THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN
Vol. XXVI
Australian Debate Team Wins Close Audience Decision
Reception Given Visitors Is Most Responsive Welcome on Their Tour
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UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, LAWRENCE, KANSAS, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1928
Lact night before some 400 people in Fraser Theater, the debate team from Sydney, Australia, displaying the same brand of pointed wil and a long, skinny neck. The debacle squared from "down under" won over their audience at Lawrence three years ago, defended the Kanaka's stance, Resolved, that the world would be better off without the movies, by an audience vote of 126 to 110, Sydney upheld the affirmative side of the action, while Kansas had the negative.
The close margin by which Sydney won would indicate that Kansas was deadlocked in the second since that night three years ago and蒙特利尔 them on an audience vote.
According to figures which were tabulated after the debate, Kansas was more influential when it came to effective debating, was more instrumental in influencing and changing the outlines of debates, and being are being t in favor of Kansas.
Speaking of their reception by the audience, the Australians after the tour were both impressed and was the most enjoyable and responsive that they had on their tour.
Prof. E. C. Buehler, presided at the debate, introduced the speakers; and expressed the pleasure of the audience at their presence.
Movies Not Impressive
N. C. Nelson, first speaker on affirmative visitation team, contended in his speech, "That movies leave absolutely no lasting impact." Mr. Nelson also affirmed that the stage, formerly one of the most important entertainments for the people was being submerged in the murky water of a counter-culture, "Movies," he said, "appear to a lower class of people, and the play to compete at all, is also necessarily lowered. The motion picture industry is the youth of today. In addition they are being used as a means of propaganda, and they are centralizing capital of this country by taking the fourth place in the interests of the
The first speaker of the negative, Burton Kingbury, pointed out in his speech that movies are a necessary medium for life. "The screen comedians have made countless people in love with life. The primary motive of the movie is to entertain and entertain, a chance to laugh. Practically nine-tenths of the pictures shown on the screen today are not being abused, but the movies are subject to control and direction as shown through censorship. To remove the negative elements, it is not necessary. Movies have a purpose of giving wholesome entertainment to the vast majority of Americans people, and they are fulfilling."
Movies Are Killing Romance
MOVIES are WRONG.
The case of *A Firm* is a primitive case. It is the case that H. G. Godsall, he argued that it is not a virtue of the movies that they are not static. "Since the movies are bent in an evil course to be static would be a wristful romance. Such ideal conditions shown on the screen tend to discontent people with the real circumstances of life. When there comes the final fate out of the movies then finally may we weaken stars."
Robert Richaris, the second speaker for Kansas considered in his talk the educational value of the motion picture. "The present day movie is a short cut to knowledge. The aggregate fund of knowledge of current events, and bring to the people ideas of life they could get in no other way." Movies have come to supplement partly the teacher and the text books and through experience in its pupil which otherwise he could not have."
Real Life Not Depicted
Real Life No Flipper.
The affirmative picture was concluded as Sheldon, who asserted that the Kansas debaters by bringing in educational pictures were avoiding the main issue, since educational pictures constitute only about of their existence to ensure they see sordid melodrama. If the movies have not justified themselves in the thirty year mouth rock, Plymouth rock should the motions purpose to give us life as it really is and does so because we live in the picture is a bad thing. Instead of the pilgrim fathers landing on Ply-
Unsold Tickets Go Back to M. U. Office Saturday
Tickets for the K, U, M, U. game are selling rapidly. The majority of tickets are been sold, but there are still good seats to be had, according to word counts.
Election of Freshmen Officers by Men Will Be Held November 23
This week is the last chance to r serve scatts for the game at Columba. Players who are not returned to the M. U. athletic fire on Saturday. Reports of the day of the game will dictate that those waiting until the day of the game to buy tickets will be unable.
Signatures of Party Leaders or 25 Voters Necessary on Petition
Election of a president and treasurer and two dance managers for the freshman class will be held at 8:30 p.m. thursday, Nov. 22, in the Auditorium as defined as freshmen in the directory may vote in this election. Other men students will also be allowed to vote if they get a certificate from the registrar's office stating that they are defined as freshmen by the registrar.
Petitions, naming candidates for nomination, will be accepted if signed by at least 50 percent of the political party or by 25 student voters. These petitions must be given to (Armin Hillner, c29, secretary of state) in person, by mail, by televised, by Wednesday noon, Nov. 21.
This election will complete the filling of freshman office for the company, a position that many faculty having been elected earlier by women students at the W, S, G. A
Basketball Men Practice
First Scrimmage of Year Held Wednesday Night
A short serigraph, the first of the season, was the feature of a hard drill given pre-season basketball candidates yesterday. A team composed of Thomson and Bishop, forwards, Klass and Culp, guards, and Dold at Stanford, forwards, Jones and Whitfield, guards, and Kundug, center.
Other men who were out for prince ice yesterday were Garrett, Hitchcock, Grose, and Jensen. Drill on undermounted accounts the rent of the rest of the house would be paid over five days a week now, with a hard drill three days of the five.
"Although it is too early in the season to make any predictions," Jeffrey, assistant coach, said, "we have not yet issued a warning. We have an excellent bunch of sophomore men out, and with several freshmen we have designated points to a successful season."
Clarence McGuire, letter man of last year, is recovering from a tonal operation, but will be ready for practice early next week. Some promising men who are out for football and will report at the close of the season are Raupert, Ramiro, Lannes, Mormack, Paden, Manye, and Schmidt.
K. U. Glee Club Will Sing in Columbia November 2
The University glee club will leave Friday morning, at 6:20 for Columbia, where the club will sing for a few hours before the annual joint concern with the University of Missouri glee club will be held. This affair is held every year for a special football game, the football game, at the school where the gridiron classic is to be held.
*ne Alumni association of Drake University is holding all-university theater parties to help raise funds for women's dormitories on the campus.*
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moth rock, Plymouth rock should have landed on them,"
The University of Oklahoma celebrated it annual Homecoming day Saturday, Nov. 10.
The last speaker for Kansas, Mr. Frederick Anderson pointed out that the movies were a new and growing genre of film, constantly occurring. The public of the world is the audience of the movies; therefore if the movies were removed the thing that applauded them would have to appeal to the public. "If we are to conclude that the world would be better off without the movies, because of a few bad spots we can surround everything that can be done away with."
The rebuttals were given by Burton Kingsbury of the negative team and by Mr. Nelson of the affirmative team.
Letters Indicate Large Attendance for Round Tables
Approximately 200 Editors Coming; Program Has Appeal to Many Interests.
Letters received from Kansas editors indicate that there will be approximately 200 delegates here for the round row and Saturday. The round tables and general sessions will be supplemented by several courtesy affairs given by the University, a lunch on Saturday noon given by the Law School, a privileged attendance at the Kansas-Oklahoma game Saturday afternoon as guests of the Athletic Association. The program in detail is scheduled.
Friday Morning
Registration at the Journalism Building.
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6:00 General session of the Round Table groups. (First consideration of the list of topics that have been suggested for discussion.)
Friday Afternoon
1. 20 Round table for editors o weekly papers Round table for editors of daily papers
2:30 General session, auditorium or Central Administration building. Songs, by the Glee Club quartet. Dances, by members of Tau Sigam. Address, Walter M. Harrison, managing editor of the Daily Okaloaque
1:00 Toni for visiting editors, sk
parlor of Journalism building
served by women in the depar-
ment of journalism.
Friday Evening
or Dinner given by the University of Kansas to its editorial guest Memorial Union building Cabinet室 Music School faculty Security of the School of Art Arts.
6:30 Dinner given by the Universit
Address, "The University and the Press," Chancellor E. H. Lindley, informal speaking.
Saturday Morning
9:00 Round table for weekly editors
    1 table for daily editors.
Round table for daily editors,
10.00 General session, auditioning for
"Newpaper: Methods in Foreign
Countries" Prof. J. Armand Humil-
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the Kansas Press and the State's Underground Wealth," Prof. R, C Moore, state geologist.
presentation. If I were Editing Newspaper by Representation by representing C.A. Smart, representing the law year's point of view. New York Congressional Church, representing the ministry, Dr. H. L., Chambers, sponsoring a presentation Prof Seba presenting the teaching profession.
Address: Ralph Ellis, editor of the Kansas City Journal-Port.
2350 Lannonheim given for the members of the Press by the Lawrence Chamber of Commerce, Eighth and Vermont streets.
Editors are urged to take time to visit places of special interest on the grounds of the Spencer Thayer museum, the Classical museum in Freer hall, the exhibition of pictures, third floor building and the Geological museum.
90: Football (Dad's Day) Game
Kansas vs. Oklahoma, Memorial
stadium. Euffers will attend as
the K. U., Athletic Association.
The staff of the School of Business has voted to add the course in Business curriculum and to add the Introductory course in marketing to the accounting curriculum. New courses will be added, including Reserve System, and savings. And trust functions were substituted for mortgage banking credit in finance curriculum.
It was also voted to modify the suspension rules of the School of Business. As they now read they provide for the suspension for one semi-annual period, a "forty percent or more" of his enrollment. Formerly they eliminated the student who failed in forty-one percent or more of his courses. The new play will result in the suspension if the student who fails in 36 hours out of fifteen.
New Courses Approved
Business School Also Changes Suspension Rule
the aquamoreum item at Northern Iowa has adopted purple brush cotton, a material their class emblem. This is the first time that the aquamoreum class fabric is used on brush cotton.
If anyone had happened to wander into the basement of Fowler Shops Tuesday during the 11:30 hour they would have come upon a small attentive group of eager-faced young women, clad in blue denim overalls, listening intently to instructions. They were members of the Women's Team.
"Some" Women Wear Blue Denim Overalls
The sergeant, concluding his talk by stressing the importance of the trigger pull, assigned the women to their places on the target range parapet, after insulting Windchester fields firing a 32 calibre shell.
From the prone position, shooting over a miniature battlefield at targets 52 feet away, bulls-eyes were conducted by practically the entire team. This is considered that most of them ad, never handled a gun before.
Practice, lasting about fifteen minutes, during which the potential damage of a piece was encountered on the correct handling of the pieces, was brought to an end with a short talk on the care of the rifle after using it. The firearm is filleted off-section at the east end of the floor which serves as a dressing room.
20 Students Collect Large Sum in First Night of Y. M. Drive
Approximately 81190 was collected by student workers for the Y, M, C. A organization, in association with the night light on the campus. The amount is somewhat better than last year's figures, according to Shattie, general secretary.
Smaller Subscriptions Needed According to Campaign Managers
one hundred and twenty workers gathered that night at the University Cafeteria for the banquet where they heard Paul B. Lawson, associate dean of the college and various leaders of the Y. M. C. A. and its functions.
Prof. Lawson believes that the Y. M. C. A. is the only campus organization dedicated to the principles and teachings of Jesus Christ and research that is why I am interested in the University Y. M. C. A. I feel that the organization on this campus is undegradically and experimentally promoting an academic type of program needed in college life today."
Smaller contributions are wanted by the organization rather than large ones. But a large number of dent feeling is unkindly toward the Y M C A, Ted Shuts, general
The four division managers in the drive, Clarece M. Guireau, c29, Bear Ridge and Mont. Chair Spear, 130, all spoke for the benefit of their respective team captains and members. Parks staff were divided geographically to the workers and territory was divided geographically. The workers were told to report back to the office.
Weather
Charles Sweet, managing editor of the Topo da Pedra Daily capital, will speak to members of Sigma Delta Chi professional journalism fraternity on topics relevant to the Colonial Tea Room. The talk is to be strictly professional and upon the different problems of journalism and how they are handled by the Capper publicist.
A complete report of the funds obtained by the organization will not be available until tonight when a fund report is issued. The campaign will continue today.
Rain probable tonight and Friday
other Friday.
Sigma Delta Chi to Hear Talk by Topeka Editor
Acacia, house, 12 p. m.
Phi Delta Theta, house, 12
p. m.
--p. m.
Kappa Alpha Theta, house,
12 n. m.
Friday, Nov. 16
Kappa Kappa Gamma, house 1 a. m
Phi Beta Pi, Eldridge Hotel 1 a. m.
--p. m.
Kappa Alpha Theta, house,
12 n. m.
Alpha Chi Omega, house, 12 p. m.
Alpha Chi Omega, house, 12
12 p. m,
Watking Hall, house, 1 a. m.
Watkins Hall, house, 1 s. m.
Saturday, Nov. 17
Saturday, Nov. 17
Dads' Day Varsity, Robinson
Gymnasium, 12 p. m.
Agnes Husband,
Dean of Women
British Officials Will Investigate Vestris Disaster
Reasons Must Be Found for Sinking of Ship and Huge Loss of Lives
London, Nov. 15. (UP) - A thorough investigation of the sinking of the British steamer Vestris will be conducted. The official announcement said today.
"The board of trade considers that it must make a searching investigation of all circumstances concerning the loss of the ship and the loss of life of the boat, but no position decide what it for fear in inquiry or take where or when it should be held."
New York, Nov. 15. (UP)—The Federal Government opened before United States Commissioner Francis W. McGregor the sinking Monday of the British steamer Vestris, 240 miles from the Virginia Capitol, losing two probes and including an escape.
The proceedings began at 2:15 p. m., when United States Attorney C. Tattle dialed a formal com- munication to the ground for such an investigation.
The first witness was Fred *N.* Puppie of Brooklyn, who was aboard the Vestris en route to Argentina to visit her family. The wife and baby are missing. Puppie testified that "everything was careless" aboard the Vestris from the start of the trip. Even his baggage was accidentally into the state room, he said.
Crew Say Coal Port Leaked
Crew Say Coal Port Lease.
Of course will make every effort to help, but if the lifeboats were unfit for service, as charged by passengers, if they were not equipped beyond the point of safety, and if there was blundering and needless damage, the boats would be.
One of the principal stories to be checked is that a cool port in the side of the Vestri, just above the water was so defective that it admitted water.
Members of the stoker crew of the Vestris said that water poured through the port, flooding the interior of the ship.
D. Doten, negro fireman, told of the last hours in the engine room and he said the men were forced to work in water that at times was up to their
"A port door, 7 by 7, was open when we left New York Saturday. It was dark and we were out, but we struck the storm the water poured in. The coal compartment was flooded and from 4 to 8 a.m. Sunday we could see a hole where the fire was able to get a little "weak" oil.
Joshua Ford told a story similar to that of Dotten and added, "Captain Carey should have sent out the SOS mission rather than wait until Monday."
The stories told by the 57 survivors brought in to this morning from the Myriam corresponded to those told by the boatwreck. The shipman and the Berlin westerly,
Stories Correspond
They told of the list of the 10,000 ton ship, of the great waves of the mad confusion after "to the lifeboats" had been shouted, of the scramble it was to use, of the invasion of the intrash of sea into the hold and engine room, of the final lurch which took down the Vestricla and its captain, of the ship, of whose chose to go down with his vessel.
One no one tried to explain the cause of the disaster. Some of the seamen blamed the captain for not giving an SOS earlier.
Other angles which will be investigated were:
1. The charge made by survivors that Capt. William J. Carey sent out an SOS call on Sunday and they sent back another call on the other call until the ship was sinking.
2. The charge that the life boats were fragile, that some had holes in them, and that the Davits were not in proper shape for launching the ship.
3. Statements of passengers that the life boats were improperly launched, causing the first two, children and women, to be amputated.
4. Statements of survivors that some members of the crew thought more of their own safety than that of others were picked up struggling people from the water, in the fear that their boats would be damaged and their own lives endangered.
Swarthout Will Attend Meeting At Iowa City
Dean D. M, Swarthout of the School of Fine Arts will be in Iowa City to mornow and Saturday to attend the third annual meeting of the Association of Musical Executives of State Schools. He will return Sunday morning.
Initials to Be Formed by the Cheering Section
The letters O, U, and K, U will be formed with cards between halves by the student cheering section at Oswego-Ka - U. U football game Saturday.
All students who have seats numbers 10, 6, 20, or 50 will form the letters. Instructions and the cards will be tacked on the seats. Saturday morning
"All cards should be kept as they are expensive," Paul Parker the head cheerleader said this morning. He also asked that all students remain in their seats between halves in order to make the presentation of the game easier. The crowd is asked to follow closely the instructions of the cheerleaders.
Plans for Dad's Day Program Announced by Wealthy Babcock
Nebraska and schools in the Big Ten have used this plan with success, including at the Nebraska game but due to the inclement weather it was postponed.
Chancellor Is to Give Address
Bill Hargiss and Lindsey
Will Both Talk
The part definitively arranged for includes: Address of welcome by Chan Ling; name and address of the data; species by Arian Lindsey, coach of the Oklahoma team and Bill Hargas, the Kansas coach; main actors in the episode "97. Independence, K.K.; presentation of prizes to the dad who comes with his son"; has the greatest number of children enrolled in the University and the house having the largest percentage
Part of the program for the Dad's day dinner in the Union building Saturday evening, Nov. 17, was announced this morning by Miss Wesley Bakebook of the mathematics department prograrm committee for the banquet.
There will probably be music by both the men's and women's glee clubs.
Tickets will be on sale by the Second Generation Club today but after today they may be obtained only in person or online. Reservations should be made immediately as it is necessary that the dinner committee know for how many to prepare. These may be broken lace, or cannot be kept, Miss Babcock said.
Coach Hargis has accepted the invitation to attend on behalf of the University coaches and team and has indicated a large attendance by these
Lindley's Give Reception
Nearly 400 Faculty Members
Present Last Night.
Chanellor and Mrs. E. H. Lindley entertained nearly four hundred members of the faculty and their wives evening at Spooner-Tayer museum.
Assisting wean Dean and Mrs. J, H. Dyer, Dean and Mrs. E, B. Hllouer, Dean and Mrs. R. A. Schwegler, Dean and Mrs. George C. Shand, Dean and Mrs. George C. Shand, Frank T. Stockton, Dean and Mrs. Donald M. Swarthwalt, Acting Dean and Mrs. Philo Mueller, Dean and Mrs. J. G. Brandt, Dr. and Mrs. C. F. Brantz, Dr. and Mrs. William L. Burckhoff, Dr. and Mrs. W. S. Johnson, Prof. and Mrs. F. E. Kester, Mr. and Mrs. George O. Foster, Dr. and Mrs. F. C. Allen, Mimi Minneie Miao, Miss Galoo and Miss Alberta.
in the refreshment room, Mrs. Mechem, Mrs. Dyer, Mrs. Henry Wrenner, Mrs. Pike, Mrs. Dean Agues, Husband and Mrs. F. B. Dains were in general charge, Mrs. Havenhil and Mrs. Nelson invited the guests to the refreshment room.
Serving were a dozen young women students. These included Katherine Clark, Joan Hornade DeVeau, Kathie Dockborn, Margaret Dreemann, Nicole McKinnon, John Mearce, John Moore, John Nadine Miller, Vivian Skilton Inanna Slawson and Swinger
Ten University Women Taken Into Outing Club
ten women of the University were initiated in Kansas Outing club yesterday afternoon in Robinson gymnasium, where they practiced the purpose and point system of Outing club were explained and initiated took vows to support the con-
Following the initiation, plans for a Saturday hike to Broadview Inn were discussed and it was decided to hold a business meeting of the entire group in the gym near their day evening in the gymnasium at 7:30 p. m.
Kansas Activities 'Jolly Fine, Really,' Says Sidney Team
Australians Find American Hospitality Delightful;
Say Kangeroos
Can Jump
"Oh, jolly, really! I was struck by the activity of the place. Paper flying about, buildings going up, a very attractive campus." That, in his own words, is the impression K. U. gave visitors during his short stay here.
"We find," he said, "the Americans most delightful. The hospitality and friendliness appeals to us, and the guests make our stay more enjoyable." However, there are a few things our guests from Australia would change in order to feel as if instance, which they admit for the most part is not so likable. Then there is the custom of afternoon tea, a deeply embedded institution in Australian that makes the experience more where, apparently were they invited to partake of afternoon tea.
"What is your idea, anyway, of people who drink pink tea?" Mr. H, G. Godsall, one of the visitors asked. "How did you do it? How marked of effeminacy?" Surely we drink pink tea; and we were considerably surprised when we found that such an act seems to the western world. How could 'don't chauk know' Englishman."
Notice Speech Difference
Americans notice differences too, especially in speech. The difference in the pronunciation of long "a" is probably the most marked to the American speaking. States sound a little more like Sties, yesterday like yesterday, and grape-fruit—well, do we don't wonder that the waiter in one of the hotels in which the men from Sydney are eating that object that be 'adult' any such fruit.
The University of Sydney from which the Australian debaters come is the largest and oldest in Australia. There are 2,400 students enrolled in the university, many of whom girls, Mr. Godsill said, "don't take it up as much in Australia as they do here. In classes they collect together on the front seats of the classrooms. University men never speak to women unless they are well acquainted."
Students Keen on Sports
Students Keen on Sports
The Australian student is an keen on sports. Rugby football, cricket and tennis are the favorites in Austra-
lium.
But here is a surprise. Our guests from Australia don't know how far a kangaroo can jump. In fact they don't even know where to leapagle. Although they added too that a kangaroo can jump rather far. At least their illusions of kangaroo altralias as Mr. Steffanion destroyed them in connection with Eskimos.
Mr. H. G. Godsall, W. S. Sheldon, and N. C. Nelson are making their first trip to America just one month when they arrived in Lawrence. They are conducting 33 debates, principally between the candidates for time they will be here. In one week they participated in five debates. Their stay in America will last until March.
Men Tell of Plane Crash Survivor of Wreck Is Former K. U. Student
San Antonio, Texas, Nov. 15, (UP)
—The six soldiers killed yesterday when a transport plane crashed near here, were trapped in the cabin by folds of an open parachute, an invasiveness the wrecked bipane revealed today.
Two men leaped off the falling plane and floated to safety in their hands. He was D. Feyer, pilot, of Roverly, Kame, and Sr. Frank J. Sieblerman of Milau-
Lieutenant Dyer said the big plane went out of control at an altitude of 3,000 feet. He said he shouted to the military and Siebenhorn, overseas seals, leaped.
Wing fittings of the plane, investigating officers said, crushing the aircraft and killing two people after the two men had leaped, the right wing broke from the plane and
The victims of the accident had vol-unteered to take the flight so that six officers who were scheduled to get in some flying time might attend a seminar. The plane had much several flights during the day and had performed well.
Lieutenant Dyer was a student in the University in 22, 23 and 26, and was a member of the Acacia fraternity.