Wednesday, November 1, 1972 3 Separate KU Senates Proposed By CAROLYN OLSON Kansan Staff Writer A proposal which would divide the governance of the University of Kansas into similar but separate bodies, one at Lawrence and one at the University of Kansas Medical Center, will be discussed by the University Senate Nov. 9. The University Senate, composed of the chancellor, the vice chancellors and the Faculty and Student Senates, will consider revisions to the 1970 Senate code. Richard Von Ende, executive secretary, said there were about 1,100 members of the University Senate and a quorum of 20 per member. Members was required to transact business. VON ENDE SAID there was some concern about getting a quorum for the November meeting, Chancellor Raymond Nichols said that last spring, three University Senate meetings were canceled because a quorum couldn't be reached. Von Ende said discussion of the code revisions weren't exact high on the interface. "If there is a continuance of the discussion of the code revisions to another meeting, interest will lag and it will be harder to get a quorum," he said. Ronald Calgaard, associate professor of economics and presiding officer of the Senate Executive Committee (SenEx), said "most people haven't really thought about the code revisions unless they are in University Council." THE CODE REVISIONS were proposed by the Organization and Administration (O&A) committee of the University Council to authorize an update by the University Council last spring. James Moeser, professor of organ and chairman of the OKA Committee, said the committee met at least once each week during the summer session to propose revisions to the code to present to the University Council for approval. The code revisions were approved Oct. 20 and amended by the University Council and amended by the University Council. Provisions in the code call for separation of the governance, for a mail ballot, for guaranteed graduate student representation in University Council, for granting more power to the University Council and for membership in Faculty Council to some unenured faculty members and some unclassified university personnel. THE ALL-UNIVERSITY SENATE, as outlined by the proposed code revision, would be composed of the members of the University Senate at the Kansas City campus and the University Senate here, with the chancellor as the presiding officer. The Senate would also have a mandatory meeting of the All-University Senate, Calizaard said. "For all we know, the All-University Senate may never have meet," Calgaird said, "That way we don't have to fight the quorum problem." Calgair said the University Council thought the Medical Center should develop its own clinic. HE SAID there was a very sizable difference in the two KU campuses and therefore, the Medical Center needed its own government. The revised senate code provides for the use of a mail ballot for the All-University Senate, the Faculty Senate of the Lawrence University, and the Lawrence campus. The mail ballot will be used if one-third of the members present request it. When the mail ballot is sent, the executive secretary is to attach a concise list of arguments for and against the proposal. "I think it is important to be at a meeting to hear both sides of an argument," Nichols said. "And with the mail ballot, the voter can easily understand both sides of a question." 'DAVE DILLON, Hutchinson senior and student body president, said the mail ballot would decrease student input into the governing bodies because students usually attended the meetings while faculty members did not. The 10 student senators on the ballot were Hill and Dillon, an ex officio member, voted against the mail ballot proposal. Graduate students were also granted two guaranteed positions on the University of Pennsylvania. Caligan said it was very hard to provide representation for graduate students because a graduate student really did not understand of the student body or a part of the faculty. bursing of 10 students, 39 faculty members, the chancellor and the president of the PREVIOUSLY, the graduate students were usually included with the student senate representatives in their slate of 10 representatives, to the University Council. The University Council, as outlined in the proposed amendments to the Senate Code, will act on behalf of the University Senate. The Council will act as the legislative body of the University Senate will be the reviewing body, as proposed in the revisions. Von Ende said this proposal was made because it was easier to get a quorum of the University Council than the University Senate. One of the other major proposals to the Senate Code was a measure to allow non-tenured members of the faculty, such as instructors, lecturers, teaching associates or adjunct professors to be members of the Faculty Senate. ALSO GRANTED MEMBERSHIP in the Faculty Students were unclassified academic staff members in several divisions of the University, such as the Geologic Survey, Bureau of Child Research, Institute for Social and Environmental Studies, the Calgary said this proposal would allow about 25-30 persons to be members of the Faculty Senate if they had achieved the required level in their field, such as Ph.D. in many areas. Extramural Independent Study Center and Continuing Education. Nichols said he was in favor of granting membership in the Faculty Senate to the 25th class. "I want them to be a part of the family of the University community," Nichols said. 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