Vol. 99, No. 4 (USPS 650-640)
THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN
PUBLISHED SINCE 1860 BY THE STUDENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
Wednesday August 31, 1988
Two debates set
Camps disagree on timing of meetings
The Associated Press
WASHINGTON — George Bush's campaign said yesterday that the Republican nominee was willing to run against him and hold a third between their running mates. But the Dukakis campaign held for at least one more month.
"We want to start them earlier, they want to start them later," he said. "We want them up until the election takes place, they would like end them."
A meeting between the top officials of both campaigns ended with disagreement over both the number and the duration of the between the presidential nominees.
"We want more debates; they want fewer," said Paul Brow纳, campaign chairman for Dukakis, the Democratic nominee.
There was no decision on who would sponsor the debates on what the format would be — but both sides were given an opportunity tomorrow for more negotiations.
James A. Baker III, chairman of the Republican nominee's campaign, said the Bush campaign has offered to hold two presidential debates and two presidential nominees, with the first coming as early as September 21.
That date would rule out, however, rival proposals for debates on Sept. 8, sponsored by the League of Women Liberators, sponsored by a bipartisan commission.
"Provided that the issues of format and staging and so forth are resolved, we will debate twice, and we have agreed that there could be a vice president."
Baker said the commission's proposed second debate on Sept. 25 would be agreeable.
Both officials spoke after a two-hour private meeting in the Washington offices of Brountes law firm. A spokeswoman for the firm Susan Estrin represented Dakikas, and Bush was represented by Baker, media adviser Hoger Ales, and Bush.
They met as the public debate over debates continued from both sides of the presidential campaign.
Dukakis, in Massachusetts, pressed Bush to meet him in debate and charged that the Republicans are behind an administration's record. Bush, in North Carolina, declared that there would be邦邦 who but that too many would be born.
"We're not afraid of three at all," Baker said. "But there are other ways to campaign."
Grading system source of conflict
By Grace Hobson
A new plus-minus grading system has started in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences this semester, unless an order to rescind the motion carries at next meeting of the College Assembly.
Kansan staff writer
In March, the Assembly, the governing body of the college, voted 213-165 by a mail-in ballot to adopt the plus/minus system but In May, Allyson Burren, Assembly student representative, moved on behala of Students Against the Plus Minus System to rescue the vote.
The system is modelled after the one now being used by some KU professional schools. Teachers have the option of using the 12-point scale, which has no A-pole and no knot point. The five point scale formerly used.
James Carothers, associate dean of the college, asked the effects of the new technology on actual. He said that the professional schools were satisfied with it.
The schools that use the plus-
minus system are Architecture
and Urban Design, Education,
Literature and Journalism and
Social Welfare.
Plus/minus question faces assembly vote on Tuesday
Carothers said the Assembly would debate the motion Tuesday and might call for another mail-in vote.
The president of Students Against the Plus/Minus Grading System and the William B. Applegate student rep of the William B. Applegate lack of research and low student awareness of the system as the reason for its push on pach for the rescind
"There hasn't been enough research done on a national level, but we have found that thing to add to that," Bayne said. Bayne, Lawrence sophomore, said he was disturbed by the lack of awareness of the grading policy change.
However, the confusion over the
"A lot of students didn't realize this was going on," Bayne said. "I talked to a student at enrollment, and then I knew I don't know about the new system."
change has not been limited to students.
Joseph Sicilian, professor of economics, said he didn't know about the change until students began asking him about his grading skills.
Sicilian said many students asked him if he would use the policy. He said after thinking about it that he would.
"I am more in favor of a finely divided dividing system," Sicilian said, who also is chairman of the economy departments. "Performance is cared enough. A new system will vary varying performances."
Lloyd Spohnholt, director of undergraduate studies in history, said he was against the plus/minus system because of the lack of
"A B plus in one class is a B in another," Sponholtz said. "Also, it will make it hard for students
competing for scholarships with students from other schools that don't have the system."
However, the Don Scheid, associate dean of the School of Fine Arts, said uniformity in grading had always been non-existent.
"There is the same consistency, or lack of consistency, across the board with all teachers," Scheid said.
Scheid said that the new system would not affect students' grades substantially
"The system hasn't changed grade point averages in the last ten years, before and after we had plus/min grades. There is practically a straight line across." Scheid said.
Bayne said after the system had been in effect for a number of years, grades would balance out and the period that bothers him, he said.
"It will take four or five years before the University can acquire enough honors with the new system because of the change in the grading."
mayne said he understood why teachers would want to use the 12-point scale, but said they needed to
Please see GRADES, p.5
Parking crunch called a 'crisis'
Craig Tay, Denver senior, has his eyes on the basket as Baskett Hammond, Denver senior, has his eyes on Oty. The two were using
By Katy Monk
Kansas staff writer
some spare time to play one on one at the basketball courts north of Joseph R. Pearson Hall yesterday evening.
Kansan staff writer
To the hoop
Morris Faiman couldn't find a place to park.
He drove around the blue zone lone to close the building he wanted to get to. He had to get at KU. There are all sorts of requirements attached to getting so, then they had to get departments who have too much trouble finding a space.
But not sure to rule out, so
So Fiam drives to a red zone lot,
and throws the ball around it.
Found a place, pulled in, and
toward Maltal Hall.
The parking board
He was going to a meeting, and he didn't want to be late because he was chairman of the board.
Faiman, a professor of pharmacology and toxicology, got on time, and the meeting start promptly. In preparation for the meeting, But there was a difference. Board members discussing parking at KU kept using words such as
Yesterday, one week before the groundbreakering for the garage next to Allen Field house, the board ordered the parking policy at K11 to button.
As student representative Bli,
Moseley said, "If drastic things are
necessary, let's get it all done now."
The idea is to have five subcommittees of interested groups; faculty, staff, students, professors emerit, and those whose medical needs constitute special parking considerations.
The subcommittees, each headed by a member of the parked board, will examine parking policy as it is now. They will carefully evaluate it and recommend changes they think necessary.
And, undoubtedly, they could each come to the conclusion that their own needs are paramount.
certainly, would rapidly find itself caught in the snare of which-group-needs-what and who comes-first, Faisman said.
But that's the way it's supposed to work. The subcommittees, Faiman and others, will decide what each group needs. They're not supposed to be impartial. If the board wanted impartial, the board would make it clear. If they made it, if any. And the board, almost
Instead, the idea is to let each group present its case. From five neatly packaged, logical arguments, they may recommend a recommendation. It may be that they recommend limits on yelow permit sales. They may recommend restrictions on the parking lots. It all depends on what the subcommittee come up with. There've been even talk of a second parking garage. "maybe somewhere near the Kansas
Or, they may decide the policy is just fine the way it is.
Parking at the University of Kansas has had its ups and downs in recent years. But this year, factors such as a busier parking system, more every year, Enrollment, which has sailed in the past five years.
And, this year, construction, which is chewing up parking spaces at a rate that is surpassed by them, they constitute a parking crisis.
Steps taken last year have changed the rules on visitor parking to reserve permit spaces for those who've paid for them, and getting a red permit is tougher this year. Parking lots have been restricped to squeeze every inch of room out of them. Additions to the parking board seem to be being ground anyway. Literally.
While the parking garage is under construction, 141 yellow spaces will be lost. The blue permit lot beside it has had 75 spaces, which disappeared.
A temporary lot beside Robinson Center will add about 80 red spaces, and restriping east of the Burge Union added 82 yellow spaces, but construction still leaves a parking deficit.
At this point, parking decisions are a long way from being made. But things will have to move quick at that point. He has a meeting with the University Council in February. He wants to be able to hand them something
City Commission decides to dissolve downtown committee
By Deb Gruver
Kansan staff writer
Despite public concern, the Lawrence City Commission voted 3.2 last night to dissolve the Downtown Improvement Committee.
Although Dennis Constance called the DIC the "prime body available" about downtown matters, the commission put an end to the organization, which had not met since May. The committee is against dissolving the committee
The DIC is a group designed to represent the different interests in the community on downtown development. The committee has worked on several downtown plans.
"We quickly ran into things that were given, but maybe should not have been," Summerz said. "We take it to the table and ask for some public stand."
Terry Summers, 510 Tennessee St. a member of the DLC who represents both the Chamber and Association, and that the commission should have looked into options for the organization.
Since the planning of the Chelsea Project, the downtown river development, has already started, the coin
mission felt that the committee had served its purpose.
"Citizens in Lawrence do not sit back when they don't like something," Commissioner Sandy Praeter said.
However, Rundle recommended that the commission take a consensus of the public's opinion on the issue. Other commissioners said that Lawrence residents will continue to receive known, with or without the DIC.
Barry Shalinsky, 645 Connecticut St., a member of the East Lawrence Improvement Association, said that
elimination of the DIC would make public involvement more difficult.
"I think representatives of the public and public interest groups have a role in helping us make imksey said, "Now involvement will not be ongoing. In the DIC, people were involved in ground-floor decisions. The public brought up areas of concern."
In other matters about downtown improvement, the commission made several decisions on the Chesla Project, the city's riverfront development.
The footprint for the parking
A study on traffic direction on New
goage that will house approximately 511 spaces was approved with some modification.
It was recommended by Buford M. Watson Jr., city manager, that they proceed with schematic design so that the commission could go to Liberty.
The commission had two study sessions conducted on the planning of the parking garage and considered four plans. The plan to have a two-story garage was chosen, and Mayor Thomas Bowers of the design contract for the garage
Hampshire Street, from Sixth to Seventh Street, was deferred unanimously by the Commissioners. Praeeeeded for a three week progress report.
In other business, Lawrence will participate in a loan program that focuses on low income housing. According to the loan, lenders must meet certain criteria for housing codes, and interest rates for payment will differ with each loan.
This Saturday has been designated "Drive for Life" day in Lawrence. Mothers Against Drunk Driving.
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