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THE UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN
Vol. XXII
English Debating Like Parliament, Says Debate Coach
New Style of Arguing to Be Heard When Oxford Men Meet K. U. Team October 20
"If one has to summarize the difference between the systems of debating at American and English Universities, it is most easy to do so by saying that, whereas all American debating is an imitation of the British style of parliamentary proof of Parliament," said Prof Bryan A. Gilkinson of the department of public speaking this morning in discussing the style used by English debaters who are to debate Kansas here Oct. 20, on the question, "Resolved, that this house should be the principle of Prohibition."
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"The whole emphasis of an American debate is on the contest between two teams, "Who has won?" is the natural and always asked question. In England there are neither teams nor victories of teams nor any judgment on the merits of the debate. The reason is that it is on the merits of the question, a different thing, and it is passed by the audience.
Debating Society Like Commons
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Debating Society Like Commons
"A university in England formed a debating society is a House of Commons in miniature. It elects the president, the master of the debate, himself impartial and with only a casting vote, just as the speaker of the House of Commons. The great majority of this society's debates will be purely internal affairs. The committee will try to encourage to discuss some subjects that interests them. Whoever wishes, rises in his place, and if he is forage, attracts the president's attention, is called upon and says his say on the subject. If the society entitles members of another society as a guest, those guests come and speak, and the proposition, as their conviction or their inclinations lie.
"How does this English debate differ from a common argument," you may ask. Not very much, except in common formalities. It is under the control of a president. No one may speak, unless the president has to do so. No one of course may interrupt a speaker, except shouting to correct some direct misstatement of fact about his own opinions or actions. Certain customs of debate must be maintained, of which the chief is that "all remarks must be to the chair speaker before they are only in the third person." At the end the 'house' votes on the motion.
English Debate Informal
**English Debate Informal**
"These are but trivialities. With them all the English debate more, a thing more, in informal speech than in formal. Only incidentally does it contrast oratory with oratory. It is its object to contrast argument with argument, to produce a discussion in which the subject shall be looked at from all points of view. Such a method has a marked influence on the style of the oratory. With many speakers waiting for a hearing a man must learn to pleonage or he will be heard rather than endured. A man will make an individual conclusion rather than enlist the whole case. He will perform in competition with other individual performers. From the clash of many minds the truth may emerge."
Y.W.C.A. to Hear Shultz
"My Impressions of Europe," Subject of Talk
"My impressions of Europe," will be the subject of a speech to be made by "Ted" Shultz, Y. M. C. A. secretary, at the Y. W. Z. Tuesday afternoon, Oct. 14. Mr. Shultz spent the summer vacation in
As this is the first time that Mr. Shultz has spoken on the BII this year, the meeting will be hosted to Margery Day, a resident of the association.
"The talk will be very interesting," said Miss Day, "as Mr. Shultz made the trip by steerage, and was thus in a position to obtain varied experiences and impressions. He also attended a number of student conferences which should be of vital interest to students here."
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, LAWRENCE, KANSAS.
The open house at Corbin hall,
Friday, Oct. 10, will be well attended.
The dormitory was open to town-
people from 3:30 to 5:30 Friday af-
ternoon, and to the students and faculty
from 7:30 to 9:30 in the evening.
The open house at the dormitory is to be an annual event, given in honor of those who were influential in getting the dorm started. A was open for inspection.
In the formal receiving line were Mrs. J, M. Davis, Mrs. E, H. Lindley, Mrs. Alberta Corbin, Mrs. K, B. Murphy, Mrs. Robert Williams, Mrs. O, R. Bryant, Mrs. John Dyer, Mrs. C, E. Lindley, Mrs. F, M. Holiday, Mrs. G, L. Krucek, Mrs. F, B. Dains, Mrs. H, W. Arant, Miss Agnes Husband, Miss Elizabeth Husband, Miss Sash Missrere Brady, Daisy Ernest, Miss Arnett Brady, Daisy Ernest, Doris Herber, Meister McCauley, Mrs. O, M. Judy, Mrs. E, R. Stouffer, Mr. and Mrs. Lamberton, and Roger Williams.
State Political Parties Invited to University for Joint Discussion
Student Organizations on Hill Seek After Real Issues of Campaign
In an effort to stimulate interest and spread information on the real issues of the state political campaign a meeting is being arranged to allow representatives of the parties to discuss their sides of the question. Ralph E. Smith, president of the Sociedad Electoral Nacional, other real clubs has sent the following letter to chairman of the three political parties of the state.
The meeting is to be held on Thursday afternoon at 4:20, Oct. 23, in Fraser chapel. A copy of the letter follows:
Dear Sir: Several student organizations intrested in stimulating the thought and study of students on the issues of the imminent political crisis in the country are meeting at which the issues of this campaign may be discussed. This is to invite your party organization to send its representative to take part in this discussion to be held in France on April 12, 2014. Thursday, October 27, 1924.
Representatives of each of the three parties are being invited to take part in this discussion. The program is planned so as to give each party 25 minutes scheduled as follows, subject to possible readings; Democrats, 20 minutes; Republicans, 20 minutes; Independents, five minutes; Independents, five minutes; Democrats, five minutes.
The total time available for this meeting is an hour and thirty minutes and therefore it will be necessary to visit this or an另个 scheduled schedule).
We shall be glad to hear from you at the earliest possible moment as to whether or not your party can respond to your representative will be. We would very much like to have the candidates for governor represent their respective parties, but this proves to be impossible. We would as a politician as possible
Ralph E. Smith, for committee representing Y, M. C. A., W. Y. C. A., Sociology Club, Political Science Club and Woman's Forum
Architects Give Smoker
Scarabs Entertain Students of Department
G. E. McIntyre, architectural engineer, connected with the office of Charles A. Smith of Kansas City, Mo. was the principal speaker. The subject of his talk was "The Relic Architecture and Architectural Engineer to Architecture."
The annual smoker given by Scrub, architectural fraternity, was held Thursday night, Oct. 9, at the Eagles ball. The smoker was open to all students enrolled in the department of architecture.
Prof. Joseph M. Kellogg, of the department of architecture, also spoke on his trip abroad this summer during which he visited England and Italy.
R. R. Hibbs, ex 22, R. B. Bloomgarten, ex 23, and J. B. Elbridge, ex 23, were among the former members who returned for the smoke.
Thanks to Radio, more people are willing to listen.
Dean Swarthout Announces First Choral Meeting
No Entrance Examination Says Chorus Director, but Ability Required
The first meeting of the Lawrence central union will be held Tuesday, night, Oct. 14, a 7:30 p.m. in the Liberty Memorial high school building, according to an unnamed D. M. Swarthout, director of the union.
The purpose of this meeting is to recognize the union from last year and to make plans for the coming year, which includes presentation of Handel's "The Messiah" according to the director.
There will be no entrance examinations, but the following requirements are satisfied. It is expected of each one who intends to join the eminence that he has a fairly good amateur voice and a good sense to carry reasonably well given pay.
No Cost to Members
Loyalty to the organization and the attendance of each rehearsal will be taken into consideration. There is no cost to any member except the
a meeting Tuesday night will be taken up primarily with the plan for the actual organization of the "Kosvian" business men and the business men of Lawrence an enrollment cards will be passed out for signatures. If time permits several parts of the "Kosvian" will be obtained for $1,000 each.
Large Number Expected
Last year the Lawrence Choral Union presented the famous oratorin, Handels "Messiah," having a membership of about four hundred voices, compiled for this season. Swartout, this year expects a large number of the faculty and of the student body.
In addition to the "Messiah," which Yerdi's "Mazoni Requiem" will be presented, Copies for this will be obtainable in about two weeks.
Distinguished Men to Address Kansas City Meeting
Doctors Hold Conference
The annual fall meeting of the Kansas City Clinical conference is being held at Convention hall, Kansas City, today and will last until Oct. 16, according to Dr. Harry K. Dean dean of the School of Medicine.
"A number of distinguished speakers will be present," said Dr. Wahl. "and it will be worth the time of anyone who attends."
Among those who will speak are Herbert Hoover, Secretary of Commerce; George Edgar Vincent, president of the Rockefeller Foundation; Merritt W. Ireland, surgeon-general United States Army; Willis C. Campbell, professor of orthopedic surgery, University of Tennessee; Gordon D. New, surgeon-general of Minnesota; F. L. Adair, professor of obstetrics University of Minnesota; William O'Neill Sherman, surgeon, St. Francis Hospital, Pittsburgh; Oliver H. P. Pepper, professor of medicine University of Pennsylvania; F. N. G. Star, surgeon surgeon, Toronto General Hospital; Walter C Alvarez, professor of research medicine, University of California; Guy LeRoy Hummee, professor of medicine Hopkins Hills Medical School; Elliott P. Joslin, clinical Harvard Medical School; Oliver S. Ormsby, professor of dermatology, University of Chicago Richard M. Smith, physician at Children's Hospital, Boston.
"Throughout the civilized world today," says the Echo de Paris, summing up Parliament opinion of the beloved writer, "all those who love the world and who appreciate royalty of the spirit are in mourning."
Paris, France, Oct. 13—Antoile France is dead and all Paris today mourned his passing.
(United Press)
Anatole France, Noted French Author, Is Dead
The author of Thuis, and Le Jeong, eler de Notre Dame passed away at Tours, Sunday, after a long illness. He was 89 years old and had lived a long, full life, rich in literary activity.
Wire Flashes
United Press
London, Oct. 13.-Passengers on the Camden line Aquatina, bound for South Hampton, are sleeping on a hotel at Waterloo. A possible chance of seeing the ZIR-3.
Tokyo, Oct. 13: -- Major Zamri, an
continent aviator in a round-the-world
light, has been decorated with the
earth order of the Rising Sun and
he sixth order of the Sacred Treer-
ey by the Japanese government.
Evanson, H., Oct. 12. - The priniciple of the cross word puzzle is a regular part of the curriculum at Northwestern University. Elmer E Jones, director of schools department of education, decided today.
Constantinople, Oct. 13. — The president of the Persian republic is on his way to Angora where he has called an urgent special assistance of the National Assembly as a result of the grave situation of affairs in Mount
"We find it valuable in the department of psychology and in testing student." Use a Professor Jones said, "We make up the text by the giving us questionnaires from which to select the correct word to fill in a blank in a given sentence.
"No feat of so much importance
educationally speaking has ever been
adopt" , he declared.
Won. Elish.
Sherbon and Lindley to Speak at Meeting of Health Association
Annual Conference of Child Welfare Workers to Be
Wire Flash
Oct. 14-16
Several members of the faculty of the University will take part in the second annual meeting of the American Child Health Association, which will be: held in Kansas City, Oct. 14, 15, and 16.
channel 2. E. H. Lindley will pre-
side over the general public meeting,
Wednesday evening, when Sally Lacey
Joan, a pioneer in child health educa-
tion, will speak.
Dr. Florence Brown Sherbon, director of the bureau of child research, will discuss "Rural Work of this Organization," on Tuesday day after conference.
Herbert Hoover, secretary of Commerce, and president of this association will preside over the meeting Tuesday evening, when Dr. George E Vincent, president of the Rockefeller Foundation will speak.
Dr. George Clark Mohler, professor of obetries, and head of that department at the Kannan School of Medicine, gave Thursday on "Wateries Work."
This association has more several pieces of child health work throughout the middle west within the past year. Tonka was a leader of the western state and had a population of 86 cities of 40,000 to 70,000 population. Dr. S. J. Crumbine, former state health officer of Kansas, now director of public health relatons of the association, will outline the findings of the survey of 86 cities.
These meetings which are open to the general public, will be held at the Grand Avenue Temple. Several meetings will be held in conjunction with the Church of Christian confession which is meeting in Kansas City this week.
Mrs. Ruth Garver Killed
Mrs. Ruth Garner, a member of the Garver Flyercircus af Attica, Kan., which gave a performance for the American Legion here last spring, was killed Sunday Oct. 12, at Wichita, when the parachute he kept from a plane crashed National Air Congress to open.
Ten Thousand See Fatal Leap at Wichita Air Meet
More than 10,000 persons witnessed the death of Mrs. Garrer. The parachute was cut from the plane when it was in flight. Mrs. Garrer was using for the first time a parachute which was not her own. In her stunting in the past her husband, K. R. Garrer, had always piloted the plane from which he had taken off from Paris on Sunday because he was participating in other races at the time.
Mrs. Gervare's home was at Attica, Kan. She is survived by her husband and son, about 10 years old, who saw his mothers death.
Dirigible Speeds West to Future Home in America
cadio Communications With Zeppelin Help to Insure Safe Atlantic
voyage
Voyage
Berlin, Oct. 13. Speeding rapidly 1600 miles from her starting point at Friedrichhafer, the giant zippelin ZI-3 reached the Antores Ulm afternoon and passed high over head above the little group of I fists, steadily pursuing her westward corner toward America.
Reporter reached Erin Johnson that the dribbling, make good time had arrived at the Acrees at approximately 2 p. m., and continued on her
Message Relayed
The zeppelin cruise takes her on another 1600 mile leg to Bermuda, where she runs northward to Laketwater N. J., Spanish tautiesRelies mates reporting the safe progress to the airship.
At 3:30 p.m. m, Berlin time, the government communication station h is announced the Catham, Maus, wireless station was in touch with the ZR-3.
Direct communication with the zeppelin, which was lost for some time after its explosion, in 1945. Conditions, was resumed after 3 a.m. Berlin time and the airship reported herself as having reached the Aeson group shortly before room. Green
"Weible" Scnós Greetings
"All well on board," was the message picked up by the Friedrich-bafen wireless station. The latest one send to the kappelin was a member r of the crew from the "shewe" is a German dialect cord for wife.
The flight of the Friederichshofen to the Axores required 319 hours, or about 420 miles. The zeppelin at one time was driving along at a speed of 190 miles an hour.
The dirigible now is following the course taken by Christopher Columbus a little more than 432 years ago.
Crew of 20 Carried
On its flight to turrender to the United States, the Sapphirelin in carrying 30 officers and men, Dr. Eckner, in charge, hopes to demonstrate by the voyage the practical ability of airship for passenger service—and thus obtain some revision of the Vulcanian treaty which forbids ships to build those cities of the sky. There are four American airships.
Admiral Eberle, chief of operations,
everyday ordered the Milwaukee, now stationed
250 mi's east of Halifax, Nova Scotia,
to move to a point 500 miles further south to improve better radio contact with the airship.
Washington, Oct. 13 — Weather conditions in the path of the ZK-3 are becoming unsettled and a storm may hold up her progress, observers in the cruisers, ship Detroit, Milwaukee, and the supply ship Tatoka, reported to the Navy department today. Navy department officials said that if the weather is favorable, they arrive at Lakeshore, before Wednesday night or Thursday morning.
Lawrence Near Top Rank Supreme Court to Decide Issue in Fall Session
Lawrence is expected to become a first-class city as a result of action taken by the supreme court in the case of compulsory city officials to take action.
The supreme court early in the summer granted Judge C. A. Smart's motion for the appointment of a commissioner to impure into the tablature system, which Lawrence a population of more than fifteen thousand.
Judge Smart and County Attorney A. B. Mitchell, as the opposing attorneys in the case, have argued that the court should hold for the Styles, of Anderson county, as commissioner would be satisfactory to them. The supreme court has not acted upon the notice of their agreement, the commissioner has not been appointed.
According to officials, as yet there is no indication as to when further action in the Law has begun. The court's supreme court is just now starting its full session of work
A freedman efficiency expert opines that Henry Ford should be elected president because they are the most important jargue at the White House.
Crowder Places Sixth
Crowder Places Sixth in Open Golf Tourney
Waldo Crowder, B. S., 24, captain of the golf team last year won sixhip place in the Mid-Cinti-ten open golf tournament, held over the golf course of the Wichita Country Club, Oct. 10 and 11. Crowder is now golf instructor at the Leavenworth Country Club, and is Kansas state golf champion. Other score leader is 292. The former Crankshank, of New Jersey, former intercollegiate golf champion, won the tournament with a score of 274.
Among the entries were some of the world's greatest golfers, both amateur and professional. In taking place at the 1972 Masters, Dick Eckman, Jr. of Chicago, former United States open champion and five times amateur champion; Jock Hutchinson of Chicago, former British open champion; Jack Snead of Chicago, former American open champion; and other prominent golfers.
several other prominent golfers.
Kansas Association of Registrars Met Here Last Saturday
Ralph Price, K. S. A. C., Elected President; Twenty-One in Attendance
The second annual meeting of the Kannas Association of Registrars and advanced credit committee was held at the University, Saturday, Oct. 11. The program which began at 9 n. m. was followed by a luncheon at the University Commons. In the afternoon the visitors were guests of the Athletic Association at the Ames-Kannas game.
Those registered as attending were: F. A. Noff, Fairmount College, Wichita; J. F. Wellemeyer and Mrs. Wellemeyer, Junior College, Kansas City; Roy A. Dillon, Junior College, Kansas City; W. F. Ascendor, Junior College, Kansas City; W. F. Ascendor, Junior College, Kansas City University; AlphR. Price, Kansas State Agriculture College; Homer S. Meyers, Southwestern College, Winfield; Earl Walker, Garden City Junior College; C. O. Van Dyke, Kansas City University; A. A. Grooming, Tabor College; J. B. Mitchell, Kansas College; J. W. Shields, FT. Scott Junior College; S. Schuitz, St. Benford's College, Atchison; S. A. Deel, Baker University, Baldwin; S. L. Sower, Kansas City University; W. D. Rosa, Kansas State Teacher's College, Emporia; R. H. Williams, Kansas Wesleyan University; W. D. Rosa, Washington college, TOPakJ; A. Blair, McPherson college; Rev J. A. Herbers, St. Mary's college.
Officers elected for next year are president, Raldb. P.R.ice; Kansas State Agricultural College; college secretary, F.A. Neff, Fairmount college, a member of executive committee, I. d. Whitmanes Wash-turn college.
Those in attendance from the University of Kansas were; U. G. Mitchel, Nora Siler, J. G. Brendan, Paul B. Lawen, C. J. Posey, E. B. Stafer, George O. Foster, and E. F. Engle.
Last Year's Jayhawker Gets Honorable Mentior
Announcement has been received from the Art Craft Guild of Chicago that the 1924 Jayhawkwere one of the ten books receiving honorable mention in the 1921 Art Craft Guild National contest for yearlong all universities and colleges having an enrollment of over two thousand.
The letter stated, "Competition was very keen as there were several hundred entries in the contest, you are certainly to be congratulated upon producing such an interesting publication."
Jerry Stugard Recovering
In a report from the University hospital this morning the condition of Jerry Stugard is given as much better. He is getting along very well.
Mr Stugard was badly injured last Friday afternoon when an elevator in which he was riding in Wutton hall fell three stories.
Every member of the Glee Club is requested to be present at Squire's studio, Tuesday at 12:50 for the club picture. This picture will be used for advertising purposes, and fall attendance is requested by Professor Larrumeau. Every member will appear with the regular costume, namec; tuxedo, dress alerta, txuharx collars, black studs, and black bow ties. Promptness is desired.
Valley Glee Clubs to Stage Contest for Silver Trophy
Competition Will Be Held in
K. C., Mo.; Eight Colleges
From Mid-West to
Take Part
EIGHT Missouri Valley Conference
clubs, comprising more than
two hundred men, will compete Satr-
day night, Feb. 14, 1925, in Kansas
City, Mo., in the first annual
contest held by the Missouri Valleu
lee Club Content Association. Exe-
sive members of the association
the net meet in an all day session
Saturday at the University
Club.
Each club will sing three songs. The first will be the individual choice song, to be selected by the director of each club. The second will be the prize song, "Come Again Street Song," a famous English composer of the seventeenth century. The third will be the school song of the various competing valley schools, "The Soldier's Cora," from Tannahill, will be sung in ensemble by the combined school chorus, M. Swarthout, dean of the School of Flute Arts at the University of Kansas.
Will Have Special Numbers
Several special numbers will be given, among which will be a speciality by the Washington University Mandolin and Barjo Club of St. Louis, Mo. This organization is recognized as one of the best of its kind in the Missouri Valley.
Only under-graduate students of the competing schools will be permitted to participate in the contest. Maximum membership of the clubs has been limited to thirty men and three women. Competition will wear their school colors in the form of ribbons across the front of their dress shirts.
Larremore Elected President
Professor T. A. Larrmore, director of the K. U. club, was elected president of the association. Prof. Ira Pratt, head of the department of music of the Kansas State Agricultural College was elected secretary. Dr. Ann Kearns, dean of School of Fine Arts, University of treasurer.
Efforts are now being made to secure Convention hall for the first appearance, but nothing definite has been arranged.
Drake University of Des Moines was not represented Saturday at the first meeting, but the Drake Gale Club will compete. A large alter bearing cup will be awarded to the winning club. To retain the trophy permanently, it must be won three times. Funds for purchasing the cup will be raised by the respective association of the competing schools.
A meeting of the business committee will be hold sometime this week, and plans completed for the day, and other accidental area; events.
Prof. Hungerford Back Entomologists Place K. U. Man in Southern District
Dr. H. B. Hungerford, state ecologist and head of the entomology department here, returned Thursday from attending meetings of the state entomological commission in the Arkansas valley including sessions at Arkansas City, Belle Plain, and Wichita.
The commission held these meetings, particularly in an effort to aid the fruit growers in that region in the fight against pests, according to Doctor Hungerford.
Mr. Edwin Breakey, A.B., 24 K, has been stationed at Ft. Scott in the service of the state entomological commission, has now been assigned to spend most of his time in the Arkansas Department of Public Health. Doctor Hungerford, will be particularly to attend to the eradication of the dread San Jose scale.
The infection of an orchard near Wichita by the European Elm scale which was discovered there by Doctor Hungerford a year ago has been fairly well eradicated due to the application of methods as described in the report of the commission inspected this orchard during the session at Wichita this week.
Special railroad rates have been granted for those who wish to attend. Advance information indicates that at least 2000 doctors will be there.