Tuesday, November 14, 1972 3 Route for GI Payments Lengthy By HARRY WILSON Kansan Staff Writer From Lawrence to Wichita and back. From Lawrence to Wichita to Hines, III., to Lawrence to Wichita to Hines, IV. This is the route that government forms, computer printouts and checks travel before many University of Kansas military veterans receive their first G. Bill card. This may not be changed, and there are many chances for error and delay along the way. Yet, according to counselors, Veterans Administration officials and University officials, few delays and errors occur in their work. People and forms involved in the process. THE PROCESS begins when a veteran submits his application, form 21E-1900, for eligibility for GI Bill benefits - at any time. He may be enrolled at or at the Veterans Administration office or at any 'When they're discharged they just want to get the heck out of here.' neck out of here. University, William L. Kelly, registrar, said. The veteran or the University sends the form to the main office of the Veterans Administration in the veteran's home state. If the veteran is a Kansas resident, the form goes to the Veterans Administration in Wichita. A copy of the veteran's discharge papers, form DD 214, must be sent in with application for eligibility form, John P. Gere, a medical examiner, or Veterans' Commission, said. If the veteran has dependents, proof that he does have dependents must also be sent in with the application for eligibility if the veteran is to receive the full benefits he is entitled to, AT THE Veterans Administration office the eligibility forms are processed and certificates of eligibility are sent to the veterans. It takes approximately three weeks for the Veterans Administration Countryman, of the Veterans Administration in Wichita, said. Campus Briefs Urban Ugliness European Club Eugene Smith, industrial designer with offices in Bath, Ohio, and Munich, Germany, will be at Kansas University Wednesday. Smith will lecture at 1:30 p.m. in Woodruff Auditorium in the Kansas Union. The lecture, entitled "Why Ugliest-Why Weiglest" would be organized or urban visual pollution. The lecture would include a slide display of some of the problems of cities and also some slides of successful urban design projects. Three German students will speak at the European Club meeting at 7:30 p.m. Wednesday in the Sunflower Room of the Kansas Union on the post-war German student movement. The speakers are Anita Gronebe, special graduate student, Antia Groneberg, special graduate student and Gerhard Schnepel, liberal arts junior. Engineerettes The KU Engineerettes will meet 7 p.m. Wednesday in the University State Bank Meeting Room at 955 Iowa St. for a casserole sampling party. Delinquency "Juvenile Concern for Children in Trouble" will be the subject of Lawrence town meeting at 7:30 tonight at South Junior High. The meeting will be sponsored by the City Council of the PTA, the Douglas County Commissioners and the law enforcement court staff. Participants will be invited to local program for delinquent juveniles and to recruit more volunteers to staff the program. In connection with the discussion, a film, "A Second Chance," will be shown. Sigma Psi Talk An error about the date of the meeting of the University of Kansas Chapter of Sigma Pi was made in Friday's edition of the book *The University of Kansas*. The meeting is scheduled for 7-30月. 411 Summerfield Hall, Richard L. Schiefhelbuß, professor of speech and drama, will speak on "The Odyssey of a Confused Scientist." He is director of the Kansas Center for Mental Retardation and of the Kansas Center of Mental Retardation and Human Development. The veteran then takes the certification of eligibility to the school where he is enrolling to get his enrollment verified. The school verifies his enrollment and sends two copies of the certification of enrollment form to the school. One of these is sent back to the school. Kelly said, 1,240 of these enrollment certifications—1,131 for veterans and 73 for war orphans and widows, who are also eligible for benefits—were typed up and between the beginning of enrollment, Aug. 23, and the second day of classes, Aug. 29. Countryman said the Veterans Administration office in Wichita usually sent the awards to Hines one to two weeks after it received the enrollment certifications. After the awards were received at Hines, checks were mailed to the veterans, he said. From the enrollment certification and information sent in with the application for eligibility, the Veterans Administration determines what benefits the veteran is entitled to and sends an award, stating the amount of money the veteran is to receive, to a government data processing center in Hines, IL. From Hines the payment awards are determined from the government center in Kansas City, Mo., which issues checks to veterans at KU. The entire process, from the time the veteran sends in his application for eligibility until the time he receives his first kakes, takes about nine weeks. Countryman said. Therapy Panel A panel on the treatment of knee injuries will be presented by the Northeastern chapter of the American Physical Therapy Association at 7 tonight in the Jahawkay conference room. The presentation will follow the regular business meeting of the KU Physical Therapy Club. FOR THOSE veterans who return for another term at the school where they had received GI Bill benefits the term before, the procedure is much simpler. They only have to make sure their enrollments are accurate and come to receive checks, Countryman said. There is also a procedure for veterans who transfer from a school in one state to a school in another state. They have to apply for a change of place of training. Counsellors must be present for weeks for the veteran's records to be sent to the Wichita office from another state after the veteran had applied for a change of place of training. Then the veteran's records are finished again and his enrollment certified. If this is done, the process is the same. Countryman said the process for a change of place of training took about six to eight weeks, about as long as an original application. The procedure for war orphans and wives is the same as the procedure for veterinary orphans, but eligibility are different. Until recently they were required to have counseling but not veterinary care. WITH THE NEXT to the last check of each term a certification of attendance card is issued. The form can be downloaded. in this card to the Veterans Administration to verify that he attended school during the "A lot of students throw this card away and this creates problems," Countryman said. "If we do not get this card, we have to deal with it and send out a good and send out an overpayment card." The length of time it takes for a veteran to receive a check depends on many factors. 'Checks for all institutions of higher learning were issued at approximately the same time.' Delays are possible every time a form changes hands. Problems arise when a veteran does not send in a certain form or does not send in forms at the optimum time. The number of forms to be processed is also a factor. The procedure for war orphans and widows is the same as the procedure for veterans, except that their applications for eligibility are different. Until recently they were required to have counseling but not any more. Countryman said. "A lot of students throw this card away and this creates problems," Countryman said. "If we do not get this card, we have to pay for it." He would look good and send out an overaward card." WITH THE next to the last check of each term a certification of attendance card is sent to the veterian. The veterian must send in this card to the Veterans Administration to verify that he attended school during the term. The length of time it takes for a veteran to receive a check depends on many factors. For example, the number of changes hands. Problems arise when a veteran does not send in a certain form or does not send in forms at the optimum time, in forms of the process is also a factor. Countryman said the large number of forms to be processed by the Wichita office was not enough, so he put there. Since certifications of enrollment from schools in Kansas came into the Wichita office almost all in the form of letters and documents were not considered delayed, he said. "Cheeks for all institutions of higher learning were issued at approximately the same time. We did not consider them late," he said. COUNTRYMAN said that most checks for September were sent out the 5th or 6th of October and that checks were usually used out between the 5th and 10th of the month. However, the system of payments was changed this month under the Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Act of 1972, signed into law by President Richard Nixon Oct. 4, and coming at the end of the month, are being made at the beginning of the month. Countryman said. "They used to come out the 10th or 15th." University Daily Kansan To change to the new system the Wichita office awarded veterans their October and November payments at the beginning of November, according to Dwight E. Bishard, chief of the interviews section of the Veterans Administration in Wichita. THE NEW law also called for increases in veterans benefits for full and part-time students. Full-time students are getting $220 per month if they are single, $261 if they are dependent, $286 if they have two dependent and $18 for each additional dependent. Payments are retroactive to Sept. 1, currently effective through Sept. 30. payment is October and November includes $220 for October, $220 for November, and $48 payable for September for a year. Gere said many veterans did not listen to their discharge about their entitlements. Gere cited the veteran's lack of knowledge of the payment system and faulty administration as the reasons for some payment delays. "When they're discharged, they just want to the heck out of there." Gere said. "We're trying to get them out faster." GERE SAID that veterans were changed GERE SAID that veterans often experienced payment delays Complete Automobile Insurance For Gene Doane Agency VI 3-3012 324 Mass. St. Seven University of Kansas debate teams swept through Oklahoma and Texas this past week to earn honors in three debate tournaments. Debaters Take Honors In Three Tournaments Coach Donn Parson, associate professor of speech and drama, said the wins represented the largest number of KU debaters to earn honors in a given week. KU's greatest victory came at the Bronco Invitational of Central Oklahoma State College in Edmond. KU teams took first place in both divisions of the cross-examination tournament after 5-1 records in the preliminary rounds. Dan Stanley, Bethel sophomore, and Tom Darby, Leawood junior, won the senior division and Jim Prentice, Turon freshman, won the junior division, and Tex., freshman, won the junior division. Charles Whiteman, Atlantic, Iowa, freshman, and Stewart Bishop, Topeka freshman, took four place in the junior division after a 4-2 record in the preliminary rounds. At one of the largest tournaments in the nation, the Fur of the Cougar Gala Invitational at the University of Houston, KU's top-ranked Bill Russell, Omaha senior, took fourth place among 12 teams from across the United States. The team of Russell and Hensley were the only undefeated team in the preliminary rounds. They were ranked first after the second round and continued to hold that ranking until they lost a 2-1 decision in the quarter finals. Of the 22 debaters in the tournament, Russell received the second-place speaker award and Henley received the fifth-place speaker award. In Fort Worth, at the Horn Frogs Mid-week special of Texas Christian University, Joel Goldman, Overland Park junior, and Frank Stewart, Manhattan, Kan., sophomore, won another fourth place for KU. In two of the tournaments, KU teams won recognition for placing 17th, which means they were the best team not to enter the elimination rounds. Todd Hunter, Oklahoma City sophomore, and Lydia Beebe, McPherson junior, were ninth at Houston and Webb State. Carthage was tenth at Houston midnight, Houston junior, were 17th at TCU. KU debate teams will travel next to Wichita State University, Wake Forest University, Winston-Salem, N.C., and Georgetown University, Washington, D.C. SOL MARKS, district director of the immigration and naturalization service in the United States, said he effort aimed at preventing similar incidents in the United States focused only on individuals the government had reason to believe were planning terrorism," according to the article. The article also said that the Nixon administration was acting on a promise by the President to protect Israeli citizens in the United States from acts of terrorism. Our Vittles are jest rite fur you yur kin, and yur dollars . . . STEAKS AND CHICKEN BAR-B-QUE SALADS, SANDWICHES SEAFOOD In an AUH newsletter of Oct. 13, 1972, the administrative measures were taken to "screen Arab residents and travelers who are interested in believe might be planning terrorism." Open Weekdays 11-9 Sundays 11-8 Closed Tuesdays The project, named by the Kansas City Star as "Operation: Boulder," was being conducted in all parts of the United States, according to Ahmad Salabv of Lawrence. According to a New York Times article Oct. 5, 1972, an operation of gathering information had begun in the United States to track the deaths of Olympic athletes in Munich during the Olympics. IFFEN YOU LAK WE CAN FIX ALL THESE VITTLES TO GO Gloon's W Iowa Street N The Chuck Wagon 21st St. THESE VITTLES TO GO Arab Allegations . . . 843-9844 2408 IOWA STREET (Continued from page 1) evenings, William Rowlands, told Al ADani he too had been approached by men claiming to be agents on occasions concerning activities there. David Culp, Al Adanwu's attorney, said the alleged harassments by law enforcement officers were "over-zenolous, preventive medicine." Cul also said that this type of activity by the FBI should be stopped until they can go to the Arabs and charge them with a crime, if there has been one. He said that he had most of the same rights and privileges of any U.S. citizen, including due process. Kathy Allen, Topека sophomore and vice president of the student body, also present at the committee meeting, thought the harassments were "preventive" in nature. ACORDING TO attorneys with a Civil Liberties Committee of the Association of Arab-American University Graduates (AUAG), "The U.S. Constitution and the Federal Judgment require us within the United States, including all aliens, whether permanent residents, visitors or illegal entrants. No one need answer any questions or respond to any inquiry from any official source unless the person presents a valid court order (subpoena)." Ferer said that this was "dangerous thinking," and that the Arab students had the "fear of deportation without due process hanging over their heads." Norman Forer, International Club adviser at a meeting of the Arab Student Executive Committee on Nov. 4, he said could only speculate about reasons for the harassments and interrogations. He said, "Because of the Middle-East situation, the mere presence of the Arab students is being considered a conspiracy by some." President of the AAUG, Abdeen M. Jabara, Arab aliens and residents are allegedly been harassed elsewhere in the U.S. AAUG cited incidents of two Palestinians arrested and jailed for five days in Dallas in early October. ONE KANAS CITY, Missouri who is a permanent resident Arab student was arrested and jailed for two days. He allegedly was not told why he had been released on the two days in jail he was released on $2,000 bond raised by the community. Upon his release from jail, his permanent residence card was taken from him. This card identifies the identification card which all permanent residents aliens are to carry. One line on the card read, "If I years or older you are required to have this card with you at all times." According to one Arab student, not carrying the card would be like male students. OTHER incidents reported by AUAG officials include one Lebanese student in Glendale, Artz. who was a student at the University of Chicago and several employees of the Arab-League offices in Washington, Chicago and Dallas who allegedly were followed by FBI agents 24 hours a day for 10 consecutive days in November, according to the AUAG officials. Anges Barnhill, assistant registrar, said Monday that the University was obliged to give officers of law enforcement agencies information they requested, according to the rules in the Senate Code of March, 1970. She said this included the school the student was in, his classification and a rating of that student's progress. She said she was not concerned that the student "something like good, average, superior." She said she was not familiar with information being given out for use by the FBI recently. The KU Arab students are concerned about how the FBI can get so much information on them to use to scare them, according to Al Adwani. The Kansas City FBI office neither confirmed nor denied the allegations of FBI information gathering on Arabs in Lawrence or elsewhere in the United States. SMU School of Law A representative of the SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW, DUKE UNIVERSITY will be on campus Tuesday, November 14, 1972. job will require training in requirements and financial assistance, by application or in open meeting at 3:00 p.m. in the auditorium. He will specifically represent the Matton W. Summers Foundation which grants several thousand year scholarships to students in a total amount of $11,000. To make appointments see Mrs. Gladys Padget, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences, 208 Strong HAIT. IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS FOR ACQUIRING YOUR STUDENT BASKETBALL SEASON TICKET Starting Wednesday, Nov. 15 thru Friday, Nov. 17 $ ^{ \circ} $ ,1972 *(Or until the 7,500 Season Tickets are sold, which comes first!) 1:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m. 1. Go to the main lobby (East) of Allen Field House 2. Present I.D. Card and imprinted Certificate of Registration at Table 1 and pick up your IBM card. 3. Take IBM card to Table 2 and receive your Student Basketball Season Ticket upon payment of $5.50. 4. Sign your Student Season Ticket and write your student number on the ticket in the presence of the ticket seller. 5. Senior season tickets may be purchased for $10.50. Housemother season tickets may be applied for at this - Spouse season tickets may be purchased for $10.00 . . . Housemaster season tickets may be applied for at this location and are available only for students of the student basketball ball season tickets will be valid only if accompanied by the Spring, 1973 Certificate of Registration. SINGLE GAME STUDENT TICKET A total of 300 student tickets will be available on an individual game basis for students who do not purchase a season ticket. These *individual* student tickets will be sold at Allen Field House ONLY on the day of the basketball game from 8:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. The student price for individual game tickets is $75 and the spouse price for individual game tickets will be $100 • Information at Bottom of Page (SINGLE GAME STUDENT TESTINGS) SOLD AFTER 5:00 P.M. THE DAY OF THE GAME, ALSO, THERE WILL BE NO ADVANCED SALE The Athletic Seating Board guarantees every student who buys a season ticket a seat for every home game. The A.S.B. further encourages all students to arrive early to watch the preliminary Jr. X-Visity games at 5:00 p.m. and to support the varsity Jayhawks during their pre-game warm-ups. ALL VARSITY GAMES WILL BEGIN AT 7:35 P.M. EXCEPT THE JAYHAWK CLASSIC* (See Below) DEC 15-16 WHICH STARTS AT 7:05 P.M. and the Kansas vs. Iowa state Game mar. 10 at 1:10 p.m. BE SURE TO SEE THE 1972-73 BASKETBALL PREVIEW, THE ANNUAL CRIMSON-BLUE GAME TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28TH AT 1:35AM IN ALLEN FIELD HOUSE. YOUR K.I.D. I CARD AND CERTIFICATION OF REGISTRY WILL ADMIT YOU 1 The Joyhawk Classic Invitational Tournament is not included in the Student Season Ticket, but each student will have the option of purchase Joyhawk Classic tickets at the same time they apply for their student season tickets. The reduced rate for student tickets for the Joyhawk Classic will be $1.60 per night, as compared to $3.50 per night at public prices. SINGLE GAME TICKETS for KU students for the Joyhawk Classic will not be purchased at the time they apply for their student season tickets, will be sold on the day of the game from 8:30 a.m.-5:00 p.m.