE: Bruning German made drawing set. Complete set of instruments in good condition. Call Elwood Miller at 2087 for information.-51 All old members of the Zoology Club please report at the zoology storeroom if you are interested in going to the initiation banquet Dec. 6.-Marilyn McEwen. OFFICIAL BULLETIN VARSITY UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS Friday, Dec. 1, 1944 Notices due at News Room, Journalism Building, at 10 a.m. on day of publication. FRIDAY - SATURDAY "Cyclone Prairie Rangers" CHARLES STARRETT Dean Smith, Carruth hall, is now taking orders from all girls who would like prints of his picture portraying the life of Smith-as-seen-in-a-hula-skirt-in-ye-olde - backyard. Anyone who doubts the veracity of this statement or who refuses to spend her money without seeing the potential product, please get in touch with Dean. "Polo Joe" JOE E. BROWN Rock Chalk Talk By ANNELLA HAMMETT We always knew there was something about a lawyer, but the case of Doris Dixon, Alpha Chi, versus Watkins Memorial hospital proves that a law book plus a bit of resourcefulness will do wonders. "Dixon" was confined to said sanctuary as a result of a tussle with a Siamese cat. ** The story goes that "Dixon" wanted to come home to the comforting arms of her sisters, but not. The hospital was stubborn. So she took up her law book, and leafed through the pages, pointing to passage after passage dealing with the fact it is illegal to confine a person against his will. "See, I can sue you! It's illegal. You let me go, or I'll sue you!" Nobody knows what happened, but she was home the next morning. Does Jack Hastings, Sig AF, like strawberry jam or what is that on his face after a date with Ruth Richmond, Alpha Chi pledge? *** - * * Most amazing what Bobby Thiele, Delta Gamma, has in her bag of tricks to amuse her date! The other night at the Muehlebach in Kansas City, Bob Unger, PTS, was the victim of her pulling-rabbits-out-of-nowhere-pantomime. Don't worry, Bob, she'll do it every time. Overheard in a cab Wednesday night when Al Bellinger, PT9, entered the cab which Peggy Smith, Alpha Chi, and Phil Butler, PT9, were taking downtown: *** GRANADA TODAY The Greatest Musical Romance Ever Made Nelson Eddy Jeanette McDonald Frank Morgan "Maughty Marietta" OWL SHOW SATURDAY NITE SUNDAY, 5 Days "Lost in a Harem" Phil: "Well, Al, where do you think you're going?" Bud Abbott, Lou Costello Marilyn Maxwell Jimmy Dorsey and his Orah. Peggy: "What for? You can't go any place this time of the night. Are you meeting someone?" Al: "Union Pacific station." Al: "O.K. So I am going down to the station to cash in my ticket." Let's hope she is the considerate type. It seems to be the accepted thing that our great white professors love to call on poor abused students at most inopportune moments, but even so. Miller Waugh certainly bit hard in "Bact" (bacteriology to the ignorant) class yesterday. Dr. Treece was enlightening students with the fact that certain anaerobes cannot grow with oxygen. So to get it away from oxygen, one must make a vacuum. At which point Miller asked, "Is that the same vacuum in which a penny and a feather would fall at the same rate of speed?" - * * One of the first post-war projects of Purdue University will be the revision of the machine shop training course. JAYHAWKER Shows 2:30-7-9 TODAY The Story of a Love That Became the Most Fearful Thing That Ever Happened to a Woman AND SATURDAY Also Musical - Color Cartoon - News Catholic Club to Have Breakfast The University Catholic club will have a communion breakfast and meeting after 10 o'clock Mass Sunday morning, Laura Schmid, club officer, has announced. All Catholic students are invited to attend. The Rev. Edward McGinnis will speak at the meeting. 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