* e n s w n e o > e w d y n of e s, e d g Tuesday, September 6, 1977 University Daily Kansan 5 Sachem decision sparks debate Because Sachem, the senior men's honor society, has this year voted to remain all-male, Mortar Board, an honor society that questioned Sachem's leafless to the University. Ann Warner, Hutchinson senior and president of Mortar Board, said last week that she was bothered by some of Sachem's ties with the University. "They are still referred to as a University organization," she said. Sachem dropped its affiliation with the University two years ago when it refused to admit female members—a violation of Title IX guidelines. However, members of the University administration unofficially participate in Sachem activities, such as induction ceremonies. Chancellor Archie R. Dykes has acknowledged that participation but said he also participated in induction ceremonies for other organizations that weren't affiliated with the University. HE SAID that Sachem received no "significant support" from the University and that he didn't think the University was "perpetuating a discriminatory situation, consciously or unconsciously" in its dealings with Sachem. Jeff Rhoads, Leawood senior and Sachm president, said recently that to change the society's single-sex status would be a compromise of its long and unique history. he reserved to an obligation to the alumni of Sachen as a factor in the society's decision to continue in the all-male tradition started at KU in 1910. "We feel we can't compromise," Rhonda said. "We choose, rather than to become victims of our own mistakes." He said that there had been overwhelming support from alumni for the society to remain all-male. He also said that a primary function of the group was to conduct research for the University and that the function had not been stiffened by the group's refusal to comply with Title IX. RHOADS SAID that the society's relations with the University administration remained basically unchanged, but that the group could not receive any funds from KU. Although Warner expressed disagreement with Sachem's decision to remain all-male, she said, a change would have to come from within the group. "All I can do is keep the matter an important matter by continuing to protest," she said. "It is their organization and their decision." Mortar Board has experienced no major problems with its decision to go coed, Warner said, and the society hasn't received any complaints from alumni. The only problem areas are Mortar Board's traditional focus on women's rights and competition with Sachem for male members. JOHN MUELLER, Winfield senior, and a member of both Sachem and Mortar Board, was the sole dissenter in the vote to remain all-male. "In a leadership organization there is room for progressive action," he said. "To discriminate in the name of excellence is not right." Lobby ... From page one positively affected their vote on legislation; 83 per cent disagreed; one per cent had no - Only 6 per cent thought student activity fees should be used to finance lobbying; 90 per cent disagreed; four per cent had no opinion. - 26 per cent said they would advise a consultant to have the CD, 48 disagressed; 25 per cent had no opinion. - DUNCAN SAID CSHE would concentrate on the issues that would come before regulatory issues. - The graduate fee waiver, which would exempt grad students from 25 to 100 per cent of their university fees, including the costs of teaching and spent teaching each week. CSHE will endorse the waiver because, according to a CSHE handout "KU would attract better teaching assistants because of improvement in faculty, which the fee waiver would represent." - Improved library conditions at Watson Library, including longer library hours. - Improved library facilities at Library has dropped from 14th to 48th place in the acquisition of new books among the 100 largest U.S. universities. It also has the highest library hours of all Big Eight schools. - Women's intercollegiate athletics at KU. The Senate has funded women's athletics for this year, but it declared last spring that it would no longer fund them. CSHW needs to insure that the students will keep them at the level of the Bie Eight schools. Duncan said. A PLAN OF operation for CSHE has not been approved yet, but a planned Plan E will be presented to the CSHE committee tomorrow night for approval. "Senators are divided on the issue of students' lobbying in Topeka," he said. "There are advantages and disadvantages to this." Duncan can an advantage would be that regulators might be more persuaded by the actions of corporations. Ralph Manyan, student body vicepresident, said that a disadvantage to the lobbying in Topeka by students would be that many of his HSC look too much like a professional group. "CSHE is a student group formed to serve students." "Munyan said." Muyan said he thought Plan E was an excellent plan. Mueller agreed that alumni were a big part of Sachem and acknowledged the strong ties between alumni and present society members. "We have put a lot of time into this plan and have come up with some good ideas," he said. "If the committee doesn't approve this, it will be back to the drawing board." However, he said the group's policy might change in the next few years because the sophomore honor society already had gone coel and those members might have an influence on Sachem rules in the future. influences. 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