UNIVERSITY DAILY KANSAN
VOLUME XVI.
Future of S. A. T. C.
Put Up to University
By Washington Inquiry
War Department May Discontinue Courses at End of First Quarter
Two Questions Are Asked
"How Many Will Have to Leave College if S.A.T.C. Stops," Asks Committee
Does the University wish to have the Students' Army Training Corps continued after December 21 with a limited amount of military training?
How many members of the S. A. T.
C would be compelled to leave college
if the government support feature
were withdrawn?
There are questions that will have to be answered within the next twenty-four hours by the University, in response to a letter received this morning by Chancellor Strong from the Committee on Education and St. Vincent which has the task of T. C. training which has the task of taking vices of S. A. T. C. colleges in order to determine its future policy. The questions asked are:
(1) Assuming an equitable financial arrangement in case your contract is discontinued at the end of the first quarter, and assuming that if continued, regulation academic work by the War Department will be abandoned and military work reduced to nine hours weekly, do you wish to have your college unit, exclusive of medical students, continue to June 20, 1910?
(2) If contract is discontinued at end of first quarter and men discharged, what number of S.A.T.C. men (collegiate section, exclusive of medical students) would leave college?
Dean F. J, Kelly, director of the academic side of the S. A, T. C, at the University, and his assistants, Dean D. L., Patterson and George Shaun met this afternoon to decide on a procedure of determining the attitude here. Final decision will probably be made by the University Senate, after men of section B have been questioned as to whether or not their remaining in the University depends upon their remaining on the army payroll.
"The proposition comes to us demanding a 'yes' or 'no' answer," said Dean Kelly this afternoon. "I should very much have preferred to have had the question stated so that those men who wished might be charged, and those who wished to continue the S. A. T. C. training might have done so. We have suggested such a course to the committee at Washington, and know they have considered it, but the question is not put that way. The question that a comanyally takes 18 years old, came to college under the practical assurance they would be given college training for the three quarters. Of course, the signing of the armistice has changed conditions radically. However, if it could be that these men could be given the collegiate training they had expected, I should be glad to have它 done.
"Our committee will discuss what procedure to follow, and it is likely we shall assemble Section A at 7 o'clock tonight to and out with the Senate. We will then ask them the chancellor to have a meeting of the Senate later to make final decision.
NUMBER 26.
"This decision, of course, will be simply the view of the University. What actually will be done depends upon action of the War Department."
Y.W. Frolic Followed Big S.A.T.C. Rally
The big rally was not the only thing that happened in Robinson Gymnasium Friday. When the army and navy poured out of the gym, the women of the Universities were waiting on the steps to get inside for the Freshman Frolic. It was an all-girl party, and everyone liked it.
The women from 1131 Louisiana street put on a military stunt, Laura Jackman gave several music numbers, Charlotta Carnie and Eloise McNutt gave a miniatre show, Tulley Louise Shepherd read two books, she was then Professor Arthur Navin led the crowd in some rousing singing.
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS, MONDAY AFTERNOON, NOVEMBER 25, 1918.
As a special number on the program some S. A. T. C. men appeared wearing women's coats and hats and went through their regular drill.
Little Theater Premier
Of Year Wednesday Night
K U. Orchestra Will Play at Presentation of "Supressed Desires"
The first of the series of Dramatic Club plays will be given Wednesday night in the Little Theater in Green Hall. The play will be "Suppressed Desires" and according to Prof. Arthur MacMurray, director, it will be one of the best that has ever been given by the club.
"The characters are especially well adapted to the part which they have been assigned," said Professor MacMurray.
The play was given last summer for the men in the first vocational session at the University and was a success. The same cast will be used Wednesday night and will be: Hennita Brewer . Florence Butler Mabel, her sister. ... Marie Ketels Steven Breewer', ... Henry Shinn. The tickets are now on sale at the registrar's office in Fraser Hall, and since the seating capacity of the theater is only about 175, prospective playgoers are urged to get their seats early.
Members of the K. U, orchestra, led by Prof. Frank Kendrick, will give musical specialities before the play. The musical program will start promptly at 7:30 o'clock.
Official Orders
The following men were excused from classes November 22, by military authority:
Allen, C. L.
Bakken, E. D.; Burthy, G. P.; Bordell, G. H.; Bell, J. W.; Bishop, W.; Blackburn, R. S.; Brinean, A. E.; Byrnes, R. O.
Chipman, T. G., Collyer, B. F.
Cavey, A. B.
Kennedy, N. D.; Ellis, G. C.; Krugle
H. E.; Eychtechnum, D. A.
Jones, A. A.
Huckett, W. N.; Harner, C. R;
Harris, L. T; Hockhuli, E. F;
Holmes, J. C; Horney, E. O.
Kennedy, E. F.; Kinzie, C. E.
Knaues, H.; Kneale, C. T.; Kurtz
W. L.
Lavery, J. J.; Leach, F. G.; Liggett, W. F.; Luke, J. H.; Clynn, C. W.
M-Bride, B. B.; Myers, F. R.; McCort, W. L.; Meeland, C. H; Millian, F. D.; Minnehan, J. R.
Moore, B.; Myers, R. M.
Neely, W. H.
Oftenbacher, A. W.; Ogden, A. C.
Dogart, H.; Poltera, L. H.
Ransom, P. H.; Redding, R. H;
Robinson, J. E.
S Schneider, V.; Schwab, J.; Schwartz, H.; Scoville, H. F.; Shanberg, C; Sight, D.; Smith, C. A.; Stevens, V. D.; Sullivan L. M.
"Homecoming Day" Not
To Be Observed This Year
Tilsley, J. H.; Traughber, J. A.
Wahl, O. A; Woody, L. E.
More than one University precedent is being broken this year as a result of the cancellation of the annual Kansas-Missouri game. Home coming day which has long furnished loyal Jayhawk alumni with the opportunity to return to the old school meet old friends, and forget the dignity of their position and years, in bringing on the downfall of the Titans for the first year in so many that records do not disclose the facts. Miss Agnes Thompson of the Alumni office says that perhaps later in the year the senior class will plan some form of entertainment for the alumni.
A dozen or more students of the School of Mines, under the leadership of Prof. C. A. Terrill, will spend the Thanksgiving vacation in the mining districts of Southeastern Kansas. They will leave Lawrence Wednesday afternoon or night, and will return Sundav night.
Mining Students to Visit Kansas Mineral Districts
The party will visit the Pittsburgh coal district, where vast quantities of coal are mined with steam shovels, and will go also to the new lead-zinc district about Baxter Springs, and Joplin, Mo. The party will go as far as Mimi, Okla., and will visit the building stone quarries at Carthage, Mo.
The government has asked the University to vote on whether or not the S. A. T. C. unit here should be discontinued December 21.
The University Should Vote Yes
First, there is the commonplace but absolutely fundamental question of comfort. It is impossible for men to live comfortably in the barracks here in cold weather. Already the heating equipment has proved inadequate.
The Kansar believes the S. A. T. C. should be discontinued,
It it impossible for men to study in barracks, except in spameless efforts that are by no means adequate for a man taking even a smaller part of the usual University man's work. The barracks are entirely unsuitable for study.
The whole S. A. T. C. system, as now applied, is expensive and produces an inferior product, for it does not produce either a 100 per cent military men or a 100 per cent college man, but rather a hybrid.
The system of feeding is unsatisfactory.
It is true that the mule market is up, but there is no parallel in values that warrants the producing of an analogous animal in college.
Besides all this, the educational institutions of the country must get back to normal soon. They must begin again supplying the trained men for industry, commerce, art and science. Soon the need for this sort of man will be greater than the need for soldiers. There is a large enough supply of soldiers right now.
Kansas Aggies Will Fill Thanksgiving Day Date With University
The justification for the expense and disorganization incident to the S. A, T. C, no longer exists.
Game Will be Homecoming
Event of Year-Aviators
Will Make Flight
The Kansas Aggies will fill the open date caused by the cancellation of the annual Missouri-Kansas clash by the M. U, health authorities. The Aggies won but one football game from the Jayhawkers in 15 years and will try to break the long string of losses they have held Kansas to a 0 to 0 and came within striking distance of the Jayhawk-goal several times.
The Aagies defeated the Methodists from Baldwin 22 to 0 and the Baker Willcock held the Kansas to a 49-0 to 6 score. The Aagies have played several games this season and have some old men in the lineup. The Kansas team is in good condition and will go through its final practice Wednesday for the big holiday game Thursday. A scrummage with the Haskell Indians may be arranged. Simons, Kansas half, who injured his knee last week will probably be able to get into the Agie game.
Miss Margaret Wilson, oldest daughter of the President of the United States, has begun a year's singing tour of the army entertainment centers in France and Belgium. She gave her first concert recently at the Y. M. C. A. but in Nancy, France, she arrived for arriving in that city. Ross David, who has been Miss Wilson's vocal instructor, sung with her. Mrs. David plays their occupations upon a small portable organ.
The Aggie game will be the big homecoming game and plans are well under way for the features that K. U. has had in the past for the homecoming. Two aviators from the Kelly Aviation Field have been obtained to make flights at the gridiron Thanksgiving afternoon.
In Service Overseas
The Red Cross is Efficient.
Flu Rumors Fail to Fill Hospital With Patients So "Sunshine" Close
"In the War Work Campaign," said Professor Mitchell this morning, "the women have pledged $2,601.59; the faculty $3,826.15, and the men $8,295.60. One faculty member pledged $100 in Topeka, down town solicitors received pledges amounting to $30 from University students, and there is more to come in. The University will raise its quota I am sure."
The latest report that there are a number of newIndian cases and that the University might be closed again is nothing more than another of the wild rumors that gain cohesion each week on the Hill and have to be systematically denied. The health department, TCU, told us this university in better than it has been at any time this year. Sunshine Hospital was closed today, because there are no longer enough patients to justify keeping it open.
War Fund Total is $14,723.34
Six of the convulsive cost patients from Sunshine Hospital have been moved to Simmons Hospital, and four to the S. A. T. C. infarction at 1238 Mississippi Street. There have been no new cases for several days.
The subscription from S. A. T. C. men, by companies, follows:
University Health Condition
Best This Year, Despite
Wild Tales
Freshmen Women Elect Delegates to W.S.G.A.
Mercedes Sullivan and Tukey Louise Shepherd were elected freshman representatives to the W. S. G. A. by the women of the freshman class Friday. The number of votes received by the four candidates followed: 43; Tukey Louise Shepherd, 42; Frances Philippines, 39; Creta Seely, 42.
Of more than three hundred women in the freshman class, only seventy-eight voted. The polls were located in the entrance to the Museum, and the election was conducted by the present members of the W. S. G. A. board.
Here's something original with a faculty man in the University. When asked by his class if it is proper to say "got," he lifted one eyebrow thoughtfully and replied, "Well, I don't see why not. The Kultured Kaiser said 'Gott.'"
Company Per cent sub. Average Total
A 92 $4.16 $791.05
B 90 4.18 926.00
C 100 4.11 712.50
Navy 95 3.69 909.50
E 76 3.68 719.00
F 100 4.36 641.65
G 86 3.14 440.90
H 69 3.34 729.50
Officers 395.00
Men who left Sec. B 60 3.65 1,402.50
All others 205.50
The Red Cross is Democratic.
Total for men...$8,295.00
Army and Navy Revive Defunct Kansas Spirit
Boxing Matches and Vaudeville Stuff Make Pep Meeting Different
A new brand of pep meeting for K. U, was inaugurated Friday night in the Robinson gymnasium, when the military authorities of the University took charge of the concentration of school spirit and held the most rousing session that has been put on here in years. The women and instructors were practically a minus quantity, so it was left to the combined lungs of the students to demonstrate the fact that the school morale wasn't dead after all.
Robinson gym has seen many a peep meeting, but never before was a boxing ring the center of interest. The ring was on a platform in the center of the building with the seats facing it, and all the features of the program took place there. The cheerleaders, Ry Hempbill, Fred Leach and Harold Hoover, were stationed there throughout the meeting.
"Missouri can't come over this year. They've got the fun. But it's not the Missouri boys that have the fue. It's their coach." That's the way Uncle Jimmy Green explained the cancelling of the game. Dam Green told them he had with Kyle, who gave other reminiscences in his traditional manner.
Music by the band, a mixed army navy quartet, a colored octet, and an orchestra were the musical features of the evening. Between selections were boxing matches and speeches by various of the officers.
A new variation of the "Oh Me" yell was presented to the thunderstorms thousands. Harold Hoyer taking the lead, and a number of others. The Argers are the victims of the
new yell, which runs like this:
Ok me! Ok now!
Plain Tales From the Hill
Won't we black Manhattan's eye?
Won't she weep and won't she row
When we milk that Aggie cow.
"Here, you, turn that gun around," the sergeant said at htm.
The rookie came to present arms with his gun barrel to the front.
Promptly, and with that spontaneous and subconscious obedience which comes only from long practice, the rookie turned his gun around, muzzle down and butt sparately in front of his eyes.
A young woman here from Baker for the football game Saturday re-sented the statement that the Baker boys are ministers' sons and rather sissy. "Why my brother's a minister's son and he is all right—he's just as mean as any boy;" she exclaimed indignantly.
He was a sergeant in Company—
He had only one evening off, and
three girls he wanted to spend it with.
But best of all, he had a bright idea.
Girl Number One answered the telephone. Said the servant: "I'm off for an hour this evening so I'll be up from 7 to 11." To girl Number Two he said: "I'm off for an hour this evening." I'll be the first one (0) Girl Number Three heard something like this: "I'm lucky; I'm off from 9 o'clock until—well, you can chase me away when you get tired of me."
Even Kansas City, where darkness is lighter than daylight, cannot warp the schedule of S. A. T. C. routine, it seems. A K. U. gob on the way home from the city Sunday remarked: "Gee, but I was sleep about 9 o'clock last."
"Not much hope for us," mourned one University woman to another as they walked across the campus one morning night. "Just 'Listen to me.'"
"That" was a group of S. A. T. C. men singing tenderly, "My little girl, you know I love you, though you're many miles away."
This aroused the sympathy of the woman student in charge and hurriedly she did the best job she could. The man thanked her and started to put on the blouse. A loud laugh came from her. She was using the other pressing board.
"Thanks, fellow," the laughing one said, "that's my blouse you just pressed. There's yours on that chair."
"Do you have to press this blouse under a cloth?" asked an S. A. T. C. man in the pressing room in Myers Hall. "In an in awful hurry and want to 'do this as quick as I can."
Navy to Discharge Men Under Certain Conditions Capt. Scher is Ordered
Men Wishing to Quit Training May Make Application For Release
Not to Lose The Navy Unit
Only Students With Good Reasons for Discharges Will Be Freed
Mow in the U. S. naval reserve section may make application for discharge at once, according to instructions just received by Capt. B. T. Scher. Before the release can be given, it will be necessary for the apprehension of the Great Lakes district headquarters, Captain Scher said this morning.
"Because of the amount of clerical work involved it is impossible to say how long a time this will require," Captain Scher added. "The naval section will be retained at the University. At the present time there is no intention of disbanding it. This order has been issued in behalf of a few men who have very valid reasons for requesting release from active duty, because they are investigated carefully and unless a misdetermined or forsuit finds is absolutely impossible to carry on his collegiate work along with military duties, or other equally good excuse, it will be difficult to obtain a discharge.
"Clothing should be here shortly, and men will be provided when they are given a discharge."
"Subject: Request for release from active duty and discharge;
The following is the order received by Captain Scher:
"1. The commandant has been instructed to receive applications for releases from active duty of members of the U. S. naval reserve force and to forward such applications to the bureau of navigation with his recommendations. Those who desire their release in compliance with this order may make their application at once, addressed to the commandant, ninth, tenth and eleventh naval districts, and such applications shall be forwarded through the immediate commanding officer, who shall state whether such applications are approved or disapproved.
2. Applications shall state in detail their reason for wishing releases, such as whether they have dependent relatives, or whether their personal business interests or collegiate courses are affected.
"3. Mon who are enlisted in the U.S. navy for the duration of the war shall make their applications for disbandment, and shall reason in full as herein directed."
"4. Commanding officers, S. A T. C., are requested to notify navy men under their command of the forgego and to forward such applications promptly.
(Signed) W. F. Roberts,
- District Enrolling Officer.
9th, 10th, and 11th Naval Districts
By Direction.
Cedar Chests Given To K.U. Stenographers
Right now every girl wants a cedar chest. Especially if he is over there and she is staying at home with nothing much to do. Usually some member of the family stands good for the cedar chest, but it has been discovered that the University of Kansas furnishes cedar chests to its female employees. This makes positions on the Hill very attractive.
The secretary to the Dean of the School of Medicine wanted some new filing cases, so she ordered them. In these war times (rather, in those war times) it was very hard to get material shipped but finally the filling cabinets arrived. The secretary hastened to inspect them. One proved to be superior. It was superb—waxed to perfection and such a wonderful color! Under closer inspection, the pretty one was found to be a cedar chest!
Faculty to Give Recital
A recital of Belgian and Dutch compositions will be given Tuesday night at 8:15 o'clock in Fraser Hall chapel by faculty members of the School of Fine Arts. A program of the recital will be printed Tuesday.
The Red Cross is Mobile.