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WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1933
UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN, LAWRENCE. KANSAS
University Daily Kansan
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WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 1933
THE BAND'S CASE
Gym credit for freshmen and sophomores and three hours credit for juniors and seniors is demanded by the band in a petition signed by every member and presented to the faculty. The petition does not seem unfair. The men do a minimum of four hours work each week, meeting twice weekly. No one can deny that the organization is indispensable. Without it our rallies, games, and meals. Unsurprisingly, gatherings would be tame, uninteresting affairs. The band is almost as much a part of the football games as the team itself.
In two semesters the hands meets from seventy-five to a hundred times. They play at all University gatherings, give two concerts, and play at Commencement exercises. In all they put in from one hundred and fifty to two hundred hours of work, and ask in return only three hours credit. A regular three hour course requires two to three hours work a day, three days in the week. It is this comparison it would seem that the bard men should be given what they ask.
Gym credit has been granted to freshmen and sophomores for band work, attendance is compulsory, and the third and fourth year men say that they are due some consideration for the work they do. And they argue that the University of Kansas is practically the only college which does not grant band credit.
The band has the support of every student on the campus and it is hoped that the faculty will see fit to grant the men what they ask, and pave the way for the band made possible by the added incentive of credits received for time spent.
The editorial reprinted above is taken from the Daily Kansan for Oct. 7, 1919. It is evidence that the question of credit for the band has been hanging fire for a long time, 14 years at least, and that arguments advanced for the cause then are just as valid now.
In fact, with the advent of the activity ticket and non-compulsory gym credit the case of the band men has been immeasurably strengthened. It is a wonder that members of the band have served faithfully and uncomplyingly for so many years.
The present petition of the band is attracting wide-spread and attentive comment. Sympathy for its members is strong among undergraduates, alumni and friends of the University. A strong hope prevails that the administration will see its way clear to accede to the band's requests.
FOUR-STAR PROFS
"Bank Bandits Strike Again." —Headline in Kansas City Star. Even the bandits won't abide by the NRA!
What gives a professor a four-star rating?
The ability to teach thoroughly and exactingly a difficult course and still remain popular with the students is a feat of legerdemain that few of the University professors can manage.
But it is done! Any student can name two or three whom he would put in this select class.
Is it not something of a miracle that a strict, demanding instructor can teach (what would be a dry subject in other hands) to crowded classrooms every semester? That students do fill such courses as
this disproves the common theory that most undergraduates enter college to keep from working.
The fact that a professor has large classes does not win for him a four-star rating. His popularity might be the result of an entertaining lecture manner, a tendency to keep the assignments easy, or a liberality with high grades. In the vernacular, only "the prof who is tough and makes 'em like it" deserves the highest rating.
Get a few four-star professors next semester and see how much you can learn. Education is like courtship, the course of true knowledge never runs smooth.
After seeing Jimmy Durante in no less than five shorts ballyhooing the NRA in the past four weeks, we wonder why the motion picture industry doesn't abide by a few of his suggestions. Anyway it would be a change.
SUPPRESSING CHILD LABOR
Secretary Frances Perkins commends the NRA codes for bringing about the elimination of one of America's outstanding industrial evils, namely child labor. It is disheartening that so obvious an evil as this has to wait until a national tragedy such as the depression before it can be suppressed. It is no deep dark secret that when children are permitted or forced to work it not only keeps employment from destitute adults but it stunts the lives of the children.
In 1916 Congress attempted to suppress child labor by prohibiting shipment in interstate commerce of products of mines or factories in which children from 14 to 16 years of age were permitted to work. This law was declared unconstitutional, as was a later law in which Congress tried to impose a tax of ten per cent on the net profits of firms or corporations employing children below the age of 14. The courts ruled that Congress was taking power not granted to it by the Constitution.
By raising wage rates, reducing working hours and putting more adults to work, the NRA as accomplishing something that Congress tried and failed to bring about.
Now that foreign subjects are so popular with women students why doesn't cooking and sewing get more of a play?
Campus Opinion
The Daily Kansan will not print letters for this column unless the names of the writers are known. If therefore the persons who wrote the communication about the working students' picnic will submit their names to the editor the letter will be printed.
Also, contributors are again reminded that the Kansan reserves the right to reject or condense letters of more than 250 words.
The Editor.
This is to draw your attention to a serious error (I trust it was a misprint) in your editorial column last night. In the article based upon Cynicky Phin's couplet on mashed potatoes from starbeams, you referred to Cynicky as Mr. Phin. Such mistakes are an insult to even collegiate intelligence. Anybody can see with half an eye that a person with a name like that must be a woman.
Editor Daily Kansan:
I am writing to register another protest from the student body at the two most recent 'raw deals' of the administration, namely the seating of students in the stadium and in the auditorium by privilege of their activity tickets.
Jake.
Editor Daily Kansan:
These tickets were devised to keep alive certain activities that would otherwise be dropped; also to force the entire student body to pay for activities only half, on the average, care to retain, or at least to attend. Having showed such a proposition down our throats, the administration is adding insult to injury by giving very inferior seats to students at the stadium and in the auditorium. The desire of the alumni to hear K.U.'s cheerring is the most fabulous invention of
All members of the Band must be present at rehearsal this evening at 7:30 J. C. McCANLES, Director.
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Vol. XXXI
Wednesday, Oct. 18, 1933
DELTA PHI DELTA:
Delta Phi Delta will hold initiation and pledging Thursday, Oct. 19, at 5 p.m. in room 320 Administration building. There will be a short business meeting preceding the initiation.
FRANCES HAMLIN, President.
ENGINEERING COUNCIL:
A regular meeting of the Engineering council will be held this evening at 8:30 in Marvin hall. CARL KINDSVATER, Secretary.
GROUP IV, CO-ED CLUB:
Group IV of the Co-Ed班 will meet at the Memorial Union building at 5:30 o'clock Thursday, Oct. 19, for a wineier roster. Those wishing to go must call Catherine Siebens (1486) before noon Thursday. Be sure to bring a dime.
MARY HUONGHUA, Chuanghe
MARY RUDIGER, Chairman.
Quack club will meet tonight at 8:15. Dues should be paid before the initiation and pledging which will be held next Wednesday, Oct. 25.
HUMANITIES HUNTER
QUACK CLUB:
QUILL CLUB:
There will be a meeting this evening at 8:15 in the rest room of Central Administration building. All who wish to be initiated on Nov. 12 should pay their $2 at this meeting if it is at all possible. A list of students eligible for initiation this fall has been posted on the bulletin board.
ELIZABETH BRANDT, President.
The Y.M.C.A. Cabinet will hold its weekly meeting on Thursday, Oct. 19, in room 10 of the Memorial Union building.
Y. M. C. A. :
mind I have ever heard offered for such a raw deal. Everybody knows the alumni does all the cheering. For some reason the athletic administration thought it could get away with such a silly excuse for giving inferior seats to the students, whom it doesn't have to persuade to buy tickets now—thanks to our wonderful activity ticket—and give the best seats to the customers who aren't forced by a state institution to buy something they don't want, and which isn't worth the money to them. Exactly the same thing is true in the auditorium, except that the fine arts administration frankly admitted the truth as to why the students were shoved back into inferior seats, and didn't invent a silly story about the heart-breaking desire of the alumni to hear those good old Jayhaw yells. It is really a sream about the alumni. How do you suppose the alumni can hear the cheering clear across the stadium?
As an out-of-state student, I have received more than my share of raw deals from the administration, and am somewhat prejudiced. But the whole student body will agree that they are getting a body deal on top of another original one.
Sincerely yours.
Our Contemporaries
'Cabbages for 'Hello Day'
Elevating informality to an institutionalized plane of carefully organized co-operative endeavor! Paradoxical, isn't it? Yet that's one of the seasonal activities of the girls' senior honorary society, the Motar Boards, and Friday involved preparations will be culminated in the usual feeble way with a few scattered greetings.
The occasion is "Hello Day," a relic of former years, into which some faint signs of life were breathed three years ago. We've learned they were looking for something to do.
As it has worked, and gives every sign of continuing to work this fall, *Tall* is a great title.
a dozen freshman women are very much surprised to find themselves being timidly or sometimes brazenely greeted by a few self-conscious upper-classwomen. The ideal supposed to be at the bottom of all this, in the words of the sponsors, is to "create a united Cornhusker spirit" and to "secure and promote a better feeling of co-operation among all university students."
The ideal is generally conceded to be a worthy one, but almost no other method could be so ill-adapted to attaining it.
Typically American is this left-handed attempt to institutionalize an informal thing. It is in the same class as some of the absurdities sponsored by chamber of commerce in their frenzy to set aside days for the observance of every brand of sentimentality.
"Hello Day" (last year it dragged in-ternably for a whole week), is in fact, an absurdity—the kind of absurdity that might be expected to spring from the blind worship of that vague idealism; it stands on us; tradition properly respected is one of the things that holds an institution or a society together, and as such has its proper merits. It is only when the blind, uncontrolled American urge to "do something about it" crops out that "tradition" becomes emascul
Once, in a small college, "Hello Day" might have had a value. But it lost out when it failed to get support, and the abortive attempt to revive it is worse than worthless—it's disgusting.—Daily Nebraskan.
The very fundamental value that accrues to informal greeting is more than destroyed when an attempt is made to organize and disperse "hello" formally. The value is trampled on held up to ridicule, disgraced. "Hello," symbolic amicable greeting, certainly denotes a kind of social spirit, a unity, but to place it in the gap of tradition as a means of organized promotion of "a feeling of co-operation among all university students" is probably one of the most absurdly futile projects ever attempted on this campus.
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