University Daily Kansan / Friday, September 30, 1988 Campus/Area 3 Haskell program permits students to try KU classes Kansan staff writer By James Farquhar Kansan staff writer Reynold Wickleff leaves Haskell Indian Junior College two times a week to attend a class at the University of Kansas. Wickliffe, Kenwood, Okla., oophase at Haskell, is one of five Haskell students taking KU classes this fall. The Haskell students are participants in a new program designed to acclimate them to a large-school environment and to the director of career planning and placement. All five want to further their education at four-year universities. Wicklife said the program had eased his apprehension about attending KU next year. Before taking the class at KU, Wickliffe said that he thought KU was too big, confusion and impersonal. "I plan to get a bachelor in social welfare and maybe go on to the medical school. I really glad I am taking the class. I feel like I have a much clearer view." The program was initiated by a committee of Haskell and KU administrators. The group first met in the library to establish the gap between the two schools. Sloan said the committee was watching the new program to see how well it worked. "At this point it is just a pilot program," she said. "We want to limit it to six students or less to keep a close watch on how beneficial it is." The committee has launched several programs designed to familiarize Haskell students with KU and to prepare them for the differences between the schools, Sloan said. Stephen Shawl, standing, professor of physics and astronomy, and William Baynay, president of Students Against Plus/Mind Grading **PLEASE READ ALL TEXTS IN THE CAPITALS.** THIS IS A REFERENCE TO MATERIALS USED FOR THIS BOOK. "We take new students on a tour of KU, the student union and the library to let them know what KU has to offer," she said. According to KU's department of educational services, Ms. Saad last year, 52% said each year an average of less than a dozen Haskell graduates can be hired. Another goal of the committee is to encourage Haskell students to continue their education, she said Wilson Begam, Haskell sophomore from Fort Defiance, Arizona, who is currently the associate head of Learned Hall, said he planned to attend the University of Oklahoma on Thursday. "I've read that they're hurting for Native Americans in fields like engineering," he said. "Enrolment is down to about zero. I'm told." In the spirit of a renewed relationship between the schools, Sloan said KU hired a counselor for American Indian students Owen Le Beau, the counselor, also will work with Haskell students who are considering attending KU. Le Beau, Eagle Butte, S.D. graduate student who is an American Indian, was a professor in Northwestern Indian students at the University. Sides debate plus/minus grading "It takes awhile to cope with everything at KU," he said. "I wish I had had an adviser like that." Students hear pros and cons of new system By Grace Hobson Kansan staff writer A professor and a student went head to head last night in debating the plus/minus grading system, which was implemented this semester in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. Stephen Shawl, professor of physics and astronomy, and William Bayne, president of Students Against the Plum/Minus Grading System, who is most of whom were students opposing the grading system. Shaw proposed the system in April 1987, but it did not receive approval until last March by the governing body of the college. Bayne, Lawrence sophomore, organized the group when the Assembly voted to accept the system. The Assembly will discuss the system at its Oct. 4 meeting. If there is enough opposition, the issue will be put to another vote. The grading system was debated in a standing room only classroom in Wescow Hall. Shawil and Bayne fielded questions, followed by a period of cross examination. They then fielded questions from the audi- Hawke spake first, using transparencies to illustrate his views. He gave eight reasons the system should be implemented and three arguments for the system's argument for the system included finer distinctions between grades, more flexibility in grading and conforming with other KU schools that used the system. He said disadvantages included grade compression, meaning fear of A's resulting from failure receiving an A instead of an A. "The purpose of grades is to inform students how they are doing." Shawl said in pointing out the advantage of finer grade dis Because many of KU's peer institutions and other well-regarded universities use the sys- "You can see I'm not the only one for this system," Shawl said. "Other institutions around the country have this system. In none of these institutions has there been a system that is the only system. Clearly, it is a good system." Bayne argue that although the 12-point system would seem to be more accurate in assessing grades than the previous 5-point system, it ten, Shawl said it would work for tem, KU. Satisfaction with the system at these other schools was high, he said. 'Other institutions institutions around the country have this system. In none of these institutions has there been a move to repeal this system. Clearly it is a good system.' Stephen Shawl Stephen Shawi professor of physics and astronomy was not. "I have been told by the director of the office of student records (Gary Thompson) that actual grade changes have tripled time one of our schools has plus minus system. Bavea said." Thompson could not be reached for comment. Bayne said KU needed to research the new system before hastily abandoning the old system. "The five-point scale has been an important component of a state budget," Bayyne said. "It seems reasonable to insist that it should not be considered obsolete until something better to take its place." "I have 15 hours, twelve of which I caught by TA's. 'Snooked was an caught by TA.' Snooked was between an A-minus and a B-plus. The crowd chewed her breasts. Responding to Shawl's argument that faculty could assign grades better with plus/minus rules, he said, "I was a junior, said only faculty experienced in the system could discern between the worth of a plus or minus." High enrollment strains some schools By Debbie McMahon and Katy Monk Kansan staff writers Professional school enrollment This year, all but four schools have gained in enrollment. Whether from above or below school, students in school apprehended their enrollment limit this year, based on 20th-day enrollment figures released Wednesday. The School of Fine Arts had an increase of 62, but it was not known which department gained students. 1986 1987 1988 * Architecture and Urban Design 646 682 650 * Business 993 927 770 * Education 773 824 963 * Engineering 1,909 1,843 1,175 * Fine Arts 1,106 1,100 1,182 * Graduate 5,601 5,537 5,511 * Journalism 732 727 784 * Law 508 506 503 * Pharmacy 244 252 274 * Social Welfare 713 662 690 The School of Journalism and Mass Communications is facing a similar strain with a jump of 57 students. Dean Mike Kautch said the school may have reached its limit for providing a quality education to its students. "In a sense, it's a blessing to be so wanted and needed," Kautsch said. "But it does strain our resources." "We are not in a position to meet the demands and needs generated by an enrollment increase of this sort." KANSAN graphik Kautsch said there had been no change in the recruitment process. He was surprised because in past years enrollment had leveled off. The addition of 28 students to the School of Social Welfare will cause more of a problem than one might expect. Deap Amn Weck said. But, she said, "We're within the range of what we expected." The business school approached its enrollment goal from the other direction. Enrollment this year dropped almost 17 percent from 1987, but an administrator said the decrease was planned. David Shulenburger, associate dean of business, said the school had taught him how to read a gram several years ago because the number of faculty members was growing. In 1985, enrollment at the school hit 1,200, and the 55 faculty members struggled under the load. Enrollment has steadily decreased under the stricter requirements of the control program. This year, the number dropped by 157 to 778 students. Studentburger said the program was to reach 729 students by fall 2014. Shulenbury said inability to keep or replace faculty members necessitated the program. Pay, he said, was the problem. lose a faculty member, the salary left behind is typically not enough to hire a replacement." "We lost a great many faculty members because salaries were too low," Shilenburger said. "When we A Drop at the School of Engineering at the 138 student life's little reflects a '183 degree downtown in enrolment since 1983, engineering Carl Larkie Fall 1987 enrollment was also down from the year before. Enrollment at the School of Education may represent another trend. Enrolment increased almost 17 per cent in the second year for a jump in students. Locke said KU bucked the norm for several years in part because of the enrolment surge at the University. Locke said he was not bothered by the drop, partly because student-faculty ratios were higher in some departments than he would prefer. "There are two factors involved," said Dean Edward Meven. "I defi nitely can see more people interested in teaching. Also, there has been a change which probably has some implications for the kind of students we required that juniors who want to be in the school have to change from Liberal Arts by the 80th day of school. This is the first year of the 20th day deadline. Other schools remained relatively stable. Law school enrollment has virtually stood still for at least the ten years it has been a net loss of five students since 1966. "We intended to stay steady, we did stay steady and we will stay steady," said Michael Davis, dean of law. At the pharmacy school, 22 students were added. Eight of those are part of the doctorate of pharmacy program, a sixth year program now in its first year. The School of Architecture and Urban Design has 32 fewer students than last year. "Sometimes you have to have a lower attrition," Dean Max Lucas said. "When we're talking about 30 people, that is not a big fluctuation. I'm not disappointed at all. This is just about what we expected." Finally, despite the overall decrease in undergraduate enrollment, graduate school enrollment increased by 174 students to 5.811 Robert Sanders, associate dean of the graduate school, said graduate programs were not experiencing the need for many undergraduate schools were "The increase in graduate enrollment can be rather easily accommodated," he said. Bars collect money for Gilbert victims Jamaica native returning home to take donations from Lawrence, KC residents By Debbie McMahon By Debbie McMahon Kansan staff writer Kansan staff writer Hurricane Gilbert might have left the weather reports and newspaper headlines, but for the people in Florida, these effects continue to be a part of life. Gibert, one of the strongest storms in history, destroyed houses, crops and the water supply in this small and country in the Caribbean. Seed 12. For this reason, people in Lawrence and Kansas City are trying to send relief. Donation boxes have been set up two hours in Lawrence, the Jazzman 628 I/2 Massachusetts, the Jazzman 627 I/2 Massachusetts, 727 New Hampshire St. The collections will be taken to Jamaica by Dave Clark, owner of One Drop Studio, a regale record store in Kansas City, M. Clork, owner of the Regale Records in Jamaica, said he planned to return sometime next week. He was in Jamaica the day before the hurricane hit. Since then he has not heard from anyone until now, including his children, parents, grandparents and great grandparents. "we need canned goods more than clothes," Clark said. "W water-purification tables, batTERS, flashlights, vitamins are essential at this point." It wasn't need the most immediately after the storm, but supplies are running out. One decade of work is gone." Clark said he also was worried about freight charges and import taxes. He plans to pay for them out of his own pocket if he has to. Common Ground, a local regina band, decided to try to send relief to the people of Jamaica from Lawrence. They conducted a benefit show at the Jazhiraz last Saturday. The band's collection was collected from the cover charge Jim Dempsey, saxophone player and former KU student, said the band felt an obligation to Jamaica. "It's the homeland of reggae, Dempsey said. "It's the music we're playing "I just think that the music we're playing has a lot of meaning and thought behind it. So if really doesn't matter, you can use it to me if I make it off or not." One reason for having Clark deliver the goods is to ensure that the people in need will receive the donations. Kenny Jahn, bass player for Common Ground, said, "I'm really glad that Dave is personally going to be there." The band will go to those who need it." Donation boxes will remain at the two locations until early next week. 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