UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN
NUMBER 83
VOLUME XVI.
Interviews of Faculty On Student Problems Show Varied Opinions
When Interviewed the Faculty Freely Expresses Opinion Concerning Movement
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS THURSDAY AFTERNOON, FEBRUARY 20, 1919.
Favor Student Activity
Co-operation Between Student Body and Senate Expresses Faculty Opinion
"But there is this to be said. In running a big machine, there has to be some permanent organization to steady affairs. Big engines don't run themselves. To keep them running smoothly, there is need of supervision. And there is also the danger of running too tightly as well as running too loosely. When a machine is run too tightly, the parts of the machine are going to fly to pieces, and that is exactly what has happened now and why the students have put out the red flag of danger.
"I have always been very much interested in student activities, now as well as in years gone by when I was in college myself," said Prof. A. J. Boynton, chairman of the department of economics, "and let me go on record as saying, 'If ever I lose the memory of the student's point of view, will some kind student, some friend, come and lead me off."
Faculty opinion apparently approves the student movement for broader student governing powers, according to interviews with various faculty members deeply interested in student affairs. Asked an expression on the student mass meeting Wednesday that protested against the activities and attitude of the University Senate as usurping student governing rights and as being lacking largely in comprehensive team work, most of these members said they favored wider activity among students in governing themselves. Among the interviews were the following:
"But I am here to say that students are the most reasonable people I have ever met, and you don't have to trample on them to make them behave."
Prof. M. C Elmer expressed his opinion on student protest meeting Wednesday by saying:
"I am glad to see the school rise up and show its old spirit. It does not make any difference to me how late or how often students dance. I believe it is the student's own business in regard to the regulation of his dancing. Of course, too, much dancing during the week might hinder the grades of the student, but that is up to him."
George O. Foster, registrar, said
Professor Elmer said he did not agree wholly with all the Senate advocated, but he did agree that the Senate should eliminate the student graft that has been in evidence on the Hill.
George O. Foster, registrar, said; "I believe the Senate always has been as fair as possible. It now has a student interest committee, the purpose of which is to hear the demands of the Senate on how to prepare before the Senate. As the Senate is provided for by the constitution of the University it would be necessary to change the constitution to get the change the students desire."
"I have always been in favor of self government by the students," said Dr. F. J. Kelly, dean of the School of Education. "I believe the position of the Senate should be one of advisory powers with regard to student affairs. The Senate should educate the student and not try to control the affairs itself and dictate to the students what they shall do."
"I am in favor of the plan that will secure the best co-operation and good feeling between the faculty and students," and Dean Olin Templin, dean of the college.
Prof. Louis E. Sisson, secretary of the Senate, said;
"I should favor a combined committee of student and faculty members who would make recommendations to the University authorities. I believe this would be the most successful plan."
"I am in favor of a committee made up of members of the faculty and members of the two student councils for the purpose of discussing student affairs," said Dr. Alberta Corbin, ad-
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Engineers Attack Laws In Snow Ball Battle
After chasing a group of law students into Green Hall this morning, civil, electrical, and mechanical engineers challenged the laws to a snow ball fight on the Campus Martius in front of Fraser Hall. The challenge was sent to Green Hall at noon. The laws professed a willingness for battle, providing the opportunity to the fray and not try to overwhelm the Blackstons by sheer preponderance in numbers.
In the snow ball battle this morning a group of engineers on their way to a class in Blake Hall found the inevitable law bunch on Uncle Jimmy's front step, loafing on the premises, it is alleged. The engineers promptly seized the advantage and the team was vacated singularly and collectively. The first reply of the laws to the engineers' charge recited that the engineers were using high school tactics, and playing kid school games.
The laws, who have been leading the fight for student control of student enterprises, also answered that they were asking for their rights from the Senate and did not care to engage in a free-for-all that might go against them in the bigger things they were asking for.
During the snow ball fight, one of the Laws apparently lost his tempeer and engaged two or three of the Engineers in a little "listic combat." it is said no one was much worse off physically.
Debates Open to All Speakers
Students are invited to attend and take part in the debate to be held tonight at 7:30 o'clock in the lecture room of Marvin Hall by the Civil Engineers' society. The question to be addressed is whether the University of Kansas should adopt the R. O. T. C. under the Conditions Imposed by the War Department."
A tractor show of two weeks duration has been opened in the University of Ohio. This is the second annual Ohio Farms' Tractor Servicer School and is entirely under the supervision of the university this year.
Legislators Conferring On K.U. Appropriations With Chancellor Today
Investigate All Departments and Promise What University Needs
A committee of Ways and Means Committee of the State Legislature is visiting the University campus today, in conference with Chancellor Frank Strong, in regard to the biennial application to the University by the State.
Investigation will be made in all departments and the appropriation will be made in each department.
"We find everything very pleasing," said one member of the committee. "We will see that you get everything you need, you may have asked questions, but then, there is a chance that you haven't asked for enough."
The men making up the committee are J. S. Norman, C. H. Sargent, S. F. Paul, D. E. Lamb, E. L. Barrier, and W. R. Robbins.
Ruth Miller, c22, and Walter Blucker, c22, were elected into the Dramatic Club at the try-out Wednesday night to play "Breaking the Engagement."
Dramatic Club Elects Two Members at Try-Outs
A meeting of the club was held after the try-outs, and Carl Brown was elected vice-president for the remainder of the year. Brown has just returned from the army, but was known as circatic circles while here last year.
Phi Lamba Sigma will have a inreside meeting, Saturday, February 12, at four o'clock a the home of drs. J. H. Mitchell, 603 Tennessee street. All Presbyterian girls and their friends are invited to come.
Announcements
Woman's Glee Club will hold its regular practice from 7 to 8:45 *clock*. Thursday night in Fraser hapel.
Missouri Five Defeats University of Kansas In First Game, 34-20
Fast Floor Work of Tigers and Good Shooting of Ruby Feature Game
Kansas Lacks Team Work
Second Game of Trip Will Be Played at Columbia Thursday Night
Missouri won the first game of the series at Columbia last night from the Kansas Jayhawkers by a score of 14 to 20. This makes the third successive victory of the Tigers over Columbia Hamilton's five. Although Kan scored first on a free throw by Bennett and held the lead part of the first half, the Tigers soon recovered the stride and easily won the game. The score at the end of the first half was 16 to 13.
Fast floor work by the Missouri quintet and excellent goal shooting on the part of Captain Craig Ruby increased the Tiger lead in the early part of the second half. Ruby scored a total of seven field goals and Vogt at center contributed three goals to the total. Scott, forward, was off form in free throwing and tossed only four goals in nine chances.
For Kansas, Bunn scored twice from the field and Captain Matthews added two field goals and three free throws. Bennett played right forward in place of Miller and contributed one field goal and seven free throws.
The_score:
Missouri g. f.t. f.
Scott, R. F. 2 4 2
Ruby, L. F. 7 0 6
Vogt, C. 3 0 4
Coffey, C. 0 0 2
Lewis, R. G. 0 0 0
Schroeder, R. G. 2 0
Browning, L. G. 1 0
Totals...15 4 16
Kansas g. f.t. t.
Bunn, R. F...2 0 2
Bennett, L. F...1 7 5
Matthews, C...2 3 2
Mason, R. G...0 0 0
Lonborg, L. G...0 0 0
Totals 5 10
Referee—Forrest Allen, Warrens busi
5 10
Directory Now on Sale
At Fraser Check Stand
Student Council, Faculty, Fraternities, Sororities and Students Included in Book
The new student directory is on sale at Fraser check stand at 25 cents per copy. The contents of the directory is arranged as follows: List of Student Council officers, deans of schools and faculty members, fraternities, societies, other organizations, and lusty of 1800 who voluntarily registered.
Marvin Harms who is in charge of its publication said, "If the Men's Student Council has charge of the publication of the student directory next year, it will be as complete as those published in '15 and '16, and it will contain in addition Senate and W.S. G., rulings.
Lieut. Normile returned yesterday from a motor trip to Leavenworth whither he and five of his men had taken the three trucks as they are no longer needed here. Lieutenant Normile advises no one to take this trip until the roads clear up, for near Tonganoxie one of the trucks got stuck in the mud and it was only after many hours of hard labor that the dauntless quartermaster and his assistants rescued the stranded car.
"We had a lovely ride considering the speed, which averaged about three miles an hour, for the trip," said Lieutenant Normile.
Army Trucks are Taken To Post at Leavenworth
Annual Follies Given
By W.S.G.A. This Year
The annual Follies will be given by the Woman's Student Government Association. Mabel McNaughton is director of the spring show, assisted by members of the Woman's Student Council. Try-outs were held this afternoon in the gymnasium for members of the chorus. The date will be announced later.
Van and His Coon Dog Miss a Possum Dinner
Two fat possums were sent to the department of zoology three weeks ago for the use of experiment. The two animals escaped and for some time Daddy Van and his coon dogs have tried in vain to catch them.
This morning Daddy Van entered the journalism room and in a disgruntled tone said, "All honors have got to go to those new plumbers who have been working in the basement of Snow Hall for catching that possum, me and my coon dog have been trying to get for three weeks."
"We didn't get him, but we're goin' to bet his better half. We are on the 'unt right now for him."
"Prof. W. J. Baumgartner had a uneral and pickled the other one o those zoologists could experiment on im and here me and my coon dog didn't get any possum dinner at all," added.
Engineers Criticize the Student Mass Meeting
Say Some Laws Had Program Prearranged for Political
Reasons
At a mass meeting of the students of the School of Engineering this morning, it seemed to be aparent that they as a body criticised the School of Engineering Law were back of the student mass meeting for political reasons.
"The mode of procedure in evidence at yesterday's meeting was not such as to bring out representative opinion," reads a part of the petition passed by the Laws. "But was designed apparently to, put over a certain pre-arranged plan. While the results of this particular meeting apparently met the approval of all in it, that characterization was that which characterizes ward politics, the entire program being of a cut and dried nature, and having evidence of having been arranged in a corner beforehand."
Sachems Offer Plan For Student Members On Senate Committee
Asks for Six Senate and Six Student Members—Four Men and Two Women
A reorganization of the student interest committee which provides for student representation through student membership in the committee and to strengthen the Dachem Society at its meeting held Wednesday night. The resolution reads:
"Be Ie Resolved, "That the Schem Society is in favor of a plan for a joint Student Interest Committee composed of six Senate members chosen by the Senate, and six students; four men students to be from the Men's Student Council and two from the Women's Student Council and another society. This committee to have final authority on all matters pertaining to student interests.
The representatives from the Men's Student Council to be those who poll the highest vote in their respective schools; two from the college, one from the School of Engineering and one from the School of Law."
"It is the plan of the society," said a Sachem, "not to force the details of the plan, but the general idea itself."
Various plans were considered at the meeting, and this one was decided.
Nothing New in Wet Snow
Says Weatherman Kester
"This wet snow is not unusual for February or March," said Prof. F. E. Kester, the weather man at Blake Hall, Thursday morning.
"Snows as a rule come during a dry season, but there is nothing different or mysterious about this little snow. It is not any wetter than the snow of last week. I know, because I had to shovel walks."
Delta Theta Phi Holds Smoker
Delta Theta Phi, law fraternity,
hold their annual smoker Wednesday
night at the Knights of Pythia
Hall. R. E. Melvin and Oscar Leau-
ard, honorary members of the fraternity,
gave short talks.
Indignant Students Demand Voice In Social Government
Plain Tales From the Hill
THE DAM-P, DAM-P SNOW
"Snow, snow, go away.
Come again some other day,
My new pumps you put to rout.
My old shoes are all worn out.
Must I wear the leaky things?
Snow, oh, snow, take up you wings."
The Phi Delt Mess may or may not be a success Friday night but Fred McEwen says that its a sure thing that they are having a grand mess down at 1409 Tennessee now, trying to live in a house that had the roof burned to nothing so that this beautiful snow that all the aesthetics are raving on can come in without any opposition at all.
The report that all the time the house was burning yesterday, the Grafamola played "Its a Hot Time In The Old Town tonight," makes a very easy claim. He means that today they put on the record "Button Up Your Collar, Mary Ann."
Did you notice the pretty snow man just east of the Journalism Building? It is a perfect likeness of one of the professors on this hill. We would suggest that if the snow lasts longer that a prize be offered for the best snow man, and that all Fine Arts students be compelled to enter. When students are building snow figures, they must be careful, chief, and it is very necessary at this time to find some winter sport for our 'ittle cut-ups.'
NEW WINTER SPORTS FOR K. U.1TES
Freshman: I see in the paper that Miss Albert Corbin, adviser of women is to speak on "Student Government" at the dean's meeting.
Senior: Isn't that a shame that they should give her a subject like that to do talk on? Now if she had a subject like "Senate Government" she might be able to make a good speech from her experience.
NEW REMEDY FOR SNORING
REMEMBER FOR SNOKING
Jeff Green says that he will give a liberal reward to anyone who will teach him to drive and agreeable method to keep from screaming. Jeff says that as far as he is expected, he would just as soon keep on snoring, but that his dear brothers do not seem to appreciate the melodious tones, and they have taken the underhand method of slipping quinine capsules in his mouth every time he opens it after eleven o'clock at night.
Talk about waking up with a bad taste in your mouth! And Jeff says that he doesn't even have pleasant memories to make up for it.
Dr. W. L. Burdick, vice-chancellor of the University, went to Wichit, to dedicate the Masonic Orphan' Home. He will return Friday.
Disciplinary Powers Alone Were Turned to Senate by Student Council
Petition for Convocations
Regular Hour Each Week in Morning is Desired to Serve All Students
As the climax of the revolutionary spirit against the University Senate which apparently has been growing among the students, resolutions were unanimously adopted at the so-called "indignation" meeting in Fraser Hall Wednesday, announcing the opposition of the student body against entire control of student affairs by the Senate. The resolution demanded the right of the students to have a voice in their own government.
In addition, a resolution for University convocations was also unanimously adopted. Fraser Hall Chapel was packed with opponents of the present system of control and the culture of women was unusually 'arge'.
SENATE RULED BY MINORITY
The attitude of practically every student speaker was belligerant, as many expected as a result of the hanging and burning of the Senate in effigy, Wednesday, in front of Grsen Hall. Most of the speakers said that a majority of the Senate must be suppressed to control, but they allowed themselves to be overruled by a minority that considered students irresponsible.
"This meeting has been called by students who believe the University Senate is usurping student rights," said George Strong, who acted as chairman. "The question we must decide is whether we want student government with its responsibility. If we do, we must quit being boys and girls. We must become men and women. Although a majority of the Senate believes in student control those members are controlled by a Prussian type. That group believes long will they be making us go to bed at 10 c'clock and wear a certain uniform on the Hill. They will regulate our parties, and we will have a powerful Prussian autocracy."
SCHOOL ENTHUSIASM REVIVES
HUNKS, MAYES
Lieut. "Hank" Shinn, 119, was the first speaker.
"After returning from 2-years' absence," said Shim, "my first impression was that student spirit was absolutely dead. Now I see I was wrong. This is the greatest outburst of the Senate." I remember the Senate is attempting to reach the same result as the students and we must play our part
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Following is the official statement of the purpose of the students' "indignation meeting," and the text of the resolutions adopted unanimously by the mass meeting:
THE WORK OF THE MASS MEETING
PURPOSE
To secure the Student Opinion in regard to self government at the University of Kansas.
BY WHOM CALLED
A body of students realizing that the University Senate is constantly becoming more dictatorial and that the ideals of self government in America are disregarded in this Institution—this body has taken the initiative and called this meeting.
RESOLUTION
BE IT RESOLVED: That the Student Body of the University of Kansas do hereby announce their opposition to 'entire control of student affairs by the University Senate.
We are citizens of a democracy whose ideal is government by public opinion. We are citizens of a state which is taxing its citizens to provide for a University which will educate its people in democratic ideals.
If we are not capable of self government, then we are unfit to be citizens of this state, and this Institution is violating the purpose for which it was founded in not allowing us this right.
The success of democratic government depends upon education, but not of the kind which Germany fostered and which the Senate of Kansas University seems to desire.
BE IT FUNFIT RESOLVE: That the students demand to have the same rights to select those who govern them that our fathers have; that the students be given a voice in their own government; that Kansas University foster and encourage democratic ideals.
THEREFORE: We, the student body of the University of Kansas do hereby place ourselves on record as being in perfect accordance with this resolution and demand that our wishes be respected, with the understanding that if our wishes be disregarded, as has been customary in the past.