THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1942 UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN, LAWRENCE, KANSAS PAGE FIVE PACIFIC BATTLE 'Doubtful But Happy' Student Poll That students are beginning to doubt the truth of war news published in newspapers seemed to be the popular trend shown by a University student opinion poll conducted on the recent naval battle in the Pacific. The idea that the "victory" has been described as being so outstanding and the fact that the information has been too long delayed have caused students to question the possibility of direct propaganda while others question the importance of the action. There are some who have accepted the reports and have employed them as definite morale-builders. Another fact proved by the poll is that one out of every seven persons had not heard or read anything at all concerning the battle. Some students and professors who were informed on the situation made the following comments: Donald Clark, business junior: "I have come to regard all such accounts or reports, no matter what the source, as telling something less or more than the truth." Dick Kell education sophomore: "I accepted the fact that we had gained an edge over the enemy, and wasn't very curious about the individual losses. Being in V-5, I trust the navy." Phillip Lin, graduate student from China: "I believe it. I also believe that from island to island to defeat Japan and get to Tokyo will be too costly. We must establish land bases in continental Asia to defeat the enemy. We must establish a second front in China." Laurie Russell, engineering senior: "This victory represents only a partial victory for our armed forces on the sea. We have made little ground as yet on land. A great distance remains yet toward complete defeat of the Axis powers." Cliff Blair. college sophomore: "I am not certain but what the story is a result of over-enthusiasm." Charles Cowan, College sophomore: "I don't think it was quite as much of a victory as reported. The report seems exaggerated but it is a good stage to prediction. We should be optimistic about it because there is an even chance that the Japs were setting a trap to divert our energies." Prof. Hilden Gibson of the political science department: "I believe the report was undoubtedly correct. Of course the story stated that the action was continuing and in this later action the edge may be taken off our victory." Jim Gillie, business senior: "Undoubtedly there's truth in it but it's exaggerated. Every time the enemy stops to eat lunch they herald it as a turning point in the war. But things are looking up." Bob White, College senior: "There is definitely a degree of skepticism on my part concerning the statistics. However, it seems that the Navy department has changed it's attitude in announcing losses lately, and I am more inclined to accept their reports than before." Domenico Gagliardo, professor of economics: "I think that it was an important, but probably not a decisive, victory." Erwin Hiebert, graduate student: "It sounds fantastic all right but I suppose you must do something to ke.ep up morale." more: "I don't think much about it Everything I read in a newspaper I take with a grain of salt." Doris Brewster, College sopho- Allan Cromley, College junior: "I don't know what to think. At least it's our only source of information. I hope its true because maybe we'll have a two hour commando week instead of three hour." Paul Adams, College sophomore: "I think the report is inaccurate. There is no indication that the battle is a turning point in the war. I think the report exaggerated and am inclined to believe that losses were equal on both sides." Burton Bowlus, business senior: "I think it's true, but it looks like they exaggerated and they're over optimistic. But it indicates a trend. I think that probably the air force was the deciding factor and as long as we have air supremacy we'll hold the area." Jack Han, College freshman: "I didn't believe a word of it. The United States may have sunk some ships but not that many." Lloyd Kirford, business junior, "No doubt the United States had a naval victory over the Japanese armada, but looking at the ratio of ships lost, it didn't justify the publicity given it." Quentin Wheatley College sophomore: "I believe we never get all the news. I think Japanese losses are over-emphasized and ours held down. Also our gains are over-emphasized. My general reaction though was of pleasure and a feeling that the turning point of the war has been reached." John Campbell, College senior: "When such good news comes through, I won't doubt it until it is proven otherwise. I have faith in the American newspapers and the U. S. navy. The navy deserves credit for its maneuver and action." Engineers Down Battenfeld Men Kappa Eta Kappa defeated Battenfeld Hall 19 to 7 in the last game on the regular schedule of the intramural football race yesterday afternoon. Clyde McKale was the star of the game. He received a pass from George Bolt to score the first touchdown for the engineers, and then took over the passing chores and threw passes to Vernon McKale and Don Atchison for the other two touchdowns. McKale also hit Atchison with one of his bullet passes to chalk up the lone extra point. Ray Thayer was the big show for Battenfeld. He intercepted a pass to register the only touchdown for Battenfeld and then kicked the extra point. Ben Matassarin and George McDonald turned in good games for Battenfeld. Going into this game neither team had lost a game, and because of the playoffs coming up this week there was much attention focused on the contest. If this game is used as a basis for the selection of the probable winner of the playoffs, Battenfeld's followers suffered a severe blow. The engineers dominated play all during the game and left no doubt as to the best team in Division II. George Bolt suffered a cut lip. Four stitches were necessary to close the wound. There is a good possibility that he will be in shape for the play-offs. CYCLONE FANS---- (continued from, page four) (continued from page 104, line to the Kansas 6 will rank as another great performance along side the better than 52-yard average Fred Poole had against Iowa in 1934. Ron Norman boomed the kick almost the length of the field to cover 93 actual yards plus another 9 from his position in the end zone for a grand total of 102 yards. From the Kansas point of view the most unusual feature was the pass Ray Evans completed to himself. Late in the game he passed only to have the Iowa State line slap the ball right back into his hands. The next result was a 1-yard loss on the play. Another unusual performance came in the last half when Evans completed 3 passes in a row for 3 losses totalling 19 yards. Five of his 9 completions netted 28 yards of loss. The sensational 1-handed catch 24-Year Pledge ★ ★ ★ Gets Initiated A pledge for twenty-four years sounds like a long time, but here is how it happened. Jay S. Parker, former attorney-general and present justice-elect of the state supreme court graduated from the University in 1918. He was a member of the Kanza club that became the Kansas chapter of the Delta Upsilon in 1920. Parker was rather busy and didn't get around to being initiated into the D. U.'s with the other Kanza's. Last Sunday morning the active chapter initiated their quarter of a century pledge. After initiation rites, a banquet was held at the chapter house. Alums present at the initiation were Lloyd Houston, chapter advisor, J. J. Jakosky, dean of the School of Engineering, Ray T. Wright, local businessman, and Hubert Brighton, secretary to the Board of Regents. Harville made of one of Royal Lohry's passes was another high spot of the Cyclone victory. With two Kansas men holding him down, Harville jumped high to stop the ball with his right hand and marked up a gain of 11 yards. THETA TAU---- / (continued from page four) Delmar Green's Blanks with Whitey Stannard figure to win over a strong Kappa Eta Kappa crew led by Clyde McKale. The Sigma Chi's lost a 6 to 0 thriller to Phi Gam's for their lone loss of the season. They rate a victory over the Sig Alph's, who finished second behind the Beta's in Division I. Delta Chi, led by Armand Dixon, will find rough going against Battenfeld, although they are rated a little stronger. George McDonald, Ray Thayer, and Ben Matassarin will put on a dazzling exhibition of football for Battenfeld. 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